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The world is NOT going down at 2012


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Topic started on 19-9-2008 @ 01:53 PM by Spooky Fox Mulder


Now, forgive me if I am some pessimistic, old, grumpy agent - but after seeing yet another Oh-Noes-The-World-Is-Going-Down-In-2012 !!! website, I have just had about quite enough, thank you very much.

2012 has become pop culture. It's only the matter of time before some major Hollywood producer will announce another crappy blockbuster 2012 movie.

It's not long before Dan Brown will come up with a 2012 bestseller.

It's not long before Paris Hilton herself will start mentioning her views on 2012 to the media.


Wake up, people. Please.


The world is not going down on december 12th, 2012.

The world will go on, as it always does.

Can't you realize that it's just another hype, much like Y2K, etc, etc.

We humans always need to believe in something, some End Of Days scenario, so it will bring at least some amusement to our miserable lives. So someone will come and save us from ourselves.

Well, I am speaking of reason. No one, no higher power no divine intervention is going to save us. We are going to save ourselves. Us.

Do you really believe that you are so powerless that you need someone or some higher power to save you?

Do you really believe that you need some event like the End Of The World to give meaning to your life?

Well, I am talking reason again.

You have all the power and all the knowledge to start living your lives right now and to create your own future.

You don't have to depend on any Doomsday Prophecies, Saviors or Messiahs.

You can make your own future, starting right here and right now.

This is no religion, no Illuminati or any secret societies talking to you.

This is common sense.

I beg you to wake up. Start living your lives and stop wasting your time with some prophecies that will never come true.

You exist and you strive and you love and you cry and you laugh and you run around and you sleep and you build things and you have sex and then you die, not to sound too depressing, the world is wiped clean of your biological presence. Which, from my perspective, makes your brief biological time here all more precious due to it's relative brevity.





But then again, I'm just an old, grumpy agent.











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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 01:59 PM by blupblup


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I agree with you.

The movie making has already started and it's only going to get worse





www.vidics.com...


www.imdb.com...



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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 02:01 PM by Benarius


I completely agree with all you say. Please read my thread "Predictions almost never come true"

Good luck to you



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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 02:03 PM by moonrat


Yes, I agree. It's all a crock of #.

I mean, 2012. It's just a number.

If the world was going to end, why would it pick a date from the calender that we just happen to be using now?

Why wouldn't it end, in say for arguments sake, 4 billion years after it appeared?

... 4,000,000,000 AE.

Where AE = after Earth.



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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 03:13 PM by vasaga


*Sigh*. Most people who say the world is gonna end in 2012 actually know very little about it. Ok, i don't know everything, but at least i know that we're gonna end a big galactic cicle. That's it. Nothing less, nothing more. Whatever the case, the world will not explode or anything. There might be some changes in nature, the sun has been acting weird lately, hurricanes have become more violent and more of those "minor" stuff. Since we're ending a galactic cicle (according to the Mayans that is..) there might be some intangible changes. Maybe in our consciousness, since we share a pulse with the planet and the solar system. But it's definetely not the end of the world.. More like, the new beginning..



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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 03:32 PM by Incarnated


You are all so very much wrong. However, maybe it is best for you all just to believe as you are now. There's nothing you can do about it. There's nothing you'd want to do about it if you could. That's why it happens.

You have to understand the origin of the word world.

World dosen't discribe "Planet". A World Map isn't a map of the planet's geography. A "World" is the way mankind has built towers to mark kingdoms and nations upon the land. There have been many "Worlds", and they have fallen in this cycled event.

Just the smallest understanding in basic sciences shows, that even if your WRONG use of the word "WORLD" was correct, you'd still be WRONG because it's scientifical understood that its just a matter of time before that type world "dies". So you saying it will go on like it always will or has is WRONG.


""
In English, world may be parsed as rooted in a compound of the obsolete words were, "man", and eld, "age"; thus, its etymology may be semantically rendered as "age or life of man
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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 03:32 PM by Benarius


The sun has been acting weird lately ???

A very broad statement. No matter how old you are, 15 or 50...you're age in 4 Billion years...lets say 30/4'000'000'000...it's like a drop in the ocean. How would you know how the sun acted in 3'999'999'970 out of 4'000'000'000 years. No offence intended. Just like to point out what you said you seem to know.

Good luck to you.



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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 04:42 PM by vasaga


Originally posted by Benarius
The sun has been acting weird lately ???

A very broad statement. No matter how old you are, 15 or 50...you're age in 4 Billion years...lets say 30/4'000'000'000...it's like a drop in the ocean. How would you know how the sun acted in 3'999'999'970 out of 4'000'000'000 years. No offence intended. Just like to point out what you said you seem to know.

Good luck to you.
Well, it's nothing they have achknowledged in the past 'few' years if that's what you mean. Sure, the sun probably did act like this before in a certain period, and we probably weren't around to observe it, so it's new to us now. But they don't predict anything drastic. Here's an interesting thing about the sun..

www.sciencedaily.com...

Read the whole thing, and uh, this part is kinda interesting:

The last cycle reached its peak in 2001 and is believed to be just ending now, Longcope said. The next cycle is just beginning and is expected to reach its peak sometime around 2012. Today's sun, however, is as inactive as it was two years ago, and scientists aren't sure why.



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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 06:22 PM by Spooky Fox Mulder


Originally posted by Incarnated
You are all so very much wrong. However, maybe it is best for you all just to believe as you are now. There's nothing you can do about it. There's nothing you'd want to do about it if you could. That's why it happens.




You did not read what I wrote, didn't you, Incarnated.

I wrote that the world is not going down in 2012.


But I didn't write that there won't be any change in 2012.






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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 06:42 PM by Benarius


Thanks for the article. Here is something in return.

www.abovetopsecret.com...'



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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 11:55 PM by Incarnated


Originally posted by Spooky Fox Mulder
Originally posted by Incarnated
You are all so very much wrong. However, maybe it is best for you all just to believe as you are now. There's nothing you can do about it. There's nothing you'd want to do about it if you could. That's why it happens.




You did not read what I wrote, didn't you, Incarnated.

I wrote that the world is not going down in 2012.


But I didn't write that there won't be any change in 2012.






I did read some but mostly my responce was to the hoards of others that jumped onto the first part as if you were saying nothing was going to happen.

I'll have to go back and re read



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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 11:59 PM by Incarnated


Originally posted by Spooky Fox Mulder
You did not read what I wrote, didn't you, Incarnated.



I've reread, and I could fine error in your words. The words you've chosen could be read several ways so they are not so much "wrong" as unclear and associtively wrong through perceptions personalize by the reader.

Prophecy has and is coming to pass.



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reply posted on 20-9-2008 @ 12:04 AM by JaxonRoberts


Originally posted by Spooky Fox Mulder

It's not long before Paris Hilton herself will start mentioning her views on 2012 to the media.

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I can hear her now! "2012, that's hot!"

Crap, now I owe her $5!

Remember, Mulder, the Truth is out there!

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reply posted on 20-9-2008 @ 12:09 AM by JaxonRoberts


Originally posted by moonrat

If the world was going to end, why would it pick a date from the calender that we just happen to be using now?


OK, the 2012 predictions have nothing to do with the Gregorian calendar, that's just the date they fall on.



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reply posted on 20-9-2008 @ 12:12 AM by JaxonRoberts


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Actually, we are aproaching the climax of the 22 year cycle of solar activity, which is supposed to peak in 2012.



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reply posted on 20-9-2008 @ 12:15 AM by PontiacWarrior


Why is this even in Predictions & Prophecies, when its just the OP grumpy opinion? Anyways, who is to know what is to come before and after 2012? Only one way to find out eh? Anyways, some part of me feels something is close at hand, who where what? I cannot say, but meaningful, life shattering events are coming.



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reply posted on 20-9-2008 @ 12:17 AM by JaxonRoberts


Originally posted by PontiacWarrior
Why is this even in Predictions & Prophecies, when its just the OP grumpy opinion? Anyways, who is to know what is to come before and after 2012? Only one way to find out eh? Anyways, some part of me feels something is close at hand, who where what? I cannot say, but meaningful, life shattering events are coming.


The Age of Aquarius maybe?



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reply posted on 20-9-2008 @ 01:29 AM by Incarnated


Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
The Age of Aquarius maybe?


These are all known things if one's only willing to do a little researching and a little inner searching of understandings.

The Zodical Ages, are quite like our yearly sun signs. I was born later in September and this makes me a Libra. We have 12 signs a year. This is based within a 360 degree circle. The measurement for each sign can be counted by understanding what degree the sun is in.

We move through 12 signs a year. The same holds true for "Ages". The Age is only the zodiac sign within the "GREAT YEAR". A great year is about 26000 of our planet's years, rounded up, and we move through the 12 signs in that 26k years.

With a little bit of math one finds that a "AGE" therefore lasts about 2150 years. We are in fact going into the "age of aquarius", but that's like a month in a year.

We are also changing the "season" of the "Great Year". A season just like in our planet's year is 4 seasons a year, and each season has 3 months in it. Unlike our earth year seasons in a great year can't be measured in "winter-spring-summer-fall"...

All this stuff is knowable, if one is only willing to research it or read a book.

Oh yeah, and 2012 is a major time period. It's just known fact.



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reply posted on 20-9-2008 @ 01:34 AM by Benarius


Ok. I get it now.

2012 - 22 = 1990.

Now I remember. We got wiped off the planet and this is all just an illusion.



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reply posted on 20-9-2008 @ 01:37 AM by JaxonRoberts


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I hope that wasn't for my benefit, as I have about three shelves of books on astrology! Eloquently said, though!

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