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reply posted on 2-12-2008 @ 03:57 PM by Mintwithahole.
reply to post by WhatTheory



"Sorry, but you are confusing arrogance with confidence.
It's easy & common for 'outsiders' to make this mistake."
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Yeh, right! That confidence served you well in Vietnam didn't it? It's also been quite good to you in Afghanistan and Iraq where everything the American army seems to touch goes tits up pretty quickly. So confident in-fact, that every time a war appears on the horizon America gets the UK involved and then insists that other countries also get involved and back America.
Sorry but it's arrogance of the highest order. Your government is, and has for the last ten years or more, dragged America's excellent reputation and good name through the mud. I, for one, hpe Obama can repair your reputation and brings your boys home to their families.


reply posted on 6-12-2008 @ 10:34 PM by FearSoul
reply to post by Mintwithahole.



Its funny how the brits forget ww1 and ww2 when we had to save you from the germans....

Maybe we shouldn't help the british if the nazis were to rise up in germany again


reply posted on 8-12-2008 @ 01:33 PM by musselwhite
reply to post by switching yard

you are are tip-toeing thru the tulips in la la land. "our government would not allow" this is such a silly statement..............


reply posted on 10-12-2008 @ 07:45 PM by dooper
reply to post by Mintwithahole.



By the same token, the next time Britain gets into a scrap, can you guys handle it and let us stay home? I lost uncles in Europe!

China, Russia, and anyone else you can think of do not have sufficient naval forces to even reach American shores with any significant invasion force. We may get into a total war one day, but if things really go tits up, I doubt there will be enough folks in the mood to invade the US to field a soccer team.

Even if they did, and actually made it to our shores, it would be a very short visit.

The only successful invasion of the US is by Mexico. And it's still ongoing.


reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 09:00 AM by musselwhite
reply to post by dooper

i would like to interject a point of interest, George Jr together w/the prime minister of Canada and President of Mexico signed an agreement January, 2008 called Security and Prosperity Partnership Of North America www.spp.gov...

SPP Background

The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP) was launched in March of 2005 as a trilateral effort to increase security and enhance prosperity among the United States, Canada and Mexico through greater cooperation and information sharing.

This trilateral initiative is premised on our security and our economic prosperity being mutually reinforcing. The SPP recognizes that our three great nations are bound by a shared belief in freedom, economic opportunity, and strong democratic institutions.

The SPP provides the framework to ensure that North America is the safest and best place to live and do business. It includes ambitious security and prosperity programs to keep our borders closed to terrorism yet open to trade.

The SPP builds upon, but is separate from, our long-standing trade and economic relationships. It energizes other aspects of our cooperative relations, such as the protection of our environment, our food supply, and our public health.


this agreement (not approved by the people of the US) also allows for troops from Canada and Mexico to cross our borders and assist in stabilizing civil unrest.

just a thought you might want to ponder and the ushering in of The North American Union.



[edit on 11-12-2008 by musselwhite]


reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 04:24 PM by musselwhite
reply to post by pepsi78

this is a map of World Commanders and Area of Responsibility. Notice Alaska has green/blue coloring which respresents usnorthcom and uspaccom which is United States and China.

i believe Russia is only say 90 miles from Alaska. But I do believe China, Russia and Iran are in cahoots according to the Shanghai Cooperation Organization original formed to counter-balance the United Nations and NATO.

The Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) is an intergovernmental mutual-security organisation which was founded in 2001 by the leaders of China, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan. Except for Uzbekistan, the other countries had been members of the Shanghai Five, founded in 1996; after the inclusion of Uzbekistan in 2001, the members renamed the organisation.


The Shanghai Five grouping was originally created April 26, 1996 with the signing of the Treaty on Deepening Military Trust in Border Regions in Shanghai by the heads of states of Kazakhstan, the People's Republic of China, Kyrgyzstan, Russia and Tajikistan. April 24, 1997 the same countries signed the Treaty on Reduction of Military Forces in Border Regions in a meeting in Moscow.
en.wikipedia.org...

Members
China
Kazakhstan
Kyrgyzstan
Russia
Tajikistan
Uzbekistan

Observers
India
Iran
Mongolia
Pakistan

Guest Attendances
Afghanistan
ASEAN
CIS


reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 04:30 PM by musselwhite
reply to post by super70

i certainly appreciate your believe in the might of america but i do believe our government is out to destroy its people but to some degree you are right about not being able to reach our borders but i do believe they will spring out from among us:
“At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth in their military chest; with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years.

At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.”
Abraham Lincoln - January 27, 1838

i think they are already here in position.
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