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secret door in the side of a mountain, we peeked inside

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posted on Sep, 21 2008 @ 12:45 PM
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Regarding TLD's see this link:

dosimeters

I can't say for certain the tailings piles by the side of the road use TLDs or film dosimeters, but TLD is the more modern way radioactive dose is measured.

Regarding all the negativity by posters in this thread, I'm not going to bash you for calling it a secret, though probably it is not a high level secret. Often governments use this old bunkers for document storage, or more correctly, off-site document storage. The cave like atmosphere keeps a uniform temperature. Bins can seal against moisture, plus it's only backup data. That is, you routinely replace the old data with more current backups. Near the Tonopah Speedway, there are old bunkers dating back to when the Army occupied the land. The state of Nevada keeps backup data in these bunkers. They are fenced but not guarded. I assume the data is on digital media and encrypted.

Regarding poking around mines, I suggest doing so carefully. One thing don't do is drive right up to the mine. I have seen one case where the mine goes under the road, so I assume it is only supported by rotting timbers. The spot I found is on the way to the viewing locations for the Tonopah Test Range. I saw the white PVC claim marker and figured I'd look at the mine. I didn't drive on the road, but just left my SUV on the main dirt road. While walking up to the mine opening, I saw a small hole in the dirt. I poked at the hole with a stick, and it got bigger. I dropped a small rock down the hole and it took a few seconds to hit bottom. That is how I figured out the idiots dug right under the road. I;ve heard stories of very deep mine shaft openings not having any fencing around them. Really, you should be very cautious looking at an old mine, or just plain stay away.

One thing to avoid is any pit with liquid in it, or looks like it used to contain liquid. If the mine was used for gold, these pits have traces of cyanide. Due to genetics, not everyone can smell cyanide.




posted on Sep, 21 2008 @ 12:47 PM
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Anyways, back on topic. I found this picture of the area - can you point out on this pic the approximate spot for this "door"?




The picture in question is unfamiliar to me, and i did go there at night. The GPS coordinates I gave are 100% solid and will not mislead anyone. Also there is a recently built bridge there as well that i do not see in the picture. The road itself is a dead end, once you turn around and head towards the new bridge, about 150-200 yards from the dead end on your right side you will see the door, it is camoflaged the same color as the bluff.



posted on Sep, 21 2008 @ 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by hiii_98
...you will see the door, it is camoflaged the same color as the bluff


That's what makes it suspicious IMO. If it was just something ordinary, there would be no need to camoflage it. It's camoflaged to try and prevent people from discovering it.



posted on Sep, 21 2008 @ 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by hiii_98
The picture in question is unfamiliar to me, and i did go there at night. The GPS coordinates I gave are 100% solid and will not mislead anyone.


Well, if your coordinates are correct, they correspond to the circled area in the photo below:




posted on Sep, 21 2008 @ 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by ANNED


This is what i found by entering into google "moab utah mines" and checking it to the coordanents you gave. 38.605205,-109.572895

That is part of the old Atlas Mine and Mill.
Why would you want to glow in the dark.
The area is part of a toxic Superfund site.

38.60224931199438, -109.59239959716797
this is the coordanents of the old atlas uranium mill and the toxic Superfund site.
terraserver-usa.com...
www.wise-uranium.org...
you were about 500 feet away and on the old mine property.


This is EXACTLY where my mind went in reading your post......just on the other side of the bridge there is THE superfund site.....for years thats the place they 'did whatever they DO' to the uranium .........I am SURE you found the opening to a closed mine and its still storing chemicals.
THere are MORE than just this one old metal door on the river road......going in the opposite direction you find a LARGE blasted out cave that was used for years as a chicken farm....(the poor things were kept in the dark in caged stacked on top of each other)...which is NOW some hippie's private cave house.....

about 15 years ago...RIGHT in the area your discussing was a guy set up in the biz of renting ski do's to ride on the river.....right NEAR the door you found was his temporary 'office yurt'...MAYBE he was storing things in the cave? I doubt that however......I am so positive this is an old mining storage site its not even a curiosity to me.



posted on Sep, 21 2008 @ 04:48 PM
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38.604639 -109.602728
On this side of the site was where I saw the TLD or film dosimeter hanging from the fence. Now not at that particular location, but along that side of the fence.



posted on Sep, 21 2008 @ 05:37 PM
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posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 09:33 AM
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so is anyone planning on making a trip out there (with some cutting torch?) or a flare and a small camera? Its too bad this might not be followed up on. Whatever was inside sure was odd.



posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 09:45 AM
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recongised that very place from the first photo u showed me.. just inside arches park right? just past the shop.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 06:00 PM
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posted on Dec, 27 2008 @ 12:41 AM
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just read this stuff and would like to point out two things. first, the moab area was used as a japanese concentration camp during world war II, this could explain the red flag with a white star if infact that is what you saw. second the area you say this door is in is easy to access, its right off the only road going into moab 191. that is also where a new foot bridge has been built accross the colorado river. just take 191 south from interstate 70 and right as your coming into moab you cross the colorado river. to the left is the new bridge, a pedestrian bridge. just before you cross the river you can turn left onto a dirt road, this must be where you where. someone should go check it out... i dont know if the door is of any interest or not but moab sure is. there is some weird # out there but you have to spend more than a weekend to start picking up on it and the locals aernt going to be much help...later



posted on Dec, 27 2008 @ 02:45 AM
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i used to live in moab and still have family there.

I could ask them to go check it out.

btw im guessing:

A) uranium storage (long forgotton obviously if so)

B) Military weapons cache (there are litteraly thousands spread across the nation... just in case...)

though i do have a question, knowing that area -

Were you walking along that stretch of road when you noticed it or driving?

And if walking, why would you walk there?
If driving, how did you notice it, and who noticed it first?

Grock,



posted on Jul, 17 2009 @ 06:04 PM
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That is one hell of a weird looking video. I can't make heads or tails of it.



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by cmd18B
Awesome find brother..Did you notice any solid red flags and by that I mean it could be an ordnance flag. Before I was discharged from the Army I spent some time on a naval base in New Jersey that supplied ordnance to the fleet and when ships were in port to load, red flags were raised to let the base know what was going on..I know I read in the post about you seeing a red flag with a white star, a red flag with a white star is BG and makes perfect sense. My other theory is this and it may sound a little far fetched but could it be a back door to Cheyanne Mountain?..Probably not but you never know..
It may be a little late for a response to part of this post, but I did not see a response. I was stationed at that base. The flag you are talking about is the Bravo flag. It is put up when handling ordinance, or the transfer of hazardous materials. Missiles, bombs, fuel anything along those lines. At sea those flags were my job, since I was a QM and we merged with SM. At Earle I did message traffic. The room sounds like a emergency storage room, in case of invasion. Common in the cold war.

[edit on 18-7-2009 by dracazoe]



posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 07:59 PM
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I find it interesting that you've been pushing someone do more research here. Especially with items such as a cutting torch or a road flare. Now we have someone identifying the red flag as something observed when handling ordnance. Why are you suggesting someone followup your research and break into this place with these items??? Ever heard of boltcutters? Why the flammable tools??
staying away from this with a ten foot pole (wooden)



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by Marrr
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I find it interesting that you've been pushing someone do more research here. Especially with items such as a cutting torch or a road flare. Now we have someone identifying the red flag as something observed when handling ordnance. Why are you suggesting someone followup your research and break into this place with these items??? Ever heard of boltcutters? Why the flammable tools??
staying away from this with a ten foot pole (wooden)


boltcutters lol... you will not get into this place period unless you use a torch. Someone already managed to cut a hole into the double steel doors (long ago) thats how i was able to see inside. I'm sure this person is still alive today. You dont understand, boltcutters is like something a highschool punk would use to steel a bike, this place is made to be secure and the only way in is to sear through thick metal... the lock was fortified so as not to allow you to get a boltcutter anywhere near it....

[edit on 20-7-2009 by hiii_98]



posted on Jul, 21 2009 @ 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by hiii_98

Originally posted by Marrr
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I find it interesting that you've been pushing someone do more research here. Especially with items such as a cutting torch or a road flare. Now we have someone identifying the red flag as something observed when handling ordnance. Why are you suggesting someone followup your research and break into this place with these items??? Ever heard of boltcutters? Why the flammable tools??
staying away from this with a ten foot pole (wooden)


boltcutters lol... you will not get into this place period unless you use a torch. Someone already managed to cut a hole into the double steel doors (long ago) thats how i was able to see inside. I'm sure this person is still alive today. You dont understand, boltcutters is like something a highschool punk would use to steel a bike, this place is made to be secure and the only way in is to sear through thick metal... the lock was fortified so as not to allow you to get a boltcutter anywhere near it....

[edit on 20-7-2009 by hiii_98]


Yes but what Marrr is trying to say is that people with past experience have pretty much indicated that what is in and near what you found can and most likely will harm you.

Keep out, folks.

And thanks for an interesting read!

[edit on 7/21/2009 by Eshyn]



posted on Jul, 22 2009 @ 08:34 AM
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would someone be able to lockpick it maybe? but then again if the lock is rusted it wont work so good


i think its stupid that i dont have stuff like this in my neighbourhood or some where i know



posted on Jul, 22 2009 @ 10:52 AM
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Then I suggest you head back there with a cutting torch and proceed to sear metal. Perhaps the dynamite just out of sight behind the door won't ignite this time. Another thing, this is private property is it not? You have no business even considering "breaking into" this place.



posted on Jul, 22 2009 @ 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by karpator
would someone be able to lockpick it maybe? but then again if the lock is rusted it wont work so good


i think its stupid that i dont have stuff like this in my neighbourhood or some where i know


I think it would be possible to lock pick..not easy but possible. The lock itself is surrounded by a boltcutter like housing. You actually have to stick your hand into a thick metal tube to get to the lock itself. I really more recommend putting a light through the hole that someone else already cut into the door and then putting in a small camera and pearing around rather than breaking anything...

[edit on 22-7-2009 by hiii_98]




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