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Topic started on 21-9-2008 @ 09:37 AM by ModernAcademia

Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1


www.armytimes.com
The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore essential services and escorting supply convoys.

Now they’re training for the same mission — with a twist — at home.

Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.
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[edit on 21/9/2008 by Mirthful Me]


reply posted on 21-9-2008 @ 10:24 AM by mapsurfer_
reply to post by Manasseh



Or perhaps squelch the potential for a civil war. You never know what will happen. I have no problem with our army doing its job, at home or abroad.
Hard to say what their mission is, but there is nothing out of the ordinary about it.


reply posted on 21-9-2008 @ 10:29 AM by Manasseh
reply to post by mapsurfer_



The Army's "job" should be protecting us from our government.

The whole thing has spiraled out of control

But don't you worry, there will be Order out of Chaos



reply posted on 21-9-2008 @ 10:35 AM by Interestinggg
Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.


On call for disasters or terrorist attacks.
That doesn't really sound like patrolling the streets enforcing martial law now does it?

They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.


That doesn't sound to good though does it?

The 1st BCT’s soldiers also will learn how to use “the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,” 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.


Oh boy.

“It’s a new modular package of nonlethal capabilities that they’re fielding. They’ve been using pieces of it in Iraq, but this is the first time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded, and because of this mission we’re undertaking we were the first to get it.”
The package includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block; spike strips for slowing, stopping or controlling traffic; shields and batons; and, beanbag bullets.


Ok going a little overboard now.

[edit on 21-9-2008 by Interestinggg]



reply posted on 21-9-2008 @ 10:38 AM by Jay-in-AR
reply to post by mapsurfer_



Actually, this isn't the Army's job at all. The Army's mission statement is to close within and destroy the enemy of the US. With that in mind, who is their enemy? Us?

Our Army's infantry is not a police force, although they are being phased in that direction. Keep your eyes on this one folks, it has been my experience that when things go awry, amazingly the Army already has people in place to take care of things. Something to this effect happened more than once while I was doing my time in the Army.

Over time it is becoming harder and harder for me to remember the details of what happened on post during and directly after 9-11, but two things stick out vividly. We had already tasked soldiers to join a naval vessel off the coast of Bahrain when the towers came down. (this was an amazing coincidence as it is not common practice to send an entire Battalion of Infantry soldiers on board a naval vessel unless there is to be a training exercise for them to take part in or a real world mission) and the fact that my unit had been moved into QRF status just before the attacks happened. This came as a huge coincidence in my mind also because it seemed that as soon as we were moved into reactionary status, the largest attack on US soil ever took place. Of course there are other possible reasons for these things and my testimony doesn't implicate anyone of anything, but I am starting to notice a trend.


reply posted on 21-9-2008 @ 11:04 AM by ModernAcademia
reply to post by Interestinggg



seems like everything you quoted is geared towards crowd control more than anything.

Is this just to create more fear in the hearts of protesters?


reply posted on 21-9-2008 @ 11:22 AM by Interestinggg
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
reply to
post by Interestinggg



seems like everything you quoted is geared towards crowd control more than anything.

Is this just to create more fear in the hearts of protesters?


Unruly individuals need the army to beanbag gun them?
They actually wrote in the article "Unruly individuals".
What exactly is an "unruly" individual?
Is this a war on individuals?
I think Alex Jones best get a beanbag proof jacket.
This is like something out of a movie.


reply posted on 21-9-2008 @ 01:29 PM by Skelkie3
reply to post by primamateria



There is a law that ( unless it's been changed or overturned ) makes it very difficult if not impossible to deploy the military in the United States against the people, ' unruly ' or otherwise.
It was called The Posse Comitatus Act.

But, be aware that: It is illegal for the US to attack a nation that has not attacked it.
It is illigal in the US to appoint executive officers like the President, except by the popular vote ( tempered perhaps with the ' electoral vote ' ).
It is illegal in the US to put the best interests of another nation first, or ( I think ) to be a dual citizen.

It's illegal to do half the things our fearless leaders do...



reply posted on 21-9-2008 @ 01:49 PM by drew1503
So they are meeting up with other classified units that have already been here?

"The command is at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, Colo., but the soldiers with 1st BCT, who returned in April after 15 months in Iraq, will operate out of their home post at Fort Stewart, Ga., where they’ll be able to go to school, spend time with their families and train for their new homeland mission as well as the counterinsurgency mission in the war zones."

WAR ZONES IN AMERICA?

"In the meantime, they’ll learn new skills, use some of the ones they acquired in the war zone and more than likely will not be shot at while doing any of it.

They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.

Training for homeland scenarios has already begun at Fort Stewart and includes specialty tasks such as knowing how to use the “jaws of life” to extract a person from a mangled vehicle; extra medical training for a CBRNE incident; and working with U.S. Forestry Service experts on how to go in with chainsaws and cut and clear trees to clear a road or area."

So they will be doing crowd control, traffic duties, working tin the forest, etc? This is illegal and we should be upset about this. It is fine for the military to be home training to DEFEND America but not against the citizens.

If you do not think this is scary you are nuts.


reply posted on 21-9-2008 @ 01:54 PM by vance
reply to post by drew1503



War zones in America???
Can we get a big ole duh huh out of you Drew? Talk about not understanding what you are reading. Read it again - as well as counterinsurgency in the war zones. The war zones being Iraq and Afghan get it now? Man, some comprehension while reading you got going on there bud.
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