How does someone mentioning a black hole merit derailing a thread about solar winds causing an ice age?


How about we get back on the subject here. This thread may be about the most significant event in your life. The governments may tax people for not polluting enough in the near future. Dirty burning coal may be a prized fuel source, and people jailed for filtering the smoke!

[edit on 20-9-2008 by Cyberbian]

Hi There,

SideWynder:

...y'all should know by now that the SUN has absolutely no influence on the Earth whatsoever at all!!!

What an incredibly daft statement! I had to read this poster's post twice to discern if it contained any credibility at all behind its incomparable ignorance. Earth's climate is directly linked to the suns's output. The earth's positional orbit and distance from the sun is equally a criterion of immense importance, especially for all life forms.
Think of it this way. The closer one gets to a blazing coal fire, the warmer one is, the further away, the colder one is. The hotter the coal fire burns the warmer the climate in the room, and should the fire become small or even go out, the room goes cold. It's that simple.

With the sun, the interconnecting variables that affect each other are somewhat more complicated than a coal fire. Radiation from the sun which the earth receives drives many of the earths climate mechanisms. Indications are that the earth may experience a temporary lessening in solar output, and it is the length of 'temporary' that bears an important value to earth's climate.
Adjustments may be small, but the scale on which they will happen will make the effects seem amplified. A degree or two less in solar output, could on a planet's scale, mechanize a mini ice-age. Equally, atmospheric effects may cause detrimental effects for life on earth.

Earth's ability to host life in all its diversity is based on a consistent stability within a narrow band of interconnected variables. If one or more of those variables should weaken or disappear, that 'hole' has to be filled by some other mechanism; such an adjustment may not be beneficial to many life forms, including ourselves. However, we are quite an adaptable organism, so as long as we are able to maintain minimal environmental requirements for life to continue, we should survive.

The earth's climate has (and is) changing, and it isn't simply down to man's output of waste products. In fact, I would say rather than man causing climate change to occur...he hasn't, but he has contributed to it on a effective scale over many years since the beginning of the industrial revolution some 300 years ago. His contribution has been small, but significant enough to accumulate incrementally over the years to eventually help tip the scales of stability with other natural processes by which climate mechanisms operate. Any lessening in solar output upon the earth holds a far greater significance and impact. When we speak of climate change (which is a daily reality) we have to factor in many of the variables that contribute to the change...those that weaken or disappear, and those that take their place.

The most significant aspect of climate change, however, is the scale and the speed at which it occurs. Changes occurring over a few weeks are far more damaging than those that take years to do so, because it does not allow us time to prepare or adapt quickly enough. These are the immediate concerns we should be looking at regarding climate change...the longer term issues can be tackled accordingly (that is to say, if we are able to tackle the concern at the scale at which it is occurring?).

[edit on 20/9/08 by elysiumfire]

all blackholes, at least super massive ones, used to be stars.

kinda weird huh, our sun might someday become a black hole.

and we will finally have our Oneness .. literally, with all the matter of our solar system, planet, and all the people who have ever lived, all smushed together into a singularity in the center of that black hole which used to be the sun, lol.

then maybe it reaches critical levels of matter, and explodes outward, causing the creation of a new galaxy!

Originally posted by Cyberbian
How does someone mentioning a black hole merit derailing a thread about solar winds causing an ice age?

[edit on 20-9-2008 by Cyberbian]

And for the record, the thread is about NASA's announcement that it is going to have a news conference about conditions on and surrounding the Sun, and nothing about an Ice Age!

I live in Arozona...

Mini ace age sounds rather nice

for me

Cyberbian

I came to the conclusion that it was sarcastic!

Oh yes...how silly of me, it was rather humorous, he he! Just what we need to lighten the place up dont'cha think? My mistake...

Originally posted by welivefortheson
one interesting affect of the solar wind is that it strengthens the earths magnetosphere-the shield we have against dangerous radiation.
the solar wind does this by creating additional charge when the plamsa collides with the magnetosphere thus strengthning it.

thus this may be a factor in why the magnetosphere is so weak at the moment.

This is what I said in a thread several months back and I was riddickculed for it. I said the current chemtrail program is nothing but a scientific study to see if we can artificially shield the earth from the radiation that will increase exponentially from the sun. What? You thought they were drugging us or doing shady things, (I made a punny)...No it is an effort to try to keep our asses safe from the increasing radiation getting through.



[edit on 20-9-2008 by TH3ON3]

We have been monitoring this for how many years now?

How old is the sun?

Big difference. Humans are a single frame in a 3 dvd set

If ya get what I mean...

So NASA's satellite is telling us that the sun's energy is at a 50 year low.
What satellite went there 50 years ago to set the benchmark? I think
this world has deteriorated into press conferences and press releases
that come so frequently, 90% don't say much at all that's newsworthy.

Originally posted by carewemust
So NASA's satellite is telling us that the sun's energy is at a 50 year low.
What satellite went there 50 years ago to set the benchmark? I think
this world has deteriorated into press conferences and press releases
that come so frequently, 90% don't say much at all that's newsworthy.

Agreed, how did they come to that conclusion? That statement must be considered highly suspect.

It will be interesting to hear what NASA has to say on the subject.