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Jordan Maxwell caught on camera secret handshaking, NWO shill?

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posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 07:15 PM
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I just saw a video with Jordan Maxwell secret hand shaking a photografer at a conference in LA May 2008.
42sec into video:
www.jordanmaxwell.com...

Secret handshake, thumb between knuckles of first 2 fingers.
38sec into video:
www.youtube.com...

Bill Cooper apparantly suspected him too...
video.google.com...

It's a fact that NWO "controll both sides" 90% of the time.




posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 08:58 PM
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OMG that was sooo obvious...

She offers her hand out first and it looks like a normal handshake:




Then he goes to reposition the hands:




...makes an eye contact to confirm she understands (she does because she's not moving her hand away):




...then does this kind of a hypnotic suggestion gesture (although she is affixiated to his eyes/face), as if diverging attention:




...and finally we have the completed handshake with identifiable marks:




posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 09:36 PM
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The rabit hole goes real deep, huh?
Christianity debunker and Project Blue Beam promoter.
www.youtube.com...



posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 10:44 PM
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There doesn't look like any doubt in that being a secret/masonic handshake.

Hmm brings new light on Tsarion too, since a lot of people were already suss of him and since he says his mentor is Jordon Maxwell, I don't trust him now.



posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 11:03 PM
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Either this is some kind of a ritualistic handshake, or Jordan is fu*king this woman and is trying to setup a romantic encounter after the reception, you decide?


Sigh, I don't know anymore, Jordan Maxwell seemed like a "nice" guy and so did Michael Tsarion. But there are so many "pros et contras" about them from all sides. We need to look within us instead of outside to answer what is really true and what's not for that very reason.



posted on Sep, 20 2008 @ 02:06 AM
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I am so DREADFULLY UPSET if this is the case...the lovely Jordan Maxwell is a double agent ? I have all his DVD'S and thought he was such a great revealing force against the ideas of the iluminati. Not to mention his wonderful deep voice! I was a fan!!! I am SO upset I have developed a whole new nervous system since reading this.
I don't trust any conspiracy theorist anymore...

A sad day for Jordan Maxwell fans... Unless he explains himself. Could it be that this woman asked him what a masonic handshake is like and he showed her? You don't have to be illuminati to know it, you can google it and he has studied that stuff extensively. JORDAN PLEASE EXPLAIN, I DON'T WANT TO LET GO!



posted on Sep, 20 2008 @ 03:41 AM
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lol, this was bound to happen one day!!!

By his own logic, he is surely part of the shadow government.

Now, if somebody can catch Texe Marrs doing one of these "secret handshakes", maybe we can stop hearing about this secret handshake non-sense?

It amazes me how these two clowns see masonic handshakes and symbols everywhere they look.

Has Jordan officially responded to this yet?



posted on Sep, 20 2008 @ 08:44 AM
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well each have knowledge to teach and have done so. and like any good student should - expand upon the teachers knowledge and progress -
all knowledge has errors inherent, simply because we are human and are not perfect. but handshake is cause for alarm and trust issues...

I for one seek extraordinary knowledge and have obtained quite a bit from teachers such as these.... so I personally take offense to your damnation of these teachers on such flimsy evidence ... thank you



posted on Sep, 20 2008 @ 08:59 AM
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Good post, and yes, it could be a communicative handshake. It could be meant to communicate something, yes.

But I think there's a flaw in the logic which says, Maxwell and Tsarion have higher connections, so they are evil. I for one can accept that both of these great thinkers DO have connections, but to the GOOD side of the power structure.

Inside masonry and other groups, there are internal, invisible battles. Just like in the movie "The Skulls" where you've got two elite sides actually engaged in an underground war right under the noses of "reg'lar folks".

Didn't Moses/Akhenaten use the original "masons" to build the first temple of Solomon (Amenhotep III) at Amarna? In my opinion there are still good elements within the secret societies, that are ready to cleanse their own groups. I do not think all of them are evil.

We have to start seeing every issue as more complicated than it appears on the outside. It is not enough to listen to these men and then write them off if you see something which says they are plugged in at higher levels. Surely there will be a war within masonry once the Luciferian aspect is revealed to the sheep, as Pike has designed it to do. I expect there'll be more truth then about how others had infiltrated and made moves prior to that moment.

I like Jordan, and I like Tsarion, and the truth they are sharing is very real. As for having a connection to the groups who know the truth about the truths (i.e. Moses being Akhenaten, etc) I cannot make judgements because I am on the outside and do not have enough information.



posted on Nov, 10 2008 @ 05:50 PM
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Spend some time on Tsarion's forum. You will realize he is a very negative guy. He allows pro pedophile rhetoric as well and deletes people who question him. It was very eye opening indeed.
I think the pictures of Jordan Maxwell with George Lucas and Michael Eisner give me the willies. I think both these guys are fronts for a FACTION of illuminati that is kinder and gentler. Tsarion is basically an admitted Rosicrucian and espouses much of their doctrines. Both of them delivering truthful info, yet lies creep in and get buried in there.
I for one just want to know why Jordan is so "poor". I don't BUY IT.



posted on Nov, 10 2008 @ 07:55 PM
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nope... sorry gang; I need more proof than this; Jordan goes way to deep with his expose on the power structures and ancient secrets to be tolerated as an insider; I don't buy it; that handshake doesn't mean anything; he was just giving this attractive young lady a gentle, if not slightly flirtatious 2-handed grab; when we catch him shaking hands in such a way with George Lucas, then I might consider it evidence..



posted on Nov, 10 2008 @ 09:00 PM
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Well, when I read this earlier today I thought 'No Way Dude!'

But now I've spent some time thinking about it, the more sense it makes..

I heard somewhere that some of those highly esotheric cults think they can do whatever they want to, as long as they publish something that gives away their plans.

Plus creating an aura of might around them.. so nobody'd get it in his head to try doing something positive to turn things around, just because the nature and size of the beast sinks in and totally dwarfs any individual or even a mob.. in which case you'd need to be paranoid again thinking your 'brothers in arms' might have sold out and took the other pill..

That'd make Jordan.. what.. an Apostle to the Illuminatic Deity ?

Even still, it's impossible not to become intrigued by what he has to say, like for instance when he talks about the corellations between the ancient past and contemporary business.

Starred and flagged, I'd like to see this to the bottom!



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by Anonywus ATS
Spend some time on Tsarion's forum. You will realize he is a very negative guy. He allows pro pedophile rhetoric as well and deletes people who question him. It was very eye opening indeed.

Well, I like that he is speaking truth, which is otherwise not bein discussed. Not sure about the other stuff you mentioned but his forum is lame, I agree totally.

Hey look, I listened to a lot of Michael Tsarion and I think he's at least 95% truth, and as far as him being involved in any secret group, my answer is this: How do any of us know that any of us are not each involved with some secret group? Really, all you can do is try to talk these morons into dissolving their secret groups. And the proof is in this pudding: Are they talking truth? Are they revealing knowledge which is otherwise not being talked about? In Tsarion and Maxwell's case, the answer is yes. In the other 97% of "scholars" the answer is no.

Not saying I like the guy, because he does seem like a smartass, but then, so am I, so I have to respect that quality in others. I challenged him once on his blog and his reply was pathetic, but I still kinda respect him because nobody else is drawing together the threads quite as well as him.



I think the pictures of Jordan Maxwell with George Lucas and Michael Eisner give me the willies. I think both these guys are fronts for a FACTION of illuminati that is kinder and gentler. Tsarion is basically an admitted Rosicrucian and espouses much of their doctrines. Both of them delivering truthful info, yet lies creep in and get buried in there.
I for one just want to know why Jordan is so "poor". I don't BUY IT.

Lucas and Eisner are rich and powerful. Jordan Maxwell is not, and that is because he never went to busines school or wrote star wars.

Rosicrcians have some interesting truths associated with them. What lies "creep in"?

You are making accusations about two people who are trying to go against the force of the whole intellectual tide (paid and bribed media) and I for one enjoy listening to them and I think they are both way, way smarter then most people here.

Surely you got something better to do than to make life harder for these two self-supporting scholars? Okay, I guess they are both smart enough to totally lie to the world and be two-faced like you are suggesting, but I do not sense such lies in their voices, and I have listened to both.



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 04:44 AM
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Jordan Maxwell (Jordanus Maximus) goal is mostly pushing astrotheology. He gets angry about people 'stealing his work', but all he is doing most of the time is regurgitating Blavatsky. He also has stated that he was in a sub-branch of the Masons, I forget it's name. Personally I don't buy the whole Mason conspiracy as such, although I have seen of cases of 'rogue lodges' and the like.



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 11:03 PM
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Originally posted by Anonywus ATS
Jordan Maxwell (Jordanus Maximus) goal is mostly pushing astrotheology. He gets angry about people 'stealing his work', but all he is doing most of the time is regurgitating Blavatsky.


Well look now, if he was connected to anything powerful or any group wanting to promote their ideas, wouldn't Maxwell's website be more impressive? It is not. So what you have there is a compete gulf between what the person knows, and what they can do on the www. Are you saying that he is connected and purposefully keeps his website lame? Seems far-fetched to me.

What's the big deal about barfing Blatavasky? I like her writings and they do reveal certain things. Any truth is better than a vacuum, I always say.




He also has stated that he was in a sub-branch of the Masons, I forget it's name. Personally I don't buy the whole Mason conspiracy as such, although I have seen of cases of 'rogue lodges' and the like.


A sub-branch of the Masons? How the hell do they have TWO sub-branches? Even just one submarine alone cost billions of dollars!

Seriously tho', you have "seen cases of rogue lodges?" If they've gone rogue, shouldn't they be hunted down and killed? Or maybe the dialectic is in effect, and the "rogue" is the other side of the pincers?

...You know what's funny about anonymous posting at ATS? It's gotta get approved by a mod to get posted... But what I think is that they should be way more strict with people like you, who claim to have power, and to have "seen" things, and who are posting from behind a curtain.



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 11:08 PM
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Thats was cool how did you take those pics of the vid? A regular cam?



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 11:45 PM
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I never said he was connected to anything powerful, astrotheology is basically a fringe religion, it has no real power, just a few books that are laughed at by mainstream historians or theologians, because they have no sources at all for the majority of their claims.

When I say 'sub-branches', perhaps the correct term would be 'order'. If you want to hear him talking about this order he was a member of, listen to his last interviews on Alex Jones.

When I talk of 'rogue lodges', I'm talking of those like Propaganda Due, and some local lodges that have been found to be doing things like fixing bids for government contracts. They are considered rogue by normal masons, as you aren't supposed to use your lodge in such a way.



posted on Nov, 15 2008 @ 12:07 AM
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Originally posted by king Pop!p
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Thats was cool how did you take those pics of the vid? A regular cam?



Those were screen grabs, I used VirtualDub to process the video and then captured the VDub window with Alt+PrtScn then cropped the edges in Photoshop.

It's just one way of doing it, I'm sure there are other ways. Probably won't work doing it using Media Player because it uses an overlay window or something of sorts and all you get when you do PrtScn is a black box.

Perhaps VLC would work if you don't want to mess with VDub....



posted on Nov, 15 2008 @ 12:14 AM
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Another thread that is supposed to be obviously a picture of a eil handshake.
Seriously, how do you judge this?
I've shaken plenty of folks hands over the years, and many folks have a different shake. Two handed, one handed, one then two handed, ect.
What makes you sure this is a evil handshake, 'cause it looks weird?



posted on Nov, 18 2008 @ 07:02 AM
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It's not normal to grab someone's hand to reset it, so you can shake it differently than normal.

Nice exposing.. but still.. what does it mean?




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