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Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
I certainly wouldn't want to live in a world devoid of religion, because if "what you see is what you get" and death is unquestionably the end, why not simply indulge your most twisted desires? Sure, the chances are high that you would be struck down, but could not a truly vile person say they enjoyed it while it lasted?
Originally posted by BlackViolet
Thanks for a great thread and thanks to all who posted here,some good stories,
Allow me if you will to relay my own.
I grew up in an occult surrounding and saw many things of the other world,Some may say that it is not true and that is fine,i have no judgment on
others and what they believe.
For myself since becoming a Christian i have found that yes,there is a security blanket,God himself provides me with it,
It is one of peace,peace when there is war about me,knowing that he takes care of me and will keep me safe while he wants me here and will take me when he wants me home
Love,love that is unbounded by performance He still loves me even when i get it wrong,Loves me enough to pick me up,dust me off and set me on my feet again
Trust,trust that he has my life and my best interest in heart and at hand
and that he knows what is best for me even when i can't see it
These things are the most wonderful security anyone can have and i am grateful for them
In saying this tho,there has been a price and that price has been great in some things,what he has asked in return is that i obey him,that in life that i approach the matters of life with his perspective,he commands that i not lie,to others,to him and to myself,and that may seem easy but there are many times that we do in light of his precepts,that i must love,and love those that are hard to love and show me hate and thats a hard thing to do sometimes,sometimes i fail and react instead of respond and i fall short of his mark,but you know what,he doesn't love me any less,and also he doesn't remove the consequences of my actions but makes me confront them and do what is right,to say sorry when i am wrong,to fix what i have broken,to heal where i have wounded,its Grace and it is character building and it is wonderful,Yes i love him and him me,there are times when i struggle to do what he asks because i think that i know better but i know when i follow him that the joy in my heart from knowing that i am pleasing to my Father is unsurpassed and i wouldn't swap it for anything.
This is the relationship that i have with God,not one that says that God will love me if i go to church and put money on the plate(yes,I like church and i feel blessed to give but it is not the foundation of my Faith nor is it done through fear,its a blessing,and for what it is worth and i say it with all humility because it breaks my heart greatly,to those that have ever been hurt or wounded by something done in the name of God that does not reflect his lovingkindness
I am Sorry
Originally posted by Dave Rabbit
1. Are people religious because they really believe?
2. Do they simply go through the motions because they are too afraid of the consequences .... just in case there is a Heaven or Hell?
3. Is it simply a security blanket because they want to believe that there is something better after they die and would be miserable if they didn’t believe there was something at the end of the religious rainbow?
[edit on 9/21/2008 by Dave Rabbit]
Originally posted by stonespiral
Unfortunately, what's the quote? "Absolute Power Corrupts, Absolutely."
Originally posted by BlackViolet
reply to post by alienesque
Hope you are well,
I will try answer your question as best as i can,
Well, according to the Bible which i believe God made every thing good in the beginning,there was no sickness,disease or death,God provided all the nessicary things for Adam and Eve and they were eternal,when the two of them decided to disobey God then all hell broke loose to use a metaphorical term,the things that they experienced were manifold,because they had removed them self from Gods blessing and protection they were subject to death and not only that everyone born after that has been subject to the same state of heart,God has provided a way home in the form of his Sons sacrifice,take that as you will,he loves you very much.
Alienesque,I know where you are coming from when you ask these questions,truely i do,i asked the same thing once and i know that they demand to be answered,and they will,i can't tell you what to think and feel and i wont,but if you really,and i mean really want to know if God is real,and not to prove a point,or to say"Ha",i knew it,but because you want to know the truth,then ask him,no need to do some religious thing or such but speak to him as you would a friend,as normal and ask him to show himself to you,
You may be surprised.
Originally posted by pause4thought
reply to post by Dave Rabbit
I now believe career-building, property investments, savings and pensions are used as 'security blankets'. 'No need to worry about what God thinks of my life - I'm secure'.
Which brings us back to where we started...