Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1

reply to post by jam321


Great. NORAD is just down the street from me. Really, great. Fabulous news. I cannot be happier. Seriously, joyous occasion. I wish I had a bottle of champagne, honestly. Praise good news.

reply to post by DisabledVet


I'm not an equipment specialist but that truck (the Sentinel) looks totally unfit for a battlefield. Why does the Army need intel vehicles that aren't designed for combat zones or thereabouts? It looks like a commercial truck that's been filled up with intel equipment. Why is the Army getting vehicles that would be at home on a paved street in peacetime?

reply to post by EtSolveMundi


Are you asking rhetorically?

If so, remove the question marks.

reply to post by pluckynoonez


Is it time for more panic sex and cheetos? What a FUN week!!!

come to my house everybody but you gotta bring beer and bullets, we have some battle hardened former vets living right near each other, we own the block..lol, I think we need to just relax a bit, As a ten year army veteran I am not quite ready to open fire on soldiers and I really dont think they want to police american citizens. Now Im not saying that I know the joint chiefs or generals, well maybe I know one or two from my service but from the people I have spoken to and the friends I still have know nothing and Id like to think that we are still close enough that they would not hide anything from me, especially since one of my best friends is still serving, we went to boot camp together and AIT and so on and so on and we served overseas together so Im hoping the tie that binds is still strong and if it is going to happen as I stated before we are ready and I will protect what is mine and those around me..

A division is only 10,000 to 20,000 soldiers right? I don't like the idea of the CorpGov putting the active military on patrol in these United States, but that number of troops isn't going to stop a revolution or anything.

...but isn't the National Guard supposed to be the organization protecting the nation?

The Sentinal has "police" lights on it. They probably won't use those on some middle-eastern battle field. This is very spooky to me.

Originally posted by HERACAT
reply to post by pluckynoonez

 

Is it time for more panic sex and cheetos? What a FUN week!!!

"I normally would never bring this up, but the world is ending tomorrow and I don't want to die a virgin."

Well, looks like the philosophy that Might Makes Right, appears to be a remedy for not just belligerent Nations, but dire situations at home as well.

From my time in the military, I would say the troops would most likely engage the public in the very beginning if martial law were instated...then, after a few horrific events, sobriety will kick in, followed by a nasty hang-over of WTF did we just do?!

As mentioned in several posts before mine, the troops are NOT robotic minions - they have some of the same highs and lows as anyone else; not too mention that they also have a moral compass. The nature of their job may influence their initial perception of the situation, but to say that they would mindlessly gun down people is bit too far fetched...I know atrocities have been conducted by our own troops in probably every campaign and war we have been engaged in - but the same atrocities occur daily within the public itself.

I can only hope that if this were to actually occur (martial law), that the citizens
keep as cool a head as they would expect from the troops...far easier said than done, but the muscle is with the military and it will be their re(actions) that dictate the outcome of something of this nature.

And yes, there may come the time that the citizens of this country will need to rise up...but before we get to that point, let's give the troops the benefit of the doubt.

Chapter 29 is correct, we do have a moral compass and we are not robots, Many people get that twisted as I progressed in my military career I became more of a leader and I was able to think before I reacted to a situation however sometimes there is no time to think, then it comes down to relying on your training and having faith in the guys you serve with. I would like to think nobody ever programmed me, I was a patriot since I was a young boy watching my father put on his uniform and my father watching his father put his uniform on, It became a right of passage when I was old enough to join. I thik that if It came down to it, American soldiers would not open fire on its citizens..If its an unlawful order then technically you do not have to obey.

This video is now top 5, worldwide:

www.youtube.com...

So it's only about 5,000 troops. I am concerned however, slippery slope and all, this could be only the beginning.

its not the size of the BCT that is a concern..Its the equipment they have..Bradleys are a mainstay and they are battle hardened, I believe 3rd ID has had seven deployments to Iraq.

Originally posted by awakened1
Preparations for Martial Law / Civil Unrest , possibly if the economy does crash and possible another October Surprise.

Being a Vet myself, this is very strange that they would use Combat Troops for "humanitarian" efforts.

Prepare yourselves for anything

Peace

That is exactly what I have been doing for a year and a half since I received my inheritance.
My grandfather left me 500 acres of woodland with a house right in the middle of it. I am off the grid running on propane generators. i have installed storm shutters and have clips on the iside where i can slide in a 1/2" plate to cover the windows.
I had built two "basements" and tunnels connecting them.
I am heavily armed and i have video surveillance with wireless cameras throughout the 500 acres.
The only thing that I haven't done is booby trapped the woods surrounding the house with explosives. I have been looking in S of F for someone to install these for me but haven't had any luck. the two I have called have said I needed to seek professional help.

This may be true but I am going to get explosives set up one way or another.

I want to be ready for anything that comes at me.

am i nuts?

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Nuts?..Naah...Its your property and your right to do whatever you feel in my opinion, Can I come stay with you?..Im real good with clymores..lol..I can go on forever with this thread because as much as I do not think this will happen I am always prepared, My time in army has taught me well. I know this much, I need out of New Jersey

reply to post by Fathom

am i nuts?

Not at all...but if you start assuming that everyone, including those you still consider family and friends, are out to get you - well, you may have issues.

But if you are just prepping for something bad, without getting too obsessive (possible?), then you are good to go.

You might want to stock up on some of the products on this site.

Either way, keep a cool head yo...

reply to post by chapter29


I ordered some nutristorage.com food yesterday and there is a two-week backlog on production.

The MRE companies say they have been taken over by FEMA in the last couple of weeks to supply hurricane victims.

reply to post by emsed1


Wow...if that is the case, I need to act on the priority list I have.

If I wait any longer, I'll be left with slim pickings! I remember trading MRE's and their contents like it was money while in the field. The spaghetti and ham MRE's were the best, but I think they have changed up the system since I was in. The cheese and crackers side was seen as GOLD.

Nothing like 2400 calories in one meal, huh?

Originally posted by wingman77
A division is only 10,000 to 20,000 soldiers right? I don't like the idea of the CorpGov putting the active military on patrol in these United States, but that number of troops isn't going to stop a revolution or anything.

...but isn't the National Guard supposed to be the organization protecting the nation?

You are correct wingman77. I'm a former US Marine and now an Ohio National Guardsmen, it is our job to work with Federal, State and Local Police departments in a time on State and National emergencies to provide Policing powers and communications.

After 9/11 the National Guard where activated to guard Airports, power StPlants, etc. (with loaded weapons ready).


Marines Practicing Policing in Swansboro, NC in 2000

www.youtube.com...

So, don't get all in a panic over it. I've been in and around the Military for 28 years and rest assured we where doing this back in the 1980's in California and North Carolina!

Stop pushing the panic button...

** Press panic button if men in dark cars, not in uniform storm your house in the middle of the night and take you and your family at gun point **

I'm probably one of the most paraniod people here on ATS, why I own so many weapons and train with them all. Stock piled water, food, for a month + beer, silver, gold to get by. I'm a threat to Society NOT

Besides, I'll not be one that they clamp down on if Martial Law is declared I'll be one of them running around with a gun... er computer.

Take it all in stride, relax, the World will not end and there are to many of US (yes, Military people are you as well, just trained a lot different)

I'm no different then anyone on these boards, well except I'm been to war a few times in my life.

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The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed on June 16, 1878 after the end of Reconstruction. The Act prohibits most members of the federal uniformed services (the Army, Air Force, and State National Guard forces when such are called into federal service) from exercising nominally state law enforcement police or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order" on non-federal property (states, their counties and municipal divisions) in the former Confederate states.

In early 2006, the 109th Congress passed a bill containing controversial provisions that granted the President additional rights to use federal or state National Guard Troops inside the United States in emergency situations. These changes were included in the John Warner Defense Appropriation Act for Fiscal Year 2007 (H.R. 5122.ENR).

These changes were repealed in their entirety in 2008.

From Wikipedia.