Nice post - S&F for you my friend.
I try to get this point across quite a lot to friends and family. The world is not black & white, or pickles and goo as Alan Watts put it. I think his
theology on people really applies well to the Religion vs Science argument.
Alan Watts - Pickles & Goo with animation by Trey Parker and Matt Stone.
In the past science and religion went hand in hand. Now it's either one or the other.
Me, I'm very much a logical thinking scientist in the head. I trust science and I see it's results. However, i'm a spiritualist at heart and can
see that science doesn't always explain the grey. It certainly doesn't explain how I feel about myself, how I analyse myself and how I develop
myself into a better person.
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reply posted on 26-9-2008 @ 06:25 AM by dave420
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Science is the only methodology for human development. It is what got us out of the dark ages and into the present. Religion, while sometimes beneficial, has an inherent propensity to be misused. And unlike science, when religion is misused (either on purpose or quite accidentally), there is no hope to fix it from within, without massive bloodshed (figuratively or literally). Religion demands beliefs be held above all others; to be untouchable. Science is the polar opposite - it demands everyone be skeptical of everything - of results, of methods, of experimenters, of equipment - the lot. It is a self-correcting methodology, designed to remove the fallibility of human kind from our observations of the universe. Religion allows a single person, or a small group of people, to be above external criticism. That is obviously never a good idea.
One day religion will disappear. Abstract 'spirituality', or more correctly 'philosophy' will replace it. It will be debated. Cases will be made for and against different approaches to life, backed by scientific findings, and either encouraged or discouraged accordingly. No more dogma. No more prayers. No more chants. No more incense. No more tithes. No more 'sin'. Each person will be free to make up their own minds, and to think for themselves. They will be able to follow their own ideas, free of the bondage of organised religion. And yes, Christianity is organised religion -unless each person writes their own version of the Bible, it is organised. I don't care if you call yourself Catholic or Evangelical or whether you go to church - if it's not your idea, it's organised.
Science is the only methodology for human development. It is what got us out of the dark ages and into the present. Religion, while sometimes beneficial, has an inherent propensity to be misused. And unlike science, when religion is misused (either on purpose or quite accidentally), there is no hope to fix it from within, without massive bloodshed (figuratively or literally). Religion demands beliefs be held above all others; to be untouchable. Science is the polar opposite - it demands everyone be skeptical of everything - of results, of methods, of experimenters, of equipment - the lot. It is a self-correcting methodology, designed to remove the fallibility of human kind from our observations of the universe. Religion allows a single person, or a small group of people, to be above external criticism. That is obviously never a good idea.
One day religion will disappear. Abstract 'spirituality', or more correctly 'philosophy' will replace it. It will be debated. Cases will be made for and against different approaches to life, backed by scientific findings, and either encouraged or discouraged accordingly. No more dogma. No more prayers. No more chants. No more incense. No more tithes. No more 'sin'. Each person will be free to make up their own minds, and to think for themselves. They will be able to follow their own ideas, free of the bondage of organised religion. And yes, Christianity is organised religion -unless each person writes their own version of the Bible, it is organised. I don't care if you call yourself Catholic or Evangelical or whether you go to church - if it's not your idea, it's organised.
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