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Originally posted by Springer
I guess it all comes down to a real need to believe, for whatever reason. Maybe people have an empty spot inside them or in their lives and they get some sort of comfort from things like this? Springer...
Come on, Ron, the guy has serious problems of credibility
To be sure... but then so do 98.3 % of all other "UFO' stories. The difference with this one it has so many angles and a lot of effort to produce evidence... so it won't go away. So we are destined to repeat history over and over every time someone finds it again...
Who put the line between the saucer and the tree branch.
Such an ornate saucer can't be made unless life size.
Added: August 13, 2008
One of the best I've ever seen. Just found it the other day on a UFO website.
El Paso, Texas. On August 8, 2008 William Gertrudis spotted something unusual in the sky. "I saw a flying craft of some kind, dead silent going at extreme speed but able to quickly change directions." He described it as silver/white, oval in shape and "about as long as a Greyhound bus." Gertrudis, 62, who photographs wildlife as a hobby retrieved his camera from his car and proceeded to take several photos but the object proved elusive. "I knew my shots were going to be hit or miss," due to the irregular pattern of flight, "but I'm grateful I got one good one."
Gertrudis, who lives just outside El Paso with his wife and 3 dogs, was not alone as a witness. At least 6 others from around the region reported an unusual disc flying that afternoon. "I was always the guy who would laugh when I heard about people seeing flying saucers," Gertrudis said, "but I guess it's time someone else laughs. What I saw didn't seem of this earth."
Originally posted by jritzmann
There is no distance haze in any Meier photo. Thats a demonstrable fact. I'm not trying to convince anyone of any thing. I have said for years, do it yourself and find out.
It was Aspie who put that line there as an illustration.
As the ornate saucer thing goes....
I dont have much knowledge when it comes to photography, but however even i can see what is wrong within that picture.
As you yourself stated "Such an ornate saucer can't be made unless life size."
If that was as far away as it "seems" to be, you wouldn't see any "ornaments" at all due to hazing from the distance.
And also you clearly see one tree branch going behind the "saucer".
That places this "saucer" within the treebrances and alot closer to the camera
my debate with Ritzmann is not over the authenticity of the Meier photos. It is over the quality of the photo reproductions made by him and IIG west. Please read thru threads thoroughly before making judgements.