Woman Gets Life Sentence For Sex With 5 Year Old Boy

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posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 09:28 PM
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Woman Gets Life Sentence For Sex With 5 Year Old Boy


www.orlandosentinel.com

A Sanford jury today convicted a 33-year-old woman of having sex with a 5-year-old boy.

Kelly Lumadue was then sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

Jurors on Tuesday watched videotape of the sex acts. They happened 12 years ago when Lumadue, then 21, lived in Longwood with her husband, a professional pornographer who recorded the session. He has since died.
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posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 09:28 PM
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I honestly...don't...know...what...to...say.

What is wrong with this world we live in? How can some people become so unbelievably twisted? What short-circuits these types of individuals?

The messed up thing about this is the mastermind behind the event got off easy. And if that trash guy hadn't come across that video, this gal would have too...


She wasn't arrested until 2003, seven years after the recordings were made. That's when a garbage collector found the tapes in a box at the curb outside Lumadue's Volusia County home. They were among videotapes she had thrown out.



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[edit on 19-9-2008 by DimensionalDetective]



posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 09:45 PM
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Well. After reading the article, it serves her and her dead husband justice.



posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 09:57 PM
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Yeah, but as a female, I have to say I think it is sexist.

Not that she doesnt deserve that, but male sex offenders and pedophiles rarely get that kind of sentence.

Some data on sentences in Texas which is not known for its soft and liberal treatment of criminals.

www...._state.tx.us/tpr/tpr5/7ps/ps07.html



Between 1991 and 1997, the number of sex offenders in Texas prisons increased by 130 percent. The average sentence length for sex offenders increased from 13.9 to 15.1 years, mainly because of increased sentence lengths for sex crimes against children. The average sentence length for sexual assault of a child increased from 16.5 to 18.6 years.


Again, before I get flamed all over the place, I am NOT saying that she didnt deserve the punishment. I think she does. I am saying that ALL pedophiles deserve that sort of punishment. And that I believe that the females get harsher treatment because it violates our sense of "women as the protectors of children," while we almost seem blase when it is another male pedophile.



posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 10:21 PM
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What I hate is they never ask the vicitim if it was consentual. Did that boy agree to it? Did he ask first and she agreed? Did he enjoy it and watned it to happen?

There's just so much more that people don't get the answers to.

For all we know, the kid enjoyed it and it was consentual. So why the life in prison? For having sex with someone? That's rediculous.



posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 10:24 PM
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Originally posted by MatrixBaller04
What I hate is they never ask the vicitim if it was consentual. Did that boy agree to it? Did he ask first and she agreed? Did he enjoy it and watned it to happen?

There's just so much more that people don't get the answers to.

For all we know, the kid enjoyed it and it was consentual. So why the life in prison? For having sex with someone? That's rediculous.



You've got to be kidding me. You don't seriously for one second think that a FIVE YEAR OLD can consent to sex?



posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 10:24 PM
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Originally posted by MatrixBaller04
For all we know, the kid enjoyed it and it was consentual. So why the life in prison? For having sex with someone? That's rediculous.


THE CHILD IS FIVE YEARS OLD!! Are you insane?!??
How could it be consensual??



posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 10:26 PM
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Who the hell knows if they can or not. have you ever sat down with a young child and asked them if they wanted to have sex and see what they say? No. So how are you so sure?

Did you read the article about researchers saying we need to teach children the pleasures of gay sex as early as 5?

[edit on 19-9-2008 by MatrixBaller04]


KTK

posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 10:26 PM
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I have never seen a male child abuser get that kind of sentence in any square inch of this earth.


You know men that rape adult females always get longer sentences(8 years min) than those that rape children. The avergage child rapist will be in jail less than 6 months, if convicted.(in my neck of the woods)


Justice my arse, the laws are like this all over the world too.



You know I dont think we are far off vigilante justice when it comes to these crimes.


I know I couldnt trust the justice system if something like this happened to my child, I would go and turn the bastard into a eunich, then I would get more jail time than the offender. But its the only way to get justice.


Civil libertarians that stand up for peadophile rights are nothing but filthy paedophiles themselves and deserve to be euniched.



Solution.......



posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 10:26 PM
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I've got problems with a trashman becomming a cop. What was he doing looking at trashed videos.

Also, what statue of limitation for a crime.



posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by MatrixBaller04
What I hate is they never ask the vicitim if it was consentual. Did that boy agree to it? Did he ask first and she agreed? Did he enjoy it and watned it to happen?

There's just so much more that people don't get the answers to.

For all we know, the kid enjoyed it and it was consentual. So why the life in prison? For having sex with someone? That's rediculous.


You can't be serious...At 5 he doesnt even know what consentual means.

Ask first and she agreed? OMG come on again at 5 you think he knows what sex is? Let alone how to ask for it?


KTK

posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 10:28 PM
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posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 10:28 PM
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Originally posted by MatrixBaller04
Who the hell knows if they can or not. have you ever sat down with a young child and asked them if they wanted to have sex and see what they say? No. So how are you so sure?


THat is just sick. I don't have to ask a five year old if they want to do that. I have children. They can barely understand the need to shower at 5 years old, much less HAVE SEX. Disgusting. It's a despical thing when someone can even pretend to believe that children that young should be allowed to have sex, with eachother or with adults. Why, because it "feels good"?



posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by MatrixBaller04
Who the hell knows if they can or not. have you ever sat down with a young child and asked them if they wanted to have sex and see what they say? No. So how are you so sure?


Legally a five year old cannot consent to sex. She committed a crime. End of story.

You scare me.


Did you read the article about researchers saying we need to teach children the pleasures of gay sex as early as 5?


You obviously didn't read the thread here about it.

GBT/b/.


KTK

posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by MatrixBaller04
Who the hell knows if they can or not. have you ever sat down with a young child and asked them if they wanted to have sex and see what they say? No. So how are you so sure?

Did you read the article about researchers saying we need to teach children the pleasures of gay sex as early as 5?

[edit on 19-9-2008 by MatrixBaller04]




your justice system wont protect you for much longer........


be prepared to lose your gonads



posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 10:33 PM
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Alright...Just so we get this clear...I am not condoning having sex with children. I merely stated that maybe it was consentual. I wouldn't know. I don't remeber anything before like 12 years old.

What she did was wrong (she broke the law) so she was punished.

I guess I just see it as unfair that people can get probation for the rape of children, yet this woman gets life in prison for it.

If you're going to have a law like this, make the penalty the same.



posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by MatrixBaller04
Alright...Just so we get this clear...I am not condoning having sex with children. I merely stated that maybe it was consentual. I wouldn't know. I don't remeber anything before like 12 years old.

What she did was wrong (she broke the law) so she was punished.

I guess I just see it as unfair that people can get probation for the rape of children, yet this woman gets life in prison for it.

If you're going to have a law like this, make the penalty the same.


I remember things as far back as two years old. I can tell you I remember QUITE CLEARLY that I was UNABLE to mentally consent to sex.

Besides that, if you've ever MET a child, you should understand this concept. Perhaps though, you should be kept from that happening.



posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 10:37 PM
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Yea, so now that I said maybe it was consentual now everyone is going against me. I'm **SNIP** 19 for christ's sake with absolutely no experience with raising a child. I don't remeber when i was 5, so how am I supposed to know. It was an innocent mistake.

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posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 10:37 PM
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Well, legally speaking, 5 year olds cant give consent. So whether he enjoyed it or not, it was a crime.

She does deserve to pay for the crime, I just dislike double standards.

Justice should be meted out the same despite your social or economic status, despite your skin color or ethnicity, and despite your gender. This sentence just violates my sense of fairness because it was a non-violent crime, and as far as we can tell from the article, a one time event, and she at 21 could not have been a habitual offender, and no one would have given a sentence that long to a male offender for that type of crime.

I googled afterward to try to find a case of a male getting that sort of sentence for the same type of crime and I couldnt. The best I could get was this guy;

www.phillyburbs.com...



Gerald R Bendig, 52, was first convicted of raping a child in Bristol Township in 1973. Then again in 1976. A third child-rape conviction in Lower Bucks followed in 1981, prompting a judge to sentence Bendig to the maximum of 20 years.

It wasn’t enough. Bendig maxed out that sentence in 2001, left prison and moved to Norristown, Montgomery County. In 2006, he raped a 10-year-old boy from an immigrant family.

Bendig was found guilty of that crime in May. And on Wednesday, Montgomery County Judge Steven T. O’Neill said Bendig’s four child-rape convictions were more than adequate for meeting the requirements of Pennsylvania’s “threestrike” law, which allows for life sentences for repeat violent offenders.


Not that there may not be instances out there, but I didnt find them. Maybe they were just quiet and generated no press. There were a couple UK cases, but again like the guy above, they were multiple offenses.

And then there is this guy, from our neighbor Canada;

www.cbc.ca...


A Montreal man convicted of sexually assaulting his young daughter and posting pictures of the crime on the internet has had his prison sentence reduced by the Quebec Court of Appeal.

In a 2-1 ruling on Tuesday, the court ruled the man's crimes were not among the worst sexual assaults ever committed, and agreed to reduce his sentence from 15 years to nine.

"There was no violence, such as gagging, threatening or hitting the child," Judge Lise Côté wrote.


15 years was too harsh for this poor fellow. (/sarcasm) Even though he molested his daughter starting at 2 years old, and continued for 2 years. PLUS he had been in trouble for sexual assault on a child at 17.



posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 10:42 PM
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I think I am the only one to believe the devil has been let loosed for his seven year reign.

The reports keep coming in, the evil and the squalor. I see it. With my own eyes. She will get what is coming to her. A five yr old. I just puked in my mouth a little.





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