JFK's sniper's rifle, page 2
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reply posted on 25-9-2008 @ 05:49 AM by Grailkeeper
reply to post by DeltaNine




Bias towards the conspiracy angle, as it should be, because its considered by many as one of the biggest conspiracies in our history.

Very seldom do we see a show or doc. on the Kennedy Assassination that portrays both sides of the coin evenly. Its usually focused on 'for or against' the conspiracy, not both.

I believe I have seen maybe two shows that argued both sides evenly, just presenting the evidence and lack there of. I found both shows very informative and easy to watch.

In relation to the above, there has been a few ATS threads on JFK that meet the above mentioned criteria, having both sides post there arguments, thus giving much to think about.


reply posted on 17-10-2008 @ 03:55 PM by Retseh
Oswald shot Kennedy at a range of just 175 to 265 feet (81 m), which is point blank for a rifle shot. I would have stood a fair chance of hitting him at least once with a pistol at that range, but with a scoped rifle in the hands of a man who had previously earned a "Sharpshooter" rating in the military - forget about it.

This photo gives you a good perspective of the distance involved.

en.wikipedia.org...:Elm_from_6th_fl.jpg

The FBI tested the rifle and declared it capable of putting all its rounds 2 1/2 to 5 inches (130 mm) high, within a 3 to 5-inch (130 mm) circle at 100 yards.

Of all the conspiracy theories out there though, I think that this one has the most credibility, because I sincerely believe that there was a second shooter behing the fence on the grassy knoll, and that he was wearing a police officers uniform. There is now some photographic evidence to that effect.

Then there is a the sworn testimony of an army marksman who was approched for a special sniper mission shortly before the shooting, a mission he turned down. A colleague who signed up for this mission was never heard from again.

There's definitely more to this one.


[edit on 17-10-2008 by Retseh]


reply posted on 10-11-2009 @ 09:08 PM by dallasroofer
reply to post by Anonymous ATS



I agree. Plus, Oswald was a mediocre shot by Marine Corps standards. We all know there was likely a second or possibly even a third gunman.


reply posted on 10-11-2009 @ 09:10 PM by dallasroofer
reply to post by roguetechie



So it's possible? Wouldn't it have been better for Oswald to use something along the lines of a Sprinfield M19103A4? The CIA had those with silencers around the time of the JFK murder.



reply posted on 10-11-2009 @ 09:10 PM by dallasroofer
reply to post by roguetechie



So it's possible? Wouldn't it have been better for Oswald to use something along the lines of a Sprinfield M19103A4? The CIA had those with silencers around the time of the JFK murder.


reply posted on 10-11-2009 @ 09:13 PM by SpartanKingLeonidas
reply to post by Ranger23



No, it is not possible to make those shots, with that particular piece of crap rifle.

The Mannlicher Carcano was known as an unreliable rifle, due to it's make up of being a metal barrel with a wooden frame, the nature of the rifle itself was that the reciever was sloppy due to the slipshod manufacturing.

Quote from : Wikipedia : Mannlicher Carcano

6.5x52mm Carcano or 6.5x52mm Mannlicher-Carcano is an Italian military 6.77 mm (.266/67 cal.) rimless bottle-necked rifle cartridge, developed from 1889-1891 and used in the Carcano 1891 rifle and many of its successors.

A common synonym in US gun literature is "6.5mm Italian".

In US parlance, "Carcano" is frequently added to better distinguish it from the rimmed hunting cartridge 6.5x52mmR (US version: .25-35 Winchester).

Ballistically, its performance is very similar to that of the 6.5x54mm Mannlicher-Schönauer.


Any gun enthusiast worth their salt, ones that have actually held that model in their hands, can tell you that.

I suggest that anyone who wants to know a real experts opinion read the following book :

Kill Zone : A Sniper Looks at Dealey Plaza



[edit on 11-11-2009 by SpartanKingLeonidas]


reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 11:25 AM by Lonestar24
Originally posted by dallasroofer
reply to
post by roguetechie



So it's possible? Wouldn't it have been better for Oswald to use something along the lines of a Sprinfield M19103A4? The CIA had those with silencers around the time of the JFK murder.


The Carcano has a significantly less recoil than other "full powered" military rifles of the era, which makes it ideal for quick followup shots.


reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 05:23 PM by dallasroofer
reply to post by Lonestar24



That's a good point. I didn't know that about the Italian rifle. What kind of round would typically be used with that rifle? Also, since the Springfield rifles the CIA used had silencers, wouldn't that have been a better choice for a shot from the roof? Especially IF indeed Oswald was a plant?

By the way, here's the latest cowboy conspiracy YouTube LINK



reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 05:25 PM by dallasroofer
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas



Thanks for the support. Here's the latest YouTube video evidence.


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