. It seems like they made a big mistake. Or someone's trying to tell the world there's atmosphere on the Moon?

It's a translation error, most likely. It's a Chinese-language site, translated into English. Read some of the other stories on the site and notice the odd grammar and word choice.

What he's saying now is that due to the atmosphere existing the moonlanding was a hoax, because this changes fuel consumption and therefore they wouldn't have enough for the return trip home. On both the Open Mind forums and Project Avalon. No matter how they do the math, they had no reason to hoax this event, the human race wasn't expecting it to happen at that moment. They have far more incentive behind spreading these rumors to protect their secrets obtained at the expense of the paying public. When everyone is expecting disclosure and truth to occur this direction is more than an insult, but its outrageous. They really believe they are all that, and more, and may grind humanity under their heels and treat us as brainless slaves. This new talk of atmosphere, which should lead to more discoveries, instead is a tool suddenly being used to seal the truth off from us forever.

[edit on 26-9-2008 by mystiq]

Originally posted by mystiq
No matter how they do the math, they had no reason to hoax this event, the human race wasn't expecting it to happen at that moment. They have far more incentive behind spreading these rumors to protect their secrets obtained at the expense of the paying public. When everyone is expecting disclosure and truth to occur this direction is more than an insult, but its outrageous. They really believe they are all that, and more, and may grind humanity under their heels and treat us as brainless slaves. This new talk of atmosphere, which should lead to more discoveries, instead is a tool suddenly being used to seal the truth off from us forever.

[edit on 26-9-2008 by mystiq]

I guess your losing me.. ??? who are they.. ?? and what are they hiding???

They are the PTB, Nasa, and in this case this sudden trickle of new knowledge. Project Camelot presents a platform of many disclosures, that could be altruistic, or serve to trickle out whatever new paradigm "they've" decided to present gradually. When information is suddenly reversed, by one of their contributors, and a new agenda emerges, my bulls**t meter goes off in overdrive! I head the opposite direction really fast.

Originally posted by sir_chancealot

I don't know. Earth's atmosphere is pretty thick, yet we can make out all kinds of stuff on earth pretty clearly from space.

Have you ever looked through a telescope? The images even on a good night are far from crystal clear even from the tops of mountains. The earths thick atmosphere distorts planetary surfaces and deep sky objects etc. Also from space the Earth's atmosphere is visible as a 'halo' around the Earth.

Now, if the Moon had a substantial atmosphere the craters and mountains would show erosion and changes, dust storms and clouds would blow up. Indeed the whole surface would change and we would have to draw up revised Moon maps. The fact is we don't, the maps of the Moon made in the 1800s are just as valid today because the lack of atmosphere means that the Moons surface never changes- don't forget Mars has a very small atmosphere but we can see the dramatic changes from here on Earth with small telescopes even at this distance! Imagine the changes we would see on the Moon this close!

If the Moon had even a slightly substantial atmosphere it would be obvious, epsecially during an eclipse- as the Moon passed in fron of the sun it would illuminate the lunar atmosphere creating a halo effect around the Moon. Again, this doesn't happen as there is no substantial atmosphere.

Originally posted by sir_chancealot
Edit to add: This brings up another point I've just thought about. Why, when you view videos shot from space, of the dark side of the earth, don't lights on earth "twinkle" like the stars do? You would think that the "twinkle" would work both ways, if it was due to atmospheric distortion.
[edit on 26-9-2008 by sir_chancealot]

That's the quality of the video- they do twinkle slightly but not as much. Don't forget stars are much more powerful! Moreover they are a long way away. Not all stars twinkle the same amount either- stars high up in the sky hardly twinkle at all while the ones low and the horizon really sparkle- this id due to the fact that starts lower on the horizon are passing through more of the Earth's atmosphere and their light gets refracted more than than the stars overhead. So, lights from cities are like the stars overhead only a small amount of refraction. If you were to see them on the earths 'horizon' in space I think they would twinkle much more.

Hope this helps! I should steer clear of the Moon has a thick atmosphere nonsense if I were you- it's just not borne out in reality!

Timelike

[edit on 27-9-2008 by timelike]