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Nashville Gas Crisis Cover-Up

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posted on Sep, 23 2008 @ 03:26 AM
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Originally posted by thecandyman
Better fill up the car and as many gas cans as possible beforehand.


Emphasis mine.

Just a heads up... This only ADDS to the PROBLEM. Hoarding leads to shortages (as there may be just enough gas out there for a full tank for every Tennessean.)

I live in Hermitage, TN. The Wally world gas station right next door to me has had a fairly steady supply (ran out four about 6 hours on Sunday...) Saturday I stopped to fill up and had to wait in line for about 1 hour, probably because of good timing. When I pulled up to the pump two a**holes next to me had 55 gallon drums in the backs of their trucks. One dude had two of them...

That's 165 gallons of gas to these two arrogant s.o.b.s. Not to mention the probably 20 gallons they both put into their trucks. a total of 205 gallons of gas for TWO PEOPLE. Meanwhile I was filling up with a measly 12 gallons (400 miles worth of travel)

Had these guys had any common sense and utilized what they needed (and the thousands of others who were running amuck this weekend) there would NOT have been a shortage.



~^~OP Reply~^~

If (and that's a big if...) there is any kind of conspiracy involved in this it is that there is some setup for the presidential debate being held at Belmont university this Friday...
What a perfect scenario... A "town hall" debate that will most likely be focused on the most important 'non-issue'; Gas...

I personally believe that the biggest problem is the run on the stations. As has been said more than once in this thread, family and friends are strongly urging that people fill up their cars and gas cans.

For instance... I normally run a quarter of a tank (3 gallons) which will get me where I need to go. Had I filled up two gas cans (one full tank on my vehicle) I would have purchased 7 times my normal supply in one purchase. Now imagine 250,000 example me's across the state of Tennessee... We would be the cause of this crisis.

P.s. If you really can't find gas... Check the Internet... Updates ARE available... So are Gas Station phone numbers...

Oh and to keep people from thinking I just don't know because I haven't been effected by this 'crisis' I DID run out of gas Friday as I was stuck in Franklin, with .25 gallons of gas and 30 mile drive home; finding gas was not easy when stranded... but from home it's a cakewalk...

~Coven




posted on Sep, 23 2008 @ 09:20 AM
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I like just north of Nashville in Goodlettsville, and work in Nashville. The situation on the way home friday was insane. People were in panic mode driving around trying to find gas. There was a Pilot gas station just off the interstate that had ridiculous lines to fill up. Then once I got to Rivergate (area where I live) there was two stations I found with gas (not that I was driving around trying to find them). One station had the gas priced at $3.99 a gallon, this was Shell station. THen down the street a bit, within a 5 mile radius there was an AM/PM station that had their gas jacked up to $4.69!!!!!! If I would have known who to call to report this I would have. My wife and I did get early saturday to go fill up and found a Mapco station close to our house with no lines, got the gas for $3.92.



posted on Sep, 23 2008 @ 09:48 AM
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why is there no official hardcore reporting on this

why are there no real questions and answers

why are we not hearing anything from the government or tv about why this is going on


because we are not standing up for ourselves

every single person out there in and area that has no gas needs to stand up and yell

get mad

call your congressmen

call your politicians

call the news stations

demand answers

and if you dont get any
call back, keep calling, wait on hold, if that doesnt work then go down to their offices go down to the news stations

force answers out of those who have them


if this is really going on and its this serious that whole cities and states are going without fuel and energy why are the people there not raising hell storms on those in charge???


theres no acceptable reason that there is a shortage anywhere in the united states


fight back people

[edit on 23-9-2008 by Dramey]



posted on Sep, 23 2008 @ 09:53 AM
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Maybe those two "a**holes" you described did need that much gas. Just because you have a 12 gallon tank does not mean others do. Maybe they were farmers who needed gas for their equipment. Maybe they lived out in the boonies and needed gas for their generators so they could have electricity. There are a thousand what-ifs.

This is what capitalism is about anyways. There should be no limits and police intervention, the market should run its course. If I thought that there was a possibility that I would have problems purchasing something that I needed, best believe I would go out and stock up to my hearts content. If you believe those gas stations should have to give a little bit to everyone, because its not fair that he gets 205 and I only get 12, perhaps take a look at moving to one of the more communistic countries out there.

Edit Spelling.


[edit on 23-9-2008 by ninthaxis]



posted on Sep, 23 2008 @ 10:20 AM
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I was talking to a realitive who travels for his company. Last night he told me that he drove from Ohio to S. Carolina..He said he saw a few gas stations along the way that were either out of gas, or only had premium.
So please add S. Carolina to the list of states that are having problems getting gas..I think it has nothing to do with supply..I believe it has everything to do with what has happened on wallstreet...There are business's that cannot get credit right now..and lets face it..all is ran on credit..even gas stations...There are ppl on the net reporting gas outages..all one has to do is go to gas prices sites..most have message boards..I went to www.gasbuddy.com and found ppl on the message board telling of no gas, or 5 gal. limit gas...do your homework ppl..it is not just a rumor...



posted on Sep, 23 2008 @ 10:58 AM
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www.ireport.com...

Here is an i-report from Atlanta! So exactaly how long did they say it was going to get the gas issue back together? Seems like a long time since those hurricanes?? Or am I the only one thinking that?



posted on Sep, 23 2008 @ 11:06 AM
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I live close to Asheville NC and we are in the same situation. There is no gas around. When a station does get gas in there are lines for miles and people fighting. So they have police on the scene. The gas stations are saying they've sent out tanker trucks to get gas in, but the trucks come back empty... They give no reason why this is happening.

What is even worse is this isn't even making TV news. It's like the problem doesn't exist. We about 15 miles from town and need gas to get to work. When is this going to end? Where is the news coverage?



posted on Sep, 23 2008 @ 11:06 AM
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I live in the Nashville area as well...Some places have gas over towards Hermitage and Mt. Juliet. Just have to wait. I caught a break and filled up at BP after a 30 minute wait.

For all the Middle Tennessee folks on here, here's a link to a video that is classic.


blogs.nashvillescene.com...

Hope it clears up soon. Supposed to have been a problem with the pipelines from Houston that are now suposed to be online again.



posted on Sep, 23 2008 @ 11:17 AM
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Like I said in an earlier post. There is also 2 pipelines being worked on in Virginia which is causing super major supply disruptions in and around Virginia, including the surrounding states!!!! I don't know if this is effecting TN, but I see a few people from NC commenting here. I would bet that the pipeline maintenance is the culprit in the North Eastern states.



posted on Sep, 23 2008 @ 11:20 AM
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Wow... Farm land in the Middle of the Nashville suburbs...

Me thinks some people know TOO much.

TN still has power... We're being screwed on Gas. So the generator fuel is out of the question.

I have a feeling by your response you don't know a thing about TN.

1) we're not all farmers and farm land

2) we normally work together so that everyone is taken care of, (i.e. TN is the Volunteer State. UT's football team is even the VOLUNTEERS.) which makes your declaration of me being a communist laughable at best.

(15 years ago this would have never happened. A LOT of self serving people have moved to TN because of affordability. Which screws those of us who know what it's like to be a Tennessean.)

3) it's pretty obvious these guys were hoarding as one of them made the comment that they won't have to buy gas for a month now.

but whatever. It's the survivalist mentallity. I'm going to take all I want, and screw what you need.

Self serving, and if in range of my shells, requiring a deadly reaction.

Don't mess with Texas? hell, thats weak.

Don't F*** with Tennessee. We own hog farms.

Reminds me I need a new "welcome to Nashville, ya'll go home now ya hear!" bumpersticker." not like it would do much, but it lets those of you that aren't 'Nashville' at heart know we don't want you here.


Quit your witchhunt for communists, and start realizing it is in human nature to take good care of your community. When you only do your part... we end up where we are now.



posted on Sep, 23 2008 @ 11:23 AM
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I am in Murfreesboro and I haven't had any problems getting gas. I live off of I-24 and most of the stations up and down the main st (Church St) have had gas. I know that the northside of town and other areas have not had any. I do find it strange that no where else in the country (except the SE) is having problems. They are getting gas too. One of the local news stations did have a story of two men getting into a fight over gas. Hopefully this problem clears up soon.



posted on Sep, 23 2008 @ 11:34 AM
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Hendersonville finally got a little over night. The Shell only has 87 octane for 3.99 per gallon. I haven't seen any around here since Friday night when lines went around the block and the cops didn't want to let me into the market part of the gas station for my UF vs UT game barley pops...



posted on Sep, 23 2008 @ 11:37 AM
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No where did I say TN was all farm land. You are lashing out because you having nothing of value to add to the discussion. I merely said to take a look at the possibilities. And the generator. How do you know he is not one of those survivalist people who live off the grid? No where did I say you had no power, I merely brought up things that you probably didn't think about. And then to top you off you start adding to your original story by saying" well he said now he wont have to buy gas for a month." Ever think that this is how he usually purchases gas? There are a thousand maybes, some of them legitimate reasons for some guys requiring fuel purchases that large. Again, just because someone isn't just like you, does not make them wrong or insensitive.

And yes, in survival situations, if its a choice between me and you, I i will choose for me to have and you to go without 100% of the time. My survival means more to me than yours does, and deep down I bet many people feel the same way.

And one more thing. I did not call you a communist, I said if you don't like the way capitalism is, maybe you should give communism a try.

[edit on 23-9-2008 by ninthaxis]

[edit on 23-9-2008 by ninthaxis]



posted on Sep, 23 2008 @ 12:17 PM
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Let me know when your living in this situation. Then you can tell me whats best.

People were fighting for gas this weekend.

Why? Because of idiots hoarding fuel...

Sounds like the perfect utopia... Mad Max anyone?


If it makes me communist to only take what I need then I guess I am one. To bad for folks like you that I'm NOT the only one. To be honest if this happens again, I want to see the police checking fuel gauges. If you have more than a quarter of a tank... Keep driving.

Sometimes Demand doesn't meet supply. then one of two things happens.

prices go through the roof to reduce demand.

or rationing occurs so that everyone gets their fair share.

If we don't ration, we cause inflation, which can further crash our failing capitalist economy.

Capitalism is a joke, as our near fallen economy is showing. Nationalized Socialism is actually the best form of government, but some nutter in the 40's utilized his government to fulfill his own sick desires, and now National Socialism is frowned upon.

It's funny you've yet to state where you're at. I'm in the middle of this "crisis' and I'm telling you what I see. Where exactly are you Tuesday morning quarterbacking from?



posted on Sep, 23 2008 @ 12:36 PM
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As I have repeatedly stated, I am asking you to consider other options. Just because I don't live in TN does not mean I do not have something to say about whats going on there. The only reason I can see for you being upset at those men for purchasing fuel is because you were afraid that YOU may not have fuel to purchase later on. A sympathetic front, but selfish at the very core.

Again, as I have repeatedly stated, you do not know that these men did not need the fuel they were purchasing. For all you know these men could be donating this fuel to stranded motorists, family members, etc. Unlikely, yes but you have absolutely no proof of the reason these men are purchasing. And guess what? It does not matter why, if you have the money you can purchase the product. Don't blame the consumer blame the supplier, better yet blame yourself for you oil dependence. You dont give a rats a** about those guys, why should they be concerned for you? We here in TN help out others, unless we feel they are helping out themself. Then we say screw them. Ha, sounds like a great place to be.



posted on Sep, 23 2008 @ 12:42 PM
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If we don't ration, we cause inflation, which can further crash our failing capitalist economy.
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Better yet, lets have our loving, kind-spirited government determine how much we need to survive. So the ambulance and the geo-metro get the same ration because its only fair that you suffer with me. Rationing is NOT what this country needs. Supply and demand work themselves out.

This statement is hypocritical of you as well, seeming as you stated socialism is way better than capitalism, so why not just let the system fall so you can have your lovely capitalism? It is because by rationing we are actually displaying the economic system you want. Rationing is what will cause capitalism to fall.



posted on Sep, 23 2008 @ 01:00 PM
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I live in Knoxville and everything seems to be back to normal. There was a pipeline that was having trouble getting gas to Knoxville because of Ike. The local news reported it and everyone went out and bought up all the gas. Personally, because i new this was only temporary, I only got enough to last me a week which was about 5 gallons.

The gas stations that didn't raise prices for fear of being called "price gougers" ran out of gas first. Where as if they had raised prices like the other stations did we may not have had this problem.



posted on Sep, 23 2008 @ 02:33 PM
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OP Here. A huge thank you to everyone who reported in. It helped a lot of us here in Nashville to know that we were not the only ones, meaning rumor and panic were probably not the sole cause. Many people took Quazi176's advice and found gas in the wee, wee hours.
Although the general sense here is that things are starting to ease, really the situation has not changed much. My friendly station owner I spoke of yesterday still has no gas. He says tomorrow, like he always does. The Shell guy still can't get a hold of his distributor. A nearby Exxon has a truck filling it's tanks right now, with a small line starting to form. The Pilot truck stop, which never ran out of the cheap grade, has much less of a line today. I think most have managed to fill up, and are regulating their driving. So demand is less, supply is more.
Half the stations are still out of gas though, and those that are not may only have regular. Prices are still crazy different, from $3.69-$4.50. Still, the worst seems to be over. This article claims 3-4 weeks before supplies stabilize.
[www.newschannel9.com...]
Seems like a long time, let's keep each other informed. Btw, that Nashville Scene video is hilarious.



posted on Sep, 23 2008 @ 05:58 PM
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Perhaps this the the link you were trying to post: tennessean.com






mod edit: fixed link



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posted on Sep, 23 2008 @ 07:53 PM
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Glad you enjoyed the video...one of my new favorites.







 
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