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posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by buds84
Since this forum allows this kind of ignorant racist comments, I'd like to add to it.

Congrats on filling your wish.



Originally posted by buds84

I doubt a white people vs black people shoot out would result in whites winning if cops were not involved. You underestimate how much gun's and armor black people have. Too much T.V


ever hear of Texas? Tennessee? The "South"?


Originally posted by buds84
Black people naturally are more skilled and stronger than white people.
Just look at black people in sports. They have come to dominate.

I'm sorry but black people are just much better than white people in just about every way including larger genitals.

I know a MOD can't possible take my post down and keep yours up unless they are racist themselves.
That would be unfair and promote the pro white racism thats been going on in ATS for the past couple months.



that was quite possibly the most ignorant thing I have read on ATS in a while. So congrats if that was the goal. And that says a lot as I have said many ignorant things...(see below)


Skilled?? More "skilled" at what? Technology? Invention? Mechanical things? Medical Discovery? Engineering? Education? Please enlighten us.

dude check yo mamma she be tellin you fibs
blacks maybe more COORDINATED and potentially faster, thats for sure but the rest of your claims hold ZERO water.

People are all the same bro. It just so happens that the "black man" lived for a longer time in the "need to be fast" area of the world and just started living in the "fat ass" age recently with the "whites".

You know "whites" being everyone NOT "black" as we all fit in one basket right?

[edit on 19-9-2008 by gormly]




posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by buds84

Didn't you see the video of Bush celebrating his win the night before the votes were counted up?
It's all over the net.


you just proved my point.



posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 02:12 PM
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I was trying to make a point to the ignorant racists but I see your were too unintelligent to understand.

"Skilled?? More "skilled" at what? Technology? Invention? Mechanical things? Medical Discovery? Engineering? Education? Please enlighten us."

Rethink planet earth, none of these things have done any "Real" good for the planet because our technologies are ahead of our time.

Technology, Invention, Mechanical = Pollution. Whats wrong with hunting a pig or being a farmer for a bit longer? At least we wouldn't have nuclear weapons to destroy the earth.

In the last 100 years more humans have died than at any other time frame in history because of these things.

Medical Discovery= Man made viruses like AID's have killed more people than helping people.

You haven't got a clue yet. You just think your cellphones and computer are making the world better, it's not.



posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 02:30 PM
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If I had to call my self something I guess it would be liberal, but that is just a label! WHO CARES! Ragenomics did not work then and it is not going to work now! Why did the economy recover in the 80's I believe it was because we were more competative, we produced things, we "as a country" strived to be better not because the upper 0.1% felt like throwing us a bone cause they had extra!
Hey all I am saying are these bailouts are BS and if as a society we are against socialism as far as health care and social policy goes, then we do not get to bail out multi-billion dollar corporations either! Can we start calling them "welfare mamas" as could say "look at them white men in those expensive suits aren't they just living it up on our dime, you know they don't want to go out and get a REAL job!"



posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 02:30 PM
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If I had to call my self something I guess it would be liberal, but that is just a label! WHO CARES! Ragenomics did not work then and it is not going to work now! Why did the economy recover in the 80's I believe it was because we were more competative, we produced things, we "as a country" strived to be better not because the upper 0.1% felt like throwing us a bone cause they had extra!
Hey all I am saying are these bailouts are BS and if as a society we are against socialism as far as health care and social policy goes, then we do not get to bail out multi-billion dollar corporations either! Can we start calling them "welfare mamas" as could say "look at them white men in those expensive suits aren't they just living it up on our dime, you know they don't want to go out and get a REAL job!"



posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 04:29 PM
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We the people of america do not know much about obama. There is some chatter about his birth place, his drug use past and present, and his past gay life style. There are a few gay men from his church that came up dead, that were his lovers. Is any of this true or false? lets do the reserch.



posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 06:33 PM
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I Must reiterate my post from p2

WE ARE WALKING INTO DEEP $hit

Clinton, Bush, Obama, McCain are the same...

It is of the utmost importance that THIS Generation of 18-40 step aside from all of this nonsense

This is the same GENERATIONAL conflict that has rocked America since the 60's and ruined everything

The 60's was the last generation of Stereotypes, Social experimentation vs traditionalism...

2 sides fighting over nothing, living in a limited world where the kind of communication we have today was not possible

Liberal Hippies Clinton, Farternity Elitests Bush, Black AXctivists Obama, Traditionalist War heros McCain (everyones parents)

These people have you embroiled in thier OLD problems

They are all imbeciles

Our generation is Different, none of us are really and truely like them, we are smarter, faster, more diverse and fit almost no typical social norms

YET they have managed to divide us along the same lines that as individuals we have evaporated our entire lives

When the term Gen X was coined in the 90's it was because noone could even find a term that singularly applied to any large group this generation...and this is because we truely are the first individuals

That is why the largest group taking any action has a name like ANONYMOUS, because we are faceless... we are not morons, the Internet has changed it all, skin color is a non entity, liberal vs conservative is a non entity

Polarizing ideologies in reality do not exists for us

YET we allow them to drag us into pathetic primative debates over issues that NO LONGER EXIST

3 Presidents in a row... from the 60's... 3 presidents from a time that screamed Peace but was all about Hate, Hate of parents for children and children for parents

a generation that killed 40 Million children and took away rights to be a Mother economically because they wish to Live forever

a generation that ended our families and left us alone with no parents even when they did

a generation that replaced our food with Mc Meal out od Greed and a desire for Personal self gratification

a generation that told Women they were free but then took being a woman away from them via wage slavery and forced labor

a generation that told Blacks they were free but then funded a welfare state and trapped them in the ghetto

a generation that told White People to do what was right then galvanized the world against them

a generation who preached freedom but liberal and conservative worship no g-d only money

A GENERATION WHO ONLY TEACHES POLITICS OF DIVISION AND ENFORCES THOSE BELIEFS AND PETTY DISPUTES THROUGH THE MEDIA

A generation that has been on dope either perscription or street for 40 years and has never come down

a generation that partied then incarcerated it's own children when they imitated them

a generation who would sit on life support afraid to die and leave it's children nothing

a generation who destroyed hundreds of years of American wealth via Vile Greed

A generation who squandered our birth rights on Death and destruction

A Generation that Killed both Martin Luther King and JFK

A Generation that refuses to understand the Internet aside from a handful



Who is OUR candidate?

Who understands that the economic recovery will only happen via the Internet?

Who is Beyond Race and stereo types?

Who is living in Todays world?

Who represents US?



Why would we riot over any of this?

Why would we even vote when the Largest generation in American History is being Led to tear out each others throats over issues and and policies that honestly and truely do not exist for us?

Why would a young Black Person want an Obama who paints him as a desperate needy Nigg3r in a world where Black culture is appreciated and Black Men everywhere are becoming Millionares?

Why would a young White Person support Bush when we grew up working on an Internet and he brings us an Oil based economy and hatred of those we made friends with?

Why would anyone support the Hippies Clinton? Who trashed and thrashed every value thier parents had that built America in exchange for social ideologies that left us...without Parents?

What good is McCain other than a return of Values when the one Value that caused the rebellion in the first place "Blind Faith without reason" has never been corrected?



Who among them even knows how to use the Internets?

Who among them spent the last decade speaking free of race entirely?

Who can balance a budget by promising factory jobs or build a global economy if they can't even protect and E-mail or use a computer properly?

Who among them is anything Beyond a Politically self absorbed prick that lives in a world of Material Greed and Lack of Truth



Where is our Leader?

We have no Leader because we despise politics

We have no leader because they black list anyone who doesn't conform to rigid standards of social norms they invent purely for the purpose of keeping outsiders on the outside



But WE together in truth own the vote

and despise politics

But OUR generation must soon stand up because they intend to get us all killed.

Race War, Political War, revolution, Economic colapse

An Internet that can reach 3 Billion +

and

No online voteing

No Online Job proposals that would save gas, defeat Oil branch our economy Globally...

50-100 G to go to College and we are promised education reform that doesn't include free University via Internet

Race issues but we give laptops to Africans while young Black Men in Bed Sty can't afford computers and aren't allowed into the revolution just left to steet culture

Mothers on welfare sent to look for jobs in fast food when work at home moms as concept is unembraced by the system

a war on drugs with kids raised on Adderal and Ritalin

Fights over Gay Marriage when Marriage itself has been decimated and we have no families

Schools that teach SEX but not LOVE

Classes that teach how to work but not how to open a business in a Capitalist system

Sub par food, sub par homes, sub par manufactured goods... nothing permanent, nothing lasting all i the name of greed


an economic model of poverty and middle class that Has Not Changed since the 1960's depite inflation


They have not moved... not an inch any of them since 1970 at best, they are frozen in time obsessed with thier youth and reliveing it through our lives


This has been the worst generation in the history of the WORLD

and they need to be removed from power

Legally via the vote

We need a candidate for our generation

We need a futurist, a person raised on the internet, a person who has limitless knowledge at thier fingers, an open mind and who does not know about race and sex and religion from ONE set of rules but like us knows these things from MANY sets of rules and can draw thier own conclusuions and be UNIQUE



We must not allow whomever gets elected to destroy us...a Bush or worse than Bush is Now Inevitable

In 4 years... Our Generation musty have a cndidate in 2012

It can be a NEW beggining not an end, but we must NOT react to anything they ask of us, we must not follow any of thier policies, we must not fight for them, we must not polarize for them

We must elect One of US in 4 years

We must recognize the true failures of this entire generation, the greed, the blind dogma, the waste, the fear of death, the quest for immortality, th division

We must loathe them all

and in 4 years we must set a precedent and change the entire system forever by bringing in a person who was raised in a truely different world than our parents and grandparents

We must elect one of us in 4 years














[edit on 19-9-2008 by mopusvindictus]



posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by saturnine_sweet
More importantly, taxation is going to reach levels that will be intolerable to the majority, and if Obama wins and tries to tax the wealthy into oblivion, as he likes to talk about, he's going to find that some of those wealthy are going to be more than happy to supply money to the masses who are at the heart of said civil unrest.

I believe that things of this nature will be settled the old-fashioned way: The Congress will trash each and every bill written in the White House, until Mr Obama wakes up to the reality of who runs the show for real.



posted on Sep, 20 2008 @ 01:36 AM
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THANK YOU Unit541! It doesn't matter who we vote for because the agenda and plan is already set. They are never leaving Iraq and the freedom that U.S. citizen are use to will cease to exist.

I personally think the whole election is a joke. It' just another distraction.



posted on Sep, 20 2008 @ 04:24 AM
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Originally posted by mopusvindictus
I Must reiterate my post from p2

WE ARE WALKING INTO DEEP $hit

Clinton, Bush, Obama, McCain are the same...

It is of the utmost importance that THIS Generation of 18-40 step aside from all of this nonsense

This is the same GENERATIONAL conflict that has rocked America since the 60's and ruined everything

The 60's was the last generation of Stereotypes, Social experimentation vs traditionalism...

2 sides fighting over nothing, living in a limited world where the kind of communication we have today was not possible

Liberal Hippies Clinton, Farternity Elitests Bush, Black AXctivists Obama, Traditionalist War heros McCain (everyones parents)

These people have you embroiled in thier OLD problems

They are all imbeciles

Our generation is Different, none of us are really and truely like them, we are smarter, faster, more diverse and fit almost no typical social norms

YET they have managed to divide us along the same lines that as individuals we have evaporated our entire lives

When the term Gen X was coined in the 90's it was because noone could even find a term that singularly applied to any large group this generation...and this is because we truely are the first individuals

That is why the largest group taking any action has a name like ANONYMOUS, because we are faceless... we are not morons, the Internet has changed it all, skin color is a non entity, liberal vs conservative is a non entity

Polarizing ideologies in reality do not exists for us

YET we allow them to drag us into pathetic primative debates over issues that NO LONGER EXIST

3 Presidents in a row... from the 60's... 3 presidents from a time that screamed Peace but was all about Hate, Hate of parents for children and children for parents

a generation that killed 40 Million children and took away rights to be a Mother economically because they wish to Live forever

a generation that ended our families and left us alone with no parents even when they did

a generation that replaced our food with Mc Meal out od Greed and a desire for Personal self gratification

a generation that told Women they were free but then took being a woman away from them via wage slavery and forced labor

a generation that told Blacks they were free but then funded a welfare state and trapped them in the ghetto

a generation that told White People to do what was right then galvanized the world against them

a generation who preached freedom but liberal and conservative worship no g-d only money

A GENERATION WHO ONLY TEACHES POLITICS OF DIVISION AND ENFORCES THOSE BELIEFS AND PETTY DISPUTES THROUGH THE MEDIA

A generation that has been on dope either perscription or street for 40 years and has never come down

a generation that partied then incarcerated it's own children when they imitated them

a generation who would sit on life support afraid to die and leave it's children nothing

a generation who destroyed hundreds of years of American wealth via Vile Greed

A generation who squandered our birth rights on Death and destruction

A Generation that Killed both Martin Luther King and JFK

A Generation that refuses to understand the Internet aside from a handful



Who is OUR candidate?

Who understands that the economic recovery will only happen via the Internet?

Who is Beyond Race and stereo types?

Who is living in Todays world?

Who represents US?



Why would we riot over any of this?

Why would we even vote when the Largest generation in American History is being Led to tear out each others throats over issues and and policies that honestly and truely do not exist for us?

Why would a young Black Person want an Obama who paints him as a desperate needy Nigg3r in a world where Black culture is appreciated and Black Men everywhere are becoming Millionares?

Why would a young White Person support Bush when we grew up working on an Internet and he brings us an Oil based economy and hatred of those we made friends with?

Why would anyone support the Hippies Clinton? Who trashed and thrashed every value thier parents had that built America in exchange for social ideologies that left us...without Parents?

What good is McCain other than a return of Values when the one Value that caused the rebellion in the first place "Blind Faith without reason" has never been corrected?



Who among them even knows how to use the Internets?

Who among them spent the last decade speaking free of race entirely?

Who can balance a budget by promising factory jobs or build a global economy if they can't even protect and E-mail or use a computer properly?

Who among them is anything Beyond a Politically self absorbed prick that lives in a world of Material Greed and Lack of Truth



Where is our Leader?

We have no Leader because we despise politics

We have no leader because they black list anyone who doesn't conform to rigid standards of social norms they invent purely for the purpose of keeping outsiders on the outside



But WE together in truth own the vote

and despise politics

But OUR generation must soon stand up because they intend to get us all killed.

Race War, Political War, revolution, Economic colapse

An Internet that can reach 3 Billion +

and

No online voteing

No Online Job proposals that would save gas, defeat Oil branch our economy Globally...

50-100 G to go to College and we are promised education reform that doesn't include free University via Internet

Race issues but we give laptops to Africans while young Black Men in Bed Sty can't afford computers and aren't allowed into the revolution just left to steet culture

Mothers on welfare sent to look for jobs in fast food when work at home moms as concept is unembraced by the system

a war on drugs with kids raised on Adderal and Ritalin

Fights over Gay Marriage when Marriage itself has been decimated and we have no families

Schools that teach SEX but not LOVE

Classes that teach how to work but not how to open a business in a Capitalist system

Sub par food, sub par homes, sub par manufactured goods... nothing permanent, nothing lasting all i the name of greed


an economic model of poverty and middle class that Has Not Changed since the 1960's depite inflation

So . . . You mean there's gonna be a riot?



posted on Sep, 20 2008 @ 06:18 AM
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Uhm... urrr

well, with much deliberation and thought after a few days of this thread

I must conclude that my intital thought despite all atempts to convey a heart felt and sincere political message of unity, and desire to point people in the direction of the true cause of this horrendous situation is the correct one.

So yes

Indeed sir

My reccomendation:

I'd put in my two week notice if I worked at a major electronics outlet, avoid public transportation and places that sell grape drink the week of the election.

This is a good time to vacation near or preferably on the water like the man in the movie Signs. A House boat sitting in over 7' of water is preferable for the week



posted on Sep, 20 2008 @ 06:38 AM
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Well, I think that the winner is already set up, by the masters of the puppets.
Obama, McCain, whats the big difference.

For us, the puppets, we will dance, as usual.

I m really curious, if one day, the puppets all over the world, will cut the strings and dance the dance of liberty.

Ok....I keep on dreaming, but wake me up when you are ready to dance



posted on Sep, 20 2008 @ 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by mopusvindictus

My reccomendation:

I'd put in my two week notice if I worked at a major electronics outlet, avoid public transportation and places that sell grape drink the week of the election.

This is a good time to vacation near or preferably on the water like the man in the movie Signs. A House boat sitting in over 7' of water is preferable for the week

Aaah, I think that the water under the house boat isn't deep enough. I remember that back in 1992, the very upset Afro-Americans burned South Central to the ground because of Rodney King who didn't even work in the City Hall. That Obama is heading for the White House, and if he stumbles, I guess it would be better to leave the country for a while -- I mean go to the airport and watch the election night from there. You can always cancel the flight if he wins, right?

I don't know anyone overseas though except my sister who lives in Switzerland. But they got that big collider going there that makes those black holes that everyone is afraid of. Like that if they grew bigger they could destroy the country.

Bummer.



posted on Sep, 20 2008 @ 05:10 PM
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Just a comment about the medias definition of racism and how they use it to THEIR advantage.

Before the election, you may hear a lot from the media about "The Bradley Effect" and how it may impact the election..

In 1986 Mayor Tom Bradley (D), (a black man) ran for governor of California against George Deukmejian. Popular polling at the time show as many as 70% of the whites interview were planning on voting for Tom Bradley.

On election day, the polls did not pan out and Bradley lost by less than 100,00 votes creating what is now know as the "Bradley Effect" which basically states whites will tell pollsters they'll vote for a black candidate. But whe the curtain is pulled on the voting booth, they voted for the white guy". PURE RACISM stated the Los Angeles Times.

The Time had a large front page article, (full page, 2 columns) ridiculing whites for being racist because they did not vote as reported to pre-election polls. They harped and harped about how racist the white voters of California were. Shame on the white folks. These stories went on for days.

But the real story was there for all to read. I don't remember the exact percentage, but I believe Tom Bradley received in excess of 60% of the white vote, a majority as far as I'm concerned. California was 60% Democrats at the time also.

But in an adjacent article regarding the black vote for Bradley, it stated that 96.6% of the black voters cast their ballots for Tom Bradley. Of course, this is surely not racist.

My point is, if Obama loses this election, it surely won't be because of the issues as far as the MSM is concerned. The MSM will blame the white voter for his defeat calling us all racist and so self-consumed, we should be ashamed of ourselves and just hauled off to the REX84 camps. The MSM will stoke the fires!!!!

So if the blacks take to the streets after Obama's defeat, we must make sure the media pays the price for what has caused.

Just a point of information.



posted on Sep, 20 2008 @ 07:02 PM
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I believe none would be so shaken as our dear Ted Kennedy. He will have to find a new "boy". Oh and second place would be Biden, no chance of becoming President.

citizenwells.wordpress.com... 00000-state-grant-obama-and-corrupt-grants/



Please, besides taking the money what has Obama actually accomplished?

Don't tell me you believe him. He does give a great speech but he has done NOTHING. As community organizer he worked for Daily, he took money for a park and never built it. His wife kept poor people out to her Hospital and sent them packing.

www.blackagendareport.com...

roadsassy.com...

www.usnews.com...

www.upi.com...

www.politifact.com...

We will only loose what little liberty we have all the faster if he "wins".

Sorry if this is offensive. I was just really wanting to believe Obama would be different , I really wanted to believe we had a real hope.

He has most likely already been to the Bohemian Grove, CA.
If only we had a paddle but wait if the # gets any thicker we may be able to just walk out of this creek!



posted on Sep, 21 2008 @ 01:33 AM
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What a very racist thing to say, dude. I'm black and Harvard educated, do you know how I am? The thing is white folks have a lot less to be upset about than blk folks, considering the history of this country blk folks ought to be way more upset. Last time white folks occupied my land, we simply slaughtered and ate them and got our independence in 1804. Same should have been done here I think. Imagine if Mexicans enslaved you and your family, how pissed off would you be? think about it. I'm not upset with rednecks from rural America because trust me, they really don't know better. No reason to bicker, pal; If Aliens come down here and try to enslave us all, blk/purple/red/green/ will fight alongside each other. I'll keep you in my prayers though.



posted on Sep, 21 2008 @ 01:58 AM
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Originally posted by RagenCajun
reply to post by sqid4life
 


I think at this point I'd be impressed if he even makes it to election day.....sadly.

[edit on 18-9-2008 by RagenCajun]


That was a really classy statement. Which planet are you from??



posted on Sep, 21 2008 @ 02:02 AM
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" What if Obama loses the race? "



WHAT? ..
..
..
..


Why on earth would you want a Communist to win?

The truth is, neither side will be good for our Constitution, or darn near anything else you can think of.

I don't like mccain either.


It's a lose lose, either way, sorry you didn't know.



posted on Sep, 21 2008 @ 02:10 AM
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Originally posted by stander

Originally posted by sqid4life
Under Obama's leadership, things will get gradually so sh-tty that the shock of 2012 won't be even felt. Thanks, Mr. President.

Strange times = strange names.


So what is your point?
It sounds like you have no confidence in anyone who will become the next president. As a matter of fact it sounds like you have a problem with anyone other than a white American male becoming the leader of the free world. Its ignorance such as yours and millions of others who have the same mindset. Using color or race as an issue to disqualify anyone who chooses to follow their dreams is an infectious disease carried on from generation to generation. I do believe they call this HATE!!



posted on Sep, 21 2008 @ 02:28 AM
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Originally posted by mopusvindictus
okay,

This was explained to me In College by a Communications Professor I was a student aid for, He Said:

"African Americans are a Higher Context Culture than Caucasian Americans they tend to be more physical in speech, approach closer when they talk, use thier hands and arms and bodies more in communication and are vociferous in speech"


You professor comments are idiotic!!


You know...it's a "high context culture" what should I expect? Beyond what happens every single time there is a problem... Black People in LA rioted over... a Crack Head



Get your facts straight! The LA riots were not about a crack head, it was due to injustice towards young black men and minorities.



Obama... loss of a President? OMG... Free TVs for everyone


This response is stereotyping the black culture. This comment is borderline racist and should be retracted. I think you owe the black community an apology for this statement.



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