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Electromagnetic War

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posted on Sep, 18 2008 @ 10:36 PM
I read an article today and it struck me as odd.

Senior Chinese officer urges military efforts to cope with security threats

Priority should be given to upgrade the military capacity to fight an information-based, high-tech regional war and efforts should be made to enable troops to tackle various security threats, said the vice chairman of the Central Military Commission.

"More drills should be carried out under a complicated electromagnetic environment," he said during an inspection tour to the country's northern Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, where troops from the Beijing Military Area Command were undertaking a drill.

What is a complicated electromagnetic environment, and why is China preparing for defence in this environment?

Well, most here will know about the recent russian invention reported in this thread:

It is impossible to take photographs or film a video of the new generator in action because it immediately puts all electronic devices out of order.

The research that was used for the creation of such a device can be applied in the development of electromagnetic weapons.

"No one has ever studied biological effects of such impulses. It is obvious that it affects the electronic equipment near it. Computers or cell phones have to be screened from such radiation," Mikhail Yalandin, a senior specialist of the Institute of Electrophysics said.

A force like this on the battlefield not only requires specialised equipment shielded against electromagnetic pulses, but whole new tactics given the impact on communications and current equipment. Obviously something has worried China eneough to be announced by the Central Military commission.

Of course it could well be new weapons under development by the US (or already developed) like the microwave Active Denial system. There have been past reports of secret weapons used in Iraq that resembled directed energy weapons and we can't forget Bob Woodward's reference to the "manhattan Project" active in Iraq.

I was getting quite wrapped up into this when I found this press release and a project dating back to 1993 by the US government.

US Government Office of Scientific and Technical Information Calls for Research Into HIRF

(Washington DC) In the next decade military equipment will be required to operate in severe electromagnetic environments. These environments are expected to contain most non-ionizing frequencies (D.C. to GHz), from hostile and/or non-hostile sources, and be severe enough to cause temporary upset or even catastrophic failure of electronic equipment. Over the past thirty years considerable emphasis has been placed on hardening critical systems to one or more of these non-ionizing radiation environments, electromagnetic interference (EMI), high intensity radiated fields (HIRF), and electromagnetic radiation (EMR).

So not only is China preparing for "complicated electromagnetic environments, but the US Government is calling for research into "severe electromagnetic environments". I haven't been able to find information on the Russian military preparing for this but something is definately up!

I found this to back it up:

Energy Citations Database

It seems that MS Kiefer is also of the opinion that Electromagnetic weapons have been used against aircraft already in his new book Democrat Down.

There is of course a possible alternative answer though; and that China and the US are possibly preparing for this already.

Sun's rays to roast Earth as poles flip

Earth's magnetic field - the force that protects us from deadly radiation bursts from outer space - is weakening dramatically.
Scientists have discovered that its strength has dropped precipitously over the past two centuries and could disappear over the next 1,000 years.

The effects could be catastrophic. Powerful radiation bursts, which normally never touch the atmosphere, would heat up its upper layers, triggering climatic disruption. Navigation and communication satellites, Earth's eyes and ears, would be destroyed and migrating animals left unable to navigate.

I tend to think it is extensive electromagnetic weapons already in use that is prompting both the US and China to bolster their defence forces for these adverse electromagnetic environments. As a conspiratorial aside it sounds very much like the weapons or effects that have been felt on aircraft pursuing UFO's.

posted on Sep, 18 2008 @ 11:13 PM
Let's just imagine a loose nut case, say in North Korea, decides to detonate a nuke between Japan and South Korea in hopes of creating an EMP pulse strong enough to hurt the Japanese and South Korean economy.

How far do you think that pulse would radiate? Say over northeast China and into Mongolia.

While North Korea is in the process of developing a missile capable of going as far as Chicago, it has a proven multistage rocket that puts Japan well within it's range.

China's enemies are not just Russian or American.

posted on Sep, 18 2008 @ 11:40 PM
very interesting post i must say.

what struck me is the apparent polar flip that may be gearing up.

it only happens on average every million years!,and the last one 790000 yrs ago.what are the odds of it happening now!?
i fully believe it is an artificial event being created by those who are fond of human depopulation.

we have all these reports of underground bases and bunkers being built,of cities and giant complexes under the earth.
we hear of the magnetosphere weakning which is a sign of a polar shift...

Scientists have been observing changes in the direction of earth's magnetic field which took place recently as well as in the distant past. NASA’s website features a map showing the gradual northward migration of the north magnetic pole in the past century and a half. Since more than double the time interval has elapsed since the last reversal, compared to the time lapse between the previous two pole reversals, some believe we may be overdue for the next north-south flip. (1,2) However, though the interval between reversals of the Earth’s magnetic field can be as short as 5,000 years, it can also be as long as 50 million years. There does not seem to be any logic or rule governing the planet’s behavior.

you also talk of electromagnetic shielding....

Does the magnetic field drop to zero gauss? Dire predictions follow upon the heels of this theory. Electronic devices would all be at risk: there may be damage to, or complete loss of, all near-earth-orbiting satellites and possibly the space station itself. Effects on life forms could range from migrating birds losing their sense of direction to immune system decline and even widespread die-off from radiation-induced cancers.

to me a polar shift would count as a severe electromagnetic environment,

so is there a polar shift that is occuring that the public arnt being told of?,and is the event being prepared for by building underground complexes designed to house sections of the population.

something sounds fishy to me,something big is up.......

posted on Sep, 18 2008 @ 11:58 PM
ok so the pole is gonna flip,what do we do about it?.

we have 4 years.

we could create a solar shield utilzing the energy capabilites of secret energy systems.

this can be achieved by turning the ionosphere into a giant magnetic field.
when an alternating electric field occurs it creates a magnetic field.#

thus if we can use a system such as haarp and sattelites to fire polorised(ie + or -) electron beams at the ionosphere that themselves alternate polarity the ionosphere could be induced into a state of polarity reversal creating an artifical magnetic field.

the problems of course is that the ionosphere itself would change in character and it will have some negative consequence,but i believe it would far less severe than a full removal of the magnetosphere thus no magnetic shielding at all, that would cause a mass extinction akin to what the dinosaurs went through.

another method could be to stop the flip itself.
though time is short once again either by using sattelites or using top secret anti grav craft to transport equipment to the moon.a device or devices that can manipulate the magnetosphere could be constructed in order to control the allignmen of the poles.

in the case of the sattelite they would all be located around the poles themselves which the intention of giving them an anchor in which prevent movement of said poles.
with the moon a much more complicated method a singular giant beam could be created that would target both poles with the same intention.

this is fun!

posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 12:28 AM
some more methods,create a magnetic shield in space itself that is placed in a location that intersects with the sun and the earth,thereby preventing dangerous solar radiation from hitting earth,whilst allowing normal benificial sunlight to pass through.
this is by far the easiest method and i believe it could be achieved within four years with a global effort.

it need be only 3400miles in circumfrence and to match the strength of the natural magnetosphere which as you know is rather weak.

such a inter-space magnetic shield could be created by such a simple method of a swarm of magnetic dust,mirco magnets so to speak that would be alligned it two opposing pole systems.
four years is about right for this one.

another method would be two fire two large ion beams at each other with opposing charge ,you would need alot of energy for this,by harnessing the natural solar energy in the form of numerous solar panels that each fead thei output into many seperate ion beams that are tesselated into a configuration that forms once again two main beam-fields of opposing polarity.

posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 01:47 AM

Originally posted by Shere Khaan
Of course it could well be new weapons under development by the US (or already developed) like the microwave Active Denial system. There have been past reports of secret weapons used in Iraq that resembled directed energy weapons and we can't forget Bob Woodward's reference to the "manhattan Project" active in Iraq.

If I was them(China), I wouldn't be too worried about Active Denial System or other future weapon systems(magnetic shield, etc) yet. Instead I would worry about older threats like simple electronic jammers. Let's face it, we know how to jam their radars, their radio stations, their TV signals, and they can't do jack about it. I think that could currently be considered 'complicated electromagnetic environments'.

The US preparing a decade long EM research program? Of course, they woulnd't want China catching up, would they?

posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 02:12 AM
reply to post by hinky

You have a bigger problem than an EMF pulse for ground troops with a nuclear exchange, I would consider the effects of the pulse to be one off in this case. A complicated environment implies more than a pulse from a nuke.

Besides Japan test fired the US anti ballistic missle system only this week successfully. It would take the current Russian anti missile shield missile to beat that currently which I doubt Russia would be giving to North Korea just yet.

posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 02:54 AM
Interesting....Very Interesting.

The best warriors were the best skilled at the sword and the shield.

Then it was who had the bigger weapon (explosive)

and now it is who is the geekiest. Who would of thought the best warriors would be the hackers.

posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 07:17 PM
Hmm. The nuke theory definitely has some substance. I found this on a US report on their vulnerability to a high altitude EMP. It also explains the US concern about Iran and even one nuke.

Congress examines EMP threat

More than four years after a stunning report about America's vulnerability to a nuclear electromagnetic pulse attack was released to Congress, the House Armed Services Committee will hear testimony from the scientist who issued the warning and who believes Iran is pursuing such an option.

William R. Graham, President Reagan's top science adviser and the chairman of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack, will update the committee Thursday morning.

Graham warned in 2005 that Iran was not only covertly developing nuclear weapons, but was already testing ballistic missiles specifically designed to destroy America's technical infrastructure with the aim of neutralizing the world's lone superpower.

The radical Shiite regime has conducted successful tests to determine if its Shahab-3 ballistic missiles, capable of carrying a nuclear warhead, can be detonated by a remote-control device while still in high-altitude flight, Graham said in his report.

Graham said then there was no other plausible explanation for such tests than preparation for the deployment of electromagnetic pulse weapons – even one of which could knock out America's critical electrical and technological infrastructure, effectively sending the continental U.S. back to the 19th century with a recovery time of months or years.

Iran would have that capability – at least theoretically – as soon as it has one nuclear bomb ready to arm such a missile.

And if you thought the US was a bastion of military strength the report went on to say:

The commission report went so far as to suggest, in its opening sentence, that an EMP attack "might result in the defeat of our military forces."

[edit on 19/9/08 by Shere Khaan]

posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 09:08 PM
this is really a brilliant post you did, and great researching.

I have four comments.
(1) Back in 1978 as a temp editor I worked on a project at Stanford Research Institute, International ... for about a week. I was the report editor. The report was basically about 'a first-up radio following a nuclear attack' -- because, a nuclear attack scrambles up the ionosphere and electromagnetic spectrum so no radio communication is possible until it all calms down.

(2) I remember calling up the attorneys for the University of Houston and University of California -- because, at the time a few years ago, the contract for who would take over Lawrence Livermore National Defense Lab was up for grabs (there's been allegedly an intelligence mole who shipped info to China).

However, Bechtel (founded by the Fed and City of London, as was Halliburton and Brown & Root), won the contract to manage the lab. Well, about 3 years ago I was volunteering in a non-profit to promote technology with a group of scientists who has spun out of Lawrence Labs, where they had had a 200 million dollar budget. Based on what they learned at Lawrence, they reinvented some new inventions.

Interestingly, stealth communications using Tesla technology and the ENTIRE ELECTROMAGNETIC spectrum was declassified by the U.S. military about 1995. You know what narrow band is, like am radio. You know what broad-band is, like AT&T mobile, that went public a few years ago for 20 billion dollars.

Well, wide-band uses the entire electromagnetic spectrum, not just the narrow range, nor not just the broad range, BUT THE ENTIRE ELECTROMAGNETIC SPECTRUM for communications.

What does that mean: in a nutshell, the wide band 2-way radio (that's what a cell phone is, a two-way radio) these guys had was 600 times more powerful than the broadband AT&T cellphone. So, since wireless communications is the basis for not only stealth communications, but wireless hookups, and since AT&T would immediately be put out of business if this new technology (actually 100 year old Tesla technology declassified by the military in 1995) was "commercialized" -- it was termed a DISRUPTIVE TECHNOLOGY -- and could not raise a dime from venture capitalists (who all basically are connected to the interlocking directorate of the Fed and City of London ... and if the Fed and City of London defines you as a disruptive technology (that means it would make paupers out of some of their tech companies) -- forget raising money.

So, what this means is, that since Bechtel has been working on energy and power and port projects in China for 30 years, and Bechtel now is in charge of this new electronic declassified techology ... read my lips ... it's gonna go to China.

(3) The nazis had electromagnetic bombs that flew up in small clusters called 'fu bombs' that automatically disrupted the electromagnetic circuits of planes, which then crashed (this is all well documented).

(4) I saw on tv about 3 years ago a show about america's new weapons. It had the new version of an SRI electromagnetic subsonic cannon they sold to South Africa to use for 'riot control' of the innocent, subject population -- when you flip it on, it makes human organs vibrate and tremble and burst -- that was 35 years ago. Well, on this tv show, they showed the same instruments hung from helicopters for riot control.

By the way, this spin Lawrence Livermore Lab company has handheld devices based on short-distance ground penetration radar. This enable you to detect the movement in the air by the movement of the lungs of people buried alive in disasters ... it was one of two technologies allowed into WTC during the rescue operations. it can also be tuned to detect heartbeats and vital signs, the size of a large flashlight, their working models can be pointed across the room and read your vital signs of pulse, for example. It can also be mounted on a gun, and if you go up to a wooden door it can tell you if there is a human heartbeat on the other side, 'to shoot at'. It can also detect any human presence at night or in fog etc.

Those are my initial reactions. Basically that the Fed and City of London are going to sell-out (steal) U.S. high-tech from California and commericalize it China I have to go back in tomorrow, and carefully read all of your references, and see if I have any additional reactions.

[edit on 19-9-2008 by counterterrorist]

posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 10:15 PM
reply to post by counterterrorist

Just adding to what counterterrorist said here... Ultra-Wide Band (UWB) is a seriously powerful technology which can penetrate matter, much like an x-ray is capable of seeing thru wall in buildings, etc. developed and deployed to track assets, etc. This technology certainly has the potential for misuse and as far as I know, it is commercially available from a company called Time Domain.

Also, there are other hi-tech risk which I believe may be a key factor is the Electromagetic war.. This includes satellites armed with Tomography and ultrasound technology. Of course, this is common knowledge but more malignant than public assumes. All of the time, these satellites are effectively blasting xrays (and other bad radiation) at an unsuspecting public.

It is not any one specific technology that poses the immediate threat, but the future cross-pollination of these technologies that will no doubt put all of us at risk. I believe there should be some accountability for the way humans exploit spectral lightwave and radiation, but unfortunate it is uncharted territory.

The piece of the puzzle that is really scary is... the Electromagetic war is being waged and humanity is oblivious to it because it cannot be seen, and the threat is very difficult to detect. It will take a catastrophic event before any action is take along these lines. It is only a matter of time before this happens. This post gets a star+flag from me.

[edit on 19-9-2008 by mapsurfer_]

posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 10:20 PM
reply to post by Shere Khaan
Cold war is not bad. it just depends. whaat they know and we know.
As long as they know more we are ok... no reason to war.
Thank God.

[edit on 19-9-2008 by Idiotrocker]

posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 10:44 PM
reply to post by counterterrorist

You are so full of sh*t your eyes are brown.

Broadband radio operates on the gigahertz wave scale. AM radio operates on the medium wave. There is absolutely no complete radio spectrum radio. This spectrum covers DC to daylight, but you're an idiot and don't know this.

posted on Sep, 20 2008 @ 02:16 AM
Thanks for the info Counterterrorist. You gave me some good ideas for new directions of research.

Apparently this war started a long time ago. I have found various references to an incident at the US embassy in Moscow in which it was bombarded with microwave radiation. Since it was lower than the safe level deemed by the US government they could not lodge an official complaint.


The bizarre Soviet zapping of the U.S. embassy in Moscow, "The Moscow Signal", may well have been the opening volley of the Invisible War of electromagnetic weaponry. While sweeping the embassy for bugs in 1962, security personnel detected a microwave beam aimed straight at the embassy (25). Naturally, the Pentagon and Intelligence Community became alarmed at the possibility of neurological and behavioral effects on diplomatic personnel. Keeping the knowledge secret from the suffering embassy staff for 12 years, the CIA launched PROJECT PANDORA (26), aimed at understanding the Soviet's motives for the microwave attack. Pandora personnel discovered that the Soviets had conducted extensive microwave research operations over the years They concentrated their study on the emotional and rental effects of microwaves. By the summer of. 1965, a Pentagon-affiliated think tank, Institute for Defense Analysis, convened a special task force to replicate Soviet experiments and analyze the problem. The Defense Advance Research Projects Agency (DARPA) began experimenting on rhesus monkeys with microwaves at Walter Reed Army Research Insitute. The results are still classified Top Secret, but, from recent duplicate studies we learn that microwaves cause 'profound effects on the central nervous system and change behavior of rhesus monkeys.

This war has been a long time in the making. I can't believe I wasn't aware of this before, the implications are huge that all the major super powers have been developing these wepaons for decades to the point they need to redesign their tactics around them.

[edit on 20/9/08 by Shere Khaan]

posted on Sep, 20 2008 @ 02:55 AM
If this has interested you so far, you HAVE to watch this movie. It is a must see.


My God, this field is enormous.

posted on Sep, 29 2008 @ 10:07 PM
U.S. Navy orders more airborne electronic attack systems

The U.S. Navy had ordered more airborne electronic attack systems for its overseas operations from Northrop Grumman with an estimated value more than125 million dollars, the Los Angeles-based defense contractor said Monday.

The systems, which have been used by the Navy to support U.S. military operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, are designed to identify, degrade and destroy radar-guided air defense and communications systems, according to a statement by the company.

This has got to be electromagnetic weaponry being specifically electronic attack systems. It begs the question how long have they been using them in the first place?

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