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Topic started on 23-9-2008 @ 12:32 AM by davidslaine

There is the truth. You may think you have your "liberties" being taken away, but the truth is, you never had them in the first place.

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reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 12:55 AM by iiinvision

you have to capitalize it when you are referencing the corporation. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is a corporation. The United States of America is the United States of America.

Notice how your name is in all capital letters on your drivers license.

reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 12:57 AM by Frankidealist35

It's a Republic. Yes, it's a very flawed Republic, but, it is not in the sense a corporation in that respect. It does its business and there are shady organizations within the USA but I don't see that our government is merely a corporation. There are people who want to influence it to be one but I wouldn't go that far to say that it is one.

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reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 01:02 AM by davidslaine

Originally posted by Frankidealist35
It's a Republic. Yes, it's a very flawed Republic, but, it is not in the sense a corporation in that respect. It does its business and there are shady organizations within the USA but I don't see that our government is merely a corporation. There are people who want to influence it to be one but I wouldn't go that far to say that it is one.

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I hope you read the thing

reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 01:12 AM by Frankidealist35

reply to post by davidslaine

I still don't think that the USA is a corporation. It looks like a bunch of nonsense. The USA isn't lead by a bunch of war-mongerers. There are people in the government that are for world domination but the majority of them are aware of the risks of attempting to create all these wars. I also believe in the concept of freedom. Even though our freedoms have been trampled on by Bush 1 and 2 I still think that the concept of the USA as the country and a nation-state exists.

reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 01:57 AM by logician magician

The Act of 1871 did not create a corporation called the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

What the Act did was incorporate (establish) the city of D.C. for municipal purposes. It merely created the city and gave it an operational framework..

All cities, towns, and villages are municipal corporations.

When was your city incorporated?

reply posted on 4-10-2008 @ 09:31 PM by Anonymous ATS

I really hope some of you read what you say before you hit the enter key. a corp only has jurisdiction over what it owns or controls. Go and look up 28 usc 3002 (A)(B)(C) get the US code definition of the United States IT IS A CORPORATION, read Dixon v US 1811, judge Marshall called the US a Corp.
The Constitution for the united States was not derived as in "of" it was created for. Also, try looking up some of the Supreme Court Case law on how the Legislature cannot by an "Act" alter the Constitution from which it alone derives it power, it must do it by Amendment (duh!) and by the way look up Hooven v Allison, it does give the 3 different definitions of United States and that was the last time they claimed to answer the question. Also Look up the UCC and in its opening definitions it talks of the law merchants which our founding fathers wanted kept out of this country, yet all states have allowed some form of it.

We the people has been turn to a Corp. the State of Colorado was done in 1968 with the re-write of the State Constitution and passage of CRS 24-1-101.
Where the "Legislature found it necessary to create a form..." The people are theonly ones in Colorado authorized to change their form of Government NOT the Legislature.

reply posted on 4-10-2008 @ 09:38 PM by king9072

Originally posted by Frankidealist35
reply to post by davidslaine

I still don't think that the USA is a corporation. It looks like a bunch of nonsense. The USA isn't lead by a bunch of war-mongerers.

Sorry for the 'one-liner' but... HAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

reply posted on 4-10-2008 @ 09:56 PM by TeslaandLyne

So what have you done for the Corp today?
Conspiracies are run by a bunch of corporate ingrates.
So this explains the corporate takeover by Germany in 1944.

reply posted on 4-10-2008 @ 10:17 PM by Frankidealist35

reply to post by king9072

I take that back. I meant to say that I don't think it's control by a bunch of war-mongers, but that war-mongers constantly lead the nation and constantly end up winning the elections time and time again.

reply posted on 4-10-2008 @ 10:25 PM by LogicalSolution

It's true, America was meant to be run as a corporation.

Just look at our leader - PRESIDENT. What do corporations have? A president. What about vice president? Corporations have them too. Notice that we don't have a "Premier" or "King" or "Prime Minister". We have a "President".

The congress can even be likened to the board of executives of a company, and it functions a very similar way.

What about the different "departments" we have. Companies usually have different "departments".

Look what the president of the USA wears. He wears a business suit. Like the president of a company. He doesn't wear a military uniform, or royal regalia like leaders of non-corporation countries.

Where does our President do business? In his office (the oval office). Just like the president of a corporation. He doesn't do it from the throne room.

Or what about people that work for our President? They are called "secretaries", just like in a corporation. Not servants.

This was never meant to be a communist society, it was meant to be a capitalist one, where anyone can make it big by starting company and having it be successful.

This is why I never understood people who complain about big corporations. Sorry, but it's what America is. There's always the option of moving to a communist, socialist, or facist nation if you don't like living in a capitalist one. It would make you happier, and make us happier.

-LS

reply posted on 4-10-2008 @ 11:01 PM by logician magician

Proof that anyone adheres to this is a nut.

Nobody will answer these questions in all honesty because it requires one to exercise critical thinking - something that destroys most "conspiracies" and something that general ATS members just simply fail at.

Perhaps some brave soul will put it out on the line for us. I imagine any who tries to answer these will just make it clear that this conspiracy is retarded or that they have a gross misunderstanding of the elements involved.

1) What is a corporation?

2) What is a country?

3) How does a country operate vs. a corporation?

4) Are all countries corporations?

5) Are all corporations countries?

6) If the United States is a corporation, how exactly does that change anything about the way it operates or does business?

7) If it is a corporation, what would it be if it wasn't?

8) If the congress made the country into a corporation, was it illegal or legal? Why?

9) Presuming it was a country before the act of 1871, what changed after it was turned into a corporation?

10) Do corporations have governments?

11) Are all countries, for the purposes of administration, corporations?

12) All cities are corporations. Why?

reply posted on 4-10-2008 @ 11:12 PM by SuperViking

Originally posted by logician magician
Proof that anyone adheres to this is a nut.

Nobody will answer these questions in all honesty because it requires one to exercise critical thinking - something that destroys most "conspiracies" and something that general ATS members just simply fail at.

Perhaps some brave soul will put it out on the line for us. I imagine any who tries to answer these will just make it clear that this conspiracy is retarded or that they have a gross misunderstanding of the elements involved.

1) What is a corporation?

2) What is a country?

3) How does a country operate vs. a corporation?

4) Are all countries corporations?

5) Are all corporations countries?

6) If the United States is a corporation, how exactly does that change anything about the way it operates or does business?

7) If it is a corporation, what would it be if it wasn't?

8) If the congress made the country into a corporation, was it illegal or legal? Why?

9) Presuming it was a country before the act of 1871, what changed after it was turned into a corporation?

10) Do corporations have governments?

11) Are all countries, for the purposes of administration, corporations?

12) All cities are corporations. Why?

This post was worth quoting. (OP was not)

reply posted on 4-10-2008 @ 11:30 PM by logician magician

reply to post by LogicalSolution

You're correct (although you sound like Jordan Maxwell! haha), and what you and I have said (or rather, asked) may be able to reconcile this matter for a few of the more intelligent people here.

I think it's all the semantics involved that freak people out. They assume they are living in the conceptual "country" and when they "figure out" that their child like notion of a country is entirely skewed then they don't know what to think except that it's "wrong" and shouldn't be. They create a solid line between country and corporation - when there is no line to exists in a (especially) capitalist country.

The problem is ignorance. People don't realize that towns and cities are, in fact, corporations. They are "incorporated." This doesn't mean they are businesses in the normal sense though. They certainly DO business, have budgets, have administration, employees, etc... Do they not? Does your city employ people? Do governments employ people?

Do cities, counties, states, countries.. do they EMPLOY PEOPLE???????

Of course!

Most people believe that corporations and businesses are mutually exclusive when they are not. A "corporation" is just the lawful combining of resources, land, people, etc.. or what have you. It creates an artificial identity to legally do business as. To incorporate simply means to combine into a single entity. This is how the law works! This is how YOU do business under your name! To make it more clear, if you do a number 1 and number 2 at the same time, you've just incorporated your waste into a single flush (hopefully! haha)

People are essentially corporations as well, and as such, corporations have the rights of people. Under law, the United States is a country, corporation, and person. Your childhood notion of a "person" is not what the law states. The law is man-made of course. The United States is really rock, water, soil, land, etc... duh... it's not a damn epiphany to realize you are made out of flesh, bones, skins etc... but it does make it look like you're not made out of a brain if you go around spewing this crap at people and claiming some type of conspiracy to control your life!

I'll confess, people who call you crazy for doing it (who don't understand why) are just as crazy/ignorant as the people spewing the nonsense. Side A is saying "It's a corporation!" side b is saying, "It's a country you fool!"

This is why I think LogicalSolution made a great point and is pretty much on the money. Do you guys know what a VENN DIAGRAM is? Look it up if you don't, and apply it to the country/corporation thing. Look at the two extremes.

reply posted on 4-10-2008 @ 11:32 PM by logician magician

Just because you CAN do business doesn't mean you ARE a business.

reply posted on 31-1-2013 @ 06:06 PM by Aquarius2150

I heard this before but never looked into in until last night and oh man did it blow me away. As usual I did a ATS search and came to this thread. But no one seems to care???

If I lived in the UNITED STATES I would be raging mad. Anyways I don't know if this is going to get anywhere or if anyone is going to read this, but I can't make a new thread about it since there is one right here.

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