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Topic started on 19-9-2008 @ 12:11 PM by jwstarry
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NASA to Discuss Conditions on and Surrounding the Sun
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 WASHINGTON, Sept. 18 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- NASA will hold a media
teleconference Tuesday, Sept. 23, at 12:30 p.m. EDT, to discuss data from
the joint NASA and European Space Agency Ulysses mission that reveals the
sun's solar wind is at a 50-year low. The sun's current state could result
in changing conditions in the solar system.
Ulysses was the first mission to survey the space environment above and
below the poles of the sun. The reams of data Ulysses returned have changed
forever the way scientists view our star and its effects. The venerable
spacecraft has lasted more than 17 years -- almost four times its expected
mission lifetime (visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 12:11 PM by jwstarry
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I am very interested in what they have to say but being NASA if it was bad news, do you really think we will get the whole story? I have always
believed that the sun has a major impact on Earth and if the Sun is going through major changes, is it not fair to assume that majors changes are in
store for Earth?
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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 12:47 PM by welivefortheson
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one interesting affect of the solar wind is that it strengthens the earths magnetosphere-the shield we have against dangerous radiation.
the solar wind does this by creating additional charge when the plamsa collides with the magnetosphere thus strengthning it.
thus this may be a factor in why the magnetosphere is so weak at the moment.
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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 12:53 PM by Amaterasu
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Well, I know the fact that there have been zero sunspots for over a month may be discussed.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Given the last time this happened we saw the Mini Ice Age... Things may take a turn for the cooler 'round these parts, eh?
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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 02:09 PM by welivefortheson
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here is some interesting facts...
December 13, 2004 ‘Ultrasound’ May Explain Solar Weather Mystery
Astronomers have identified ultrasoundlike waves in our sun’s atmosphere that could explain some strange aspects of solar weather. An analysis of
data from NASA’s TRACE spacecraft published in the current issue of Astrophysical Journal Letters suggests that the waves could be responsible for
the star’s unexplained extra heat.The surface of the sun reaches a blistering 6,000 degrees Celsius. The chromosphere, or middle solar atmosphere,
is even more scorching at 100,000 degrees Celsius, whereas the solar corona is the hottest part of all, with temperatures nearing a million degrees
Celsius. Just what causes these wide discrepancies in temperature has intrigued researchers for decades. Craig DeForest of the Southwest Research
Institute and his colleagues analyzed data from the TRACE ultraviolet telescope and found evidence of waves with a frequency of 100 millihertz, which
corresponds to a sound 300 times deeper than the lowest noise audible to the human ear. “These ripples seem to be carrying about one kilowatt of
power per square meter on the surface of the sun,” says DeForest. “That is similar to the sonic energy you might find coming out of the speakers
at a rock concert. “The researchers did not get a very detailed look at the waves, because they are close to TRACE’s detection limit. They expect
that future instruments will allow them to investigate the waves more fully. “By examining these waves more closely, we should be able to discern
the source of energy release in the solar atmosphere, just like you can tell by listening whether the car is running in a dark garage,” says
DeForest. “In both cases, something is releasing energy into the environment, and that release has a recognizable sonic signature.” — Sarah
Graham
Now, in a letter published on December 10th in Astrophysical Journal Letters, researchers report that the Sun's atmosphere is filled with
ultrasound-like waves at a frequency of about 100 millihertz - every ten seconds. "At 10-second period, these waves qualify as ultrasound because
individual atoms on the Sun experience only a few collisions during the brief passage of each wave, just as with ultrasound here on Earth," says Dr.
Craig DeForest, a senior research scientist in the SwRI Space Science and Engineering Division. DeForest found the signature in data collected in
January 2003 in the TRACE program.
www.space.com...
so it is possible to manipulate the parameters of the sun with ultrasound that is hard to detect with current technology.
thus it also possible by those who have the capability to ,to control the output of the sun(hotter or colder) with ultrasound we find hard to detect
without creating technology designed just for that purpose.
and we have ultrasound waves permeating the sun in regular intervals of ten seconds.....kinda regular isnt it?.
ive heard reports that the solar system as a whole has been heating up in a way that cannot be explained,not just earth,could this be artificial
induced by ultra sound solar manipulation?
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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 02:48 PM by pityocamptes
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HAHAHAHA, ten bucks they realize something BIG is happening. They have known about it for quite a long time. Why else would you party like its 1999 in
the financials.
I'm saying it now, and you can hold me to it:
Something f@cking big is coming, and they have known about it, and continuity of government DOES NOT include the masses. Hell for all I know the
"Gods" are really coming back... as mother shipton and others have spoken about...
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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 03:13 PM by MrVertigo
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In any case it looks like the whole global warming thing is about to go quietly into the night.
I find it really fascinating that the current solar cycle seems to be on hold.
It's maximum was supposed to be around 2012, but now it's almost like the sun is holding its breath...
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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 03:46 PM by FiatLux
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It puts me in the mind of a baby just before birth. It`s very very active up to the time of birth, then all at once, it gets real still. It makes one
wonder what the next process is.
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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 05:16 PM by CreeWolf
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reply to post by MrVertigo
The alarmists no longer refer to it as "Global Warming". Now its called "Climate Change" because that better covers all the bases. Climate
Change--duh! The Earth's climate is ALWAYS CHANGING as it ALWAYS HAS!
I see this as nothing but a progression to a different part of a natural cycle. Nobody has proof otherwise. Say, this is a 500 year pattern. Did we
have the instruments and knowledge we have now--500 years ago? No. Science is never as smart as it thinks it is....
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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 05:43 PM by SevenThunders
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Soon they will be telling us how mankind has caused the sun to change. After this they will have to ration sunlight. It is clearly Bush's fault.
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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 06:34 PM by Benarius
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Now this turns the 'global warming myth' into the 'climate change reality'. How convinient. CreeWolf !!! You are not wrong there. If the suns heat
can be measured with sound detectors (microphones) then maybe it's possible that if we create sound waves (speakers) on earth they can influence the
suns heat. Maybe our technology does interfere with the sun. Anyone up to study this closer. A paper called "How man manipultes the elctromagnetic
spectrum on earth to influence the sun"
I think we should seriously look into this. Chaos Theory ? Butterfly and Monsun anology ?
Scary &%#@ if you ask me.
Good luck to you all.
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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 06:56 PM by Benarius
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I actuall wante to go to bed now, but I need to get this qustions of my chest first.
1. Am I nuts ? (self-explanatory when reading the following questions)
2. Does the manipulated electromagnetic spectrum influence the sun ?
3. Do satellites send out signals to the sun as well ?
4. Are these signals strong enough ?
5. Is there an amplifying factor we need to take into consideration in space ?
6. If we could regulate the sun to regulate climate on earth, should we ?
7, Can I go to bed now and you tell me by tomorrow that the answer to question 1 is yes and I am banned from ATS for insanity ?
Good luck to you all
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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 07:55 PM by sty
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well.. 90% of the history of the Earth was ice Age, and 10% warm periods like the one that started our civilization. So there is a possibility we are
heading for the next ice age - this would mean survival not possible in the temperate/cold actual regions
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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 11:30 PM by ghaleon12
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Considering the sun send out the equivolent of like 1 billion nukes a second, I don't think you have to worry about satelites having any sort of
effect on the sun.
It seems to be only me, but I've been pretty concerned over the past year that the sunspots haven't started up again. With the peak in 2011 or
2012, there really should be more sunspots. The marander minimum, whatever it is called, was marked by low sunspot activity which is sort of
interesting...
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reply posted on 20-9-2008 @ 12:16 AM by space cadet
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reply to post by jwstarry
Good find, I agree that it may be something 'big' on the horizon. But for us, something big going on with the sun could be our demise, so I really
can't say that I am looking forward to the annoucement of what it is. Keep us posted though. Star for you!
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reply posted on 20-9-2008 @ 12:17 AM by Reddupo
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I like the cold, and despise the summer.
Is solar-wind the same as the solar flare cycle that is supposed to peak at 2012-2010?
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reply posted on 20-9-2008 @ 12:37 AM by JaxonRoberts
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Scarily, this reminds me of the old saying, 'The calm before the storm!'
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reply posted on 20-9-2008 @ 12:41 AM by Phage
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Originally posted by ghaleon12
It seems to be only me, but I've been pretty concerned over the past year that the sunspots haven't started up again. With the peak in 2011 or
2012, there really should be more sunspots. The marander minimum, whatever it is called, was marked by low sunspot activity which is sort of
interesting...
Fear not! All is as it should be (more or less).
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reply posted on 20-9-2008 @ 02:19 AM by SideWynder
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Awww heck, y'all should know by now that the SUN has absolutely no influence on the Earth whatsoever at all!!!
But the United States of America, with all its SUVs and wastefullness, and the Bush Administration.. is the cause of all the "Global Climate
Changes" that are currently happening... This has been "proven" without a doubt by a "scientific concensious"
So even though there is basically no sun spot activities, and a lack of solar winds. This has absolutely no impact on the earth at all..
However, the fact that the U.S.A. is still using so much fossil fuels, and SUVs, and Bush is still in the White House, This is probably contributing
to the suns lack of activity..
So the best option to fix this, Is to have a solar flare and solar wind "offset" So I am willing to accept your donations to "offset" theese
problems by starting up a program that will "borrow" Solar flares from the nearest sun, "other than our SOL" for a nominal fee... (same goes for
the solar winds)
Also I will trade our deficet to other "hyperactive" solar systems for a small fee, sort of like the Carbon credit Scheme that is currently under
progress...
Anyway thank you (OP) for bringing this news to us all, I find it very interesting and frightening at the same time.. (not to mention possibly
financially profitable)...... LOL
[edit on 20-9-2008 by SideWynder]
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reply posted on 20-9-2008 @ 08:20 AM by tide88
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Did any of you see the report from the farmers almanac. It is saying we are going into a 50 year cooling period. It is supposed to be one of the
worst winters ever recorded in the NE. The reason they give is solar activity will be down. Wonder is this has to do with solar winds too. And yes
it is climate change, not global warming. At least not global warming caused by us. Of course we still should cut emissions and try to not pollute
the earth. I for one do not want to breathe in all this pollution. However, humans have nothing to do with the change in temperature. It is all
cyclical. We all know Global Warming is a hundreds of billions of dollar business. It is probably second to the oil industry. Think of all the jobs
or money lost if global warming was proven to be false.
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