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Cunning is only one form of "intellegence".
TextThey say you're dumb, I think you're absolutely cunning.
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
If I make a statement and you disagree with me then you are denying my ignorance. Correct? In otherwords, it's your opinion against mine! It's all about opinions. . .
Originally posted by ofhumandescent
115 is okay but not Yale material.
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
reply to post by iiinvision
Well, there's no denying that is there? What could have happened to him to make him into the stuttering fool he's now become? I've always said that those really in charge manipulate are leaders from the safety of the shadows. Perhaps they're drugging him to make him look stupid? What would they gain by doing that?
what is embarrassing is that Obamas IQ has been proven to be 116...ouch
Originally posted by Copernicus
Most likely the score is faked. It would be a big embarrassment for the White House to have a president that is on public retard level.
Originally posted by Fathom
Not a single argument is backed up by proof.
Originally posted by Fathom
what is embarrassing is that Obamas IQ has been proven to be 116...ouch
The former Guidance Counselor of Obama's private Hawaiian school has supplied The Washington Post with a certified copy of Obama's Stanford-Banai IQ Certification, one of which was taken in 1966 when he was a kindergardener in Hawaii before moving to Indonesia, and one which was taken as entrance protocol as a freshman in his private (extremely exclusive) Honolulu private highschool.
His IQ was clocked at 172 and 166 respectively (IQ's normally have a fluctuation of 6 or 7 points from test to test so that discrepency is normal).
That puts Obama in the certifiable clinical genius category.
Obama attended an elite private school in Honolulu as a scholarship student. He had previously been in school in Indonesia, so his scholarship was almost certainly not based on marks, but on extremely high entrance exam scores, likely well above 145.
Barack Obama's Estimated IQ Score Range is 130 to 148 and quite possibly higher.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Care to provide that "proof"?
The former Guidance Counselor of Obama's private Hawaiian school has supplied The Washington Post with a certified copy of Obama's Stanford-Banai IQ Certification, one of which was taken in 1966 when he was a kindergardener in Hawaii before moving to Indonesia, and one which was taken as entrance protocol as a freshman in his private (extremely exclusive) Honolulu private highschool.
His IQ was clocked at 172 and 166 respectively (IQ's normally have a fluctuation of 6 or 7 points from test to test so that discrepency is normal).
That puts Obama in the certifiable clinical genius category.
Source
What the IQ guy failed to account for is the fact that Harvard University practices affirmative action. PBS Frontline reports: "The gap in SAT scores persists even at the highest levels of achievement. A study of the 1989 applicants to five highly-selective universities found that white candidates' average combined SAT score was 186 points higher than the corresponding SAT average for African American applicants."
Furthermore, the New York Times reports that "At the best schools, by contrast, efforts to diversify the student body translate into a 400-point bonus for minority students on the SAT tests."
That 98.8 ranking based on the average Harvard LSAT translates to about a 135 IQ and a combined SAT score of 1290. That's pretty good, if not spectacular. However, due to affirmative action, one must reduce that score by at least 186 points. (Also, I suspect the NYT article is talking about the new SAT, which isn't valid for the purposes of this comparison.) Thus, giving Obama the benefit of the doubt drops his score to 1104, which is approximately equivalent to an IQ of 116.
Before one points to the fact that Obama ranked highly in his class, it's important to keep in mind that Bill Bradley was a Princeton Rhodes Scholar despite his 485 Verbal SAT and mediocre 103 IQ. Academic success, like every other kind of success, is just as much about hard work and determination as it is about intellectual firepower, but Barack Obama's supporters obviously shouldn't be attempting to make their case for him on the basis of what is, based on the available information, probably an IQ of 116, only one standard deviation above the norm. Of course, this estimate is based on averages which don't necessarily apply to a single individual; Obama could lay the matter to rest by simply permitting his scores to be released to the public.
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Originally posted by Evasius
As with going potty, I'm sure daddy helped him with the SAT's as well.
This is exactly the kind of argument that the left is limited to when attacking the President.
Again, it is indicative of those who disparage the President.
[edit on 2008/9/18 by GradyPhilpott]