I'll ask this about any president in office - what can the president do without the backing of Congress?

One final note here.

The way these international banksters hide there investments (names) are by wrapping their family trusts into shell corporations in order to hide their true identities. They then further protect their investments (monopolies) by stashing them in offshore bank accounts with 'quasi-legal' confidentiality clauses protecting the revelation of the true owner.

It should not come to a surprise that they are going to so much trouble here is it?

They hide their identity to control an entity from behind the curtain. The fall guy has always been the executives who usually pay a small fine, admits no guilt, serves probationary period and then gets off scot free to repeat the same financial crimes again and again.

Their paid off or owned legal firms/justices see to this at once.

There powers to date have become so enormous its beginning to eat them from within. As always they got too greedy and aggressive and now 'their' empire is in jeopardy.

Why? I honestly don't believe the American people will put up with this scheme once they realize the full extent of what I'm talking about here today. They can always create a Revolution. Many ways to do that nonviolently or violently if necessary.

You may have to fight for your rights here fellows.
If this 700 Billion bailout bill passes, your rights pass as well because you all will now be in financial servitude in perpetude.

Ron Paul? where's that Revolution we hear about?

Someones got to stand up and fight for there rights.

Not everyone could be so sheepish now could they.

We'll see one way or another.

Sorry fellow Americans, I bailed out in Central America where I have discovered some new found freedoms and not too many 'statutory' laws either.

In the meantime I'll be a fly on this wall, pulling for the American folk, not folklore but good ole Americans from the heartland who know what this country was/is all about.

Just say NO to fascism.

I can't stand by and watch my neighbors battling each other in a police state under constant patrols tossing undesirables in REX-84 camps.

I can't imagine the American people will put up with this much longer once they are AWARE of what the hell is actually going down here.

If there is a Revolution, I'll bring my musket and lots of powder too!





[edit on 25-9-2008 by Perseus Apex]

Because Alex Jones is a BIG MOUTH idito who does nothing but spread fear and lies and paranoia. He is the little mans version of Bush but on a different levelt and in a different arena.

Dont believe ANYTHING that guy spouts. He is true DIARRHEA of the mouth!! Especially with the bull horn LOL. What an idiot. He has to be one of the biggest spreaders of fear thats out there.

Why do you bash Alex Jones?!?! Are you some sort of Zionist (NWO) troll? He has predicted a lot of things on his program, such as 911 and the currently stagged financial meltdown. You are more than welcome to call in to his show if you disagree with any subject he is discussing, in fact if you disagree your call will go to the front of the line.

He has had many experts on his show over the past few weeks such as Bob Chapman of theinternationalforecaster.com. This man knows his stuff when he talks about the market. He was a stock broker from 1960 to 1988, owned a brokerage firm for eighteen years (and was probably the biggest gold and silver dealer in the world at that time) he belonged to the traders association for twenty five years, from 1962 to 1976 he specialized in South African gold shares, and many other respectable achievements concerning the financial world. This is just one example of the many fine, patriotic individuals who appear on his show.

You might want to actually sit down and listen to the Alex Jones show, instead of making childish and arrogant comments such as the snide little quip about the glass of lemonade. He has a show streaming 24/7 on infowars.com. Have a nice day...:@

www.washingtonpost.com

Wall Street's Man in Washington

By Harold Meyerson
September 25, 2008

This past winter, when American banks were already scrambling for capital, foreign investors came to their rescue. Last November, the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority put $7.5 billion into Citigroup. One month later, Merrill Lynch sold $4.4 billion worth of new stock to Temasek Holdings of Singapore, and Morgan Stanley sold a $5 billion stake to China Investment Corp. In January, Merrill Lynch issued $6.6 billion of preferred stock to Korea Investment Corp. and the Kuwait Investment Authority, among others.

These far-flung buyers had one thing in common: They aren't private concerns. Each is a sovereign wealth fund, investing its national treasury's money -- its citizens' money -- in an effort to help out the hemorrhaging banks of Wall Street.

But these were not charitable outlays. The citizens of Abu Dhabi, Singapore, China, Korea and Kuwait got something in return for their treasuries' aid packages to American finance. They got stock. They got an equity interest in those banks.

These may not, just now, seem like the shrewdest investments ever made. Still, all those East Asian and petro-state citizens will probably reap some long-term profits if their treasuries hang on to those shares in Bank of America-Merrill, or Citigroup, or Morgan Stanley and Whomever It Merges With.

Which, sadly, is more than can be said for American citizens in the deal that Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson brought down from his Mount Sinai penthouse over the weekend. In Paulson's plan, the American public pours at least $700 billion of its money into purchasing the bad loans on Wall Street's books and gets -- well, it gets the thanks of a grateful Wall Street. It does not get any equity in return. To receive a return for their investment, Americans would have to become Chinese or Kuwaiti or Abu Dhabian; they would have to move to some country that accords a little more respect to the public's claim over its money.

During past financial crises, Americans did get something in return for the assistance their government proffered to Wall Street. As my American Prospect colleague Robert Kuttner has noted, when the Depression-era Reconstruction Finance Corp. (a bipartisan creation -- Herbert Hoover started it and Franklin Roosevelt continued it) poured $35 billion into American banks and corporations, it often became a preferred shareholder in those concerns and appointed members to those companies' boards to oversee their operations. Other quids offset the quos of the Resolution Trust Corp., which handled the savings and loan meltdown in the 1980s.

In Paulson's original proposal, by contrast, the Treasury secretary would write plenty of checks, unconstrained by any balances. Not surprisingly, Democrats in Congress have countered with a set of proposals to subject Treasury to stricter oversight and congressional accountability, to provide more direct relief to beleaguered homeowners, to restrict the pay of executives at companies that dump their bad deals on the Treasury, and to provide the public with an equity interest in the companies that taxpayers bail out. Paulson has reportedly acceded to more oversight and some more help for homeowners but is still defending the rights of CEOs to pay themselves astronomical sums and opposing efforts to give Americans a share of the companies whose bad loans they are assuming.

On one Sunday talk show, Paulson dismissed the idea of reining in top executives' pay. "If we design [the bailout] so it's punitive and so institutions aren't going to participate," he said, "this won't work the way we need it to work."

That depends on your definition of "we," does it not? In recent years, Wall Street salaries and bonuses have soared as investment banks peddled ever more profitable schemes that enabled Americans to take on debt -- an activity of no discernable social utility and, in fact, of some peril

WHEN CORPORATE POWER AND GOVERNMENT COMBINE IT IS CALLED FASCISM.

I'm just curious as to why isnt anyone noticing that the DEMOCRATS got us into this mess years ago during Clinton's term, by forcing banks to give mortgage loans to anyone that can stand and breathe, without checking their credit or even knowing if they would be able to pay off the loan! And lets not forget the numerous times McCain AND BUSH wanted to reform Fannie Mae and AIG and Lehman brothers but were BLOCKED by DEMOCRATS in Congress from doing so. Bush said we were heading into trouble in 2003. McCain said we are heading into BIG trouble in 2005, and no one listened. Now here we are, and the democrats still refuse to acknowledge the fact that its their fault.
By the way, another fun fact. Did you know that three former CEOs of Fannie Mae are advisers to Obama? Be sure to check the campaign donations from Fannie Mae and to who they all went to and how much.

And lets be honest. You all know that if there was a single Republican involved in this, that person would have been tarred and feathered and destroyed by the Obama News Networks and by every Democrat in DC. But as we see, silence. Democrats got us into this, now we want them to get us out?

Yes, this is a coup. Its being drawn out bits here and bits there...for instance, the debates will take place, but i dont have much faith in this.
I still say that there will not be any elections.
Within 2 weeks i'd say we will know where we really stand.

Originally posted by princeofpeace
Because Alex Jones is a BIG MOUTH idito who does nothing but spread fear and lies and paranoia.

1. He does have a very big mouth
2. Your not paranoid if their really after you and if that realisation doesn't leave you at lease somewhat afraid your probably the idiot.

He is the little mans version of Bush but on a different levelt and in a different arena.

So basically his different? Well done genius.

Dont believe ANYTHING that guy spouts. He is true DIARRHEA of the mouth!!

Actually i do believe a whole lot he says as i figured it out from other sources. He could certainly say less and make his points but i wont let his personal failings prevent me from listening to what he has to say.

Especially with the bull horn LOL. What an idiot. He has to be one of the biggest spreaders of fear thats out there.

The biggest spreaders of fear , unlike Alex Jones, have access to the MSM and Alex isn't and could never be in their league however paranoid and irrational he may get. At least we can agree that the Bullhorn really, REALLY has to go.

Stellar

[edit on 28-9-2008 by StellarX]