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Disclosure Is Close, Are They Coming?

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posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 06:00 PM
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I always wonder about the timing of things and rarely believe that things “just happen”, especially when viewed in the national spotlight. I gave up believing in coincidences a long time ago and realize under the guise of happenstance, many gears are turning. So it was with curiosity and a desire to see beneath the fabric that I tuned into ABC last night to watch UFOs: Seeing Is Believing (Part 2) hosted by David Muir. Part 1 of this series aired in February of 2005 and was hosted by the late Peter Jennings and Part 2 mainly rehashed the Jennings episode, but this time more respected witnesses were brought forward and less debunking occurred.

I realize across the world people are anxiously awaiting disclosure and many believe that these visiting aliens may be our salvation from a doomed and dying world, but I can’t get past the idea that we are being led, not towards disclosure, but a grand deceit. While viewing television of late, both the programming and the advertisements, I’ve kept one question in mind and that question is, “What do they want me to believe?” Those in the know understand that television is absolute propaganda, changing the thinking and foundation of our country. And when we can approach our viewing from that mindset, a lot of truths become clear - not the packaged and approved “truth” being sold with expensive airtime, but the motivations behind them. We know our media is owned by a select group of men, no longer does free press reign in our world, so we must always keep that fact in the back of our minds and question their goals.

I’ve noticed in recent years that stories of UFOs and strange lights have gotten more and more mainstream attention and although I know it thrills many in the UFO community, it puts a twinge in my gut. The only reason UFOs are getting attention is that someone, with a lot of money and power, has decided to allow it. We must remember that as tightly controlled as the media is, we will not view what we are not supposed to see. So why are we seeing it now? Where are we being led?

If the belief in UFOs and extraterrestrials had remained on the fringe, I could have looked upon it with the eyes of a child, alight with curiosity and mystery, but seeing it fall into the hands of the mainstream, it becomes suspect. With countries beginning to release their previously top-secret UFO files, the Vatican stating that the belief in aliens is not inconsistent with the belief in God and cable and networks releasing programming supporting such beliefs, I think it is time to step back and reevaluate the situation.

The media created this storm of UFO belief in the 40s and 50s and although it appeared on the surface that the government did not believe, the seed was planted and over the years, nourished by movies, books and television. And now that seed, a sturdy and strong tree, is about to bear fruit. We must remember that the sowing of this seed was not natural, it was created in a lab of ratings and radio advertisements, book sales and television, so we must truly be cautious when embracing the change we see sweep through the mainstream opinion base.

The last few years have been ripe with war, fear, financial doom and natural disasters and at the same time, UFOs have flourished in the media and again I wonder, why now? I’ve written a couple articles on the Blue Beam theory of a faked alien invasion and a couple on the idea of mass depopulation and it seems to me these ideas fit together perfectly. Or perhaps since God has been replaced by science, we need to be given a new savior. Or maybe we aren’t responding to the terrorist agenda as was expected and a new fear must be instituted to keep us in line. Whatever the motivation behind the swing towards disclosure, we must remember it is a manipulation provided by the ones with the most power and influence and the only reason those doors are opening is because there is a plan and I would wager, it is not in our best interests.

With banks failing at a record rates, gas and food prices escalating daily, parts of the Gulf coast decimated by Hurricane Ike and the elections dividing us more and more I think it grows important to analyze why our leaders want us to look to the skies. There’s a lot going on, mixed messages confusing and exhausting us, police state mentalities appearing across the map and now our leaders want us to trust them as they inform us that there may be UFOs and extraterrestrial life out there and maybe, soon to be here.

As I explore the Internet, I see more and more posts from those dreaming of craft in the skies, of a war playing out in the heavens and from what I can gather those dreams are tinged with fear and the desire to escape. And frankly as one who shares the same dream, I found it fascinating that others were also experiencing it and I take it as a warning that if these dreams bloom into reality, it is not a good scenario for the average citizen. If there are UFOs and extraterrestrials, I do not believe that they will ride in like the White Knight in some fairy tale to rescue us. And if the aliens are already here, as some surmise, then they’ve been rubbing elbows with the very elite that we know we cannot trust and again, that doesn’t work out well for us.

Last night I watched as ABC programmed millions of viewers to believe that UFOs are real, not just the die-hard ufologists who already believe, but the masses and if we don’t question the motivation behind their actions, I fear many will be deceived.

Keep Seeking

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posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 06:06 PM
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Excellent post. It certainly made me think and fits with something in the back of mind that has been niggling. I do not know what the exact motivation is, but I find your explanation entirely plausible. Way


Edited to add:

It is extremely important to keep your eyes and mind open in this matter. It may be life changing and keep questioning everything.




[edit on 17/9/08 by Lebowski achiever]



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 06:13 PM
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Thanks Lebowski Achiever, watching that show really gave me an odd feeling, as it was aimed at the masses and non-believers. I've been sure, in the back of my mind, that this would begin happening more and more. I know Larry King has been busy covering it, but to see it on primetime, network television really pinched my gut.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 06:20 PM
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I used to feel this way about disclosure, like the government knew something and keeping it from the public but after another decade has pasted and still nothing, I had to pretty much re-evaluate my thinking. I have always hoped that there was ET UFO out there, but have never seen one myself.... What I have seen is a whole bunch of hoaxes, and fake video, and speculation by other wannabe believers.

When it comes to the subject of UFOs, I have an open mind, but as far as a government cover up, or withholding facts.. I highly doubt it. Something such as ET/UFOs is going to be something that will require real proof (videos + witnesses) which is something the government cannot suppress.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 06:23 PM
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You're paranoid. Of course you're going to find something to fear when You're being paranoid. The only thing that the U.S. television stations care about isn't pushing some properganda from a shadow government that is the boogyman of your mind, they want to make money.

Regardless of if your assumed findings are true and that the media is owned by a group of people, it is such because all that group cares to do is MAKE MONEY.

Your fearmongering will blind you from seeing the truth. So do you want to see the truth or do you want to blind yourself. Replace your fears with faith.

What you fear isn't other's "evils" it's the evil within yourself being projected upon a boogyman.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 06:23 PM
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Yes, It is easy to get lost into the mainstream bandwagon that is going round at the moment. I found it odd that, without real proof, CNN and the likes are treating all of it as fact.

I have seen strange things in the sky lately (4 times in the past four months after a lifetime of nothing) so I am in two minds if it is a real phenomenon, or not, and kind of obsessing about it.

I am wondering if the mainstream media is jumping on this bandwagon because they know it is coming for real and they do not want to be caught with their pants down, or if this is mind control of the most cynical level.

I have 3 family members who have seen UFOs a few decades ago but I have only started to see strange things recently, and often, too.

What could it be? Can we discount the accounts of many people? Is it all Government staged and is it all fake?

My head is starting to spin. Must. Think. It. All. Out.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 06:33 PM
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I find it interesting the way it is sliding into mainstream -- I also find it suspicious. I have also seen a few weird things in the sky in the last couple years and come from a family that counts many encounters.

But, I still wonder and I figure if we are being primed from the media it is time to sit back and think. It's easy to go round and round seeing both sides and getting very confused and hopefully when and IF it happens, I'll know enough and be confident enough to make the right decision.

The dreams that I have and hear many others having of the sky filling with craft are always laced with fear and anxiety, maybe that's a message.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 06:36 PM
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Just 'cause I'm paranoid does not mean they are not out to get me


I think it is right to question the motives. Before it was ridiculed by the Media. Now it is not. Why? Money comes AFTER it becomes mainstream to believe in UFOs. It is not yet, but is closer to it than ever before. Does that mean that the news media has taken a risk? It would be the first time this decade, I am sure. I also think the two are not necessarily mutually exclusive. That the UFOs are real, but that their presence is used to distract from the true issues.

People watch less and less TV. Greater numbers go to the Internet for their entertainment which means mind control (and Money for that matter) is not as controllable as before. Something needs to lure back the alternative thinkers.

What better than a promise of UFO disclosure.

I am not saying it is true but I find if plausible.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by Lebowski achiever
reply to post by Vikturtle
 

...I have seen strange things in the sky lately (4 times in the past four months after a lifetime of nothing) so I am in two minds if it is a real phenomenon, or not, and kind of obsessing about it.

I am wondering if the mainstream media is jumping on this bandwagon because they know it is coming for real and they do not want to be caught with their pants down, or if this is mind control of the most cynical level...



the problem is - something is going on - we can't know what for sure - since all we can do is speculate, it's hard to know what's too far fetched - what's not far-fetched enough

maybe it is just feeding off public interest - money making - plain and simple

I've seen something too

part of me is willing to believe it's ours - part of me just has to say no way

I can't actually know - so, what else is there? skepticism, cynicism, a certain amount of anxiety...

are we being played? that's the big question

that one actually makes me more nervous than a sky full of UFOS - hovering motionless over major cities around the globe

I'd almost rather it be them than us



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 06:41 PM
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It is strange that you mention dreams.

I have had dreams since I was little about the sky filled with moving stars/UFOs. Always with a feeling of dread and awe. It is a recurring dream (every year I have one or two) and I have mentioned it in another thread.

I always feel extremely weird and scared for days afterwards almost as if it WILL happen one day.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 06:47 PM
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Very good point, Lebowski Achiever and very plausible. Actually something I hadn't considered, that opening the door to the alternative view brings more $$ to those in charge. Thanks!



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 06:49 PM
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I just re-read an old book "Flying Saucers - Serious Business"

hadn't looked at it in years - I was struck by how little has changed

when that book was written - the mainstream media was hopping with sightings, investigations, discussions...

they felt like they were on the eve of disclosure then - 40 years ago

so - who knows - maybe it is all fantasy

manipulation

maybe we'll never know

that's not what I really feel - but it's what I have to consider as a very real possibility if I want to remain objective - and hopefully keep my wits about me



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 06:53 PM
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Part of me believes a lot of the sightings are us. I figure we are 30+ years behind on the technology they possess, I mean the Germans were making Foo Fighters way back in the day and many sightings reflect the same image.

I do believe life is out there, but I also think they would be maniacs to get involved in the craziness down here. Who in their right minds would come from a cool planet to earth unless they had an ulterior motive?

But then my mind turns to the Mothman Prophecy and perhaps these things have always occurred, perhaps whatever it is, has always been, maybe just a part of this world that we have yet to understand... who knows, but fun to think about.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 06:56 PM
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It's very strange that many report these dreams, I wonder what it means. I know how you feel, because I also have them and you are right, I'm on alert after having one, checking out the sky...



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 06:59 PM
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I also think that something has changed. A glitch in the matrix if you will. However, I have noticed that in my immediate surroundings I am the only one.

I have found that I can no longer tolerate TV for more than 4 minutes and have it switched off most of the time. I feel there is something going on and I also see that a lot of people on ATS feel the same. It was the thing that made me register because I felt there was something different in the world and I could not give it a name until I read a thread here that dealt with that exact topic. Feeling that something has changed.

Are we infecting one an other with a virus that destroys the programme or are we all just swept up by Hysteria? I am not convinced of either but I find it more than a coincidence that there is a breaking away from the status quo by more and more people. People who want to have some answers and quite rightly so. They crave the truth after nearly a decade, if not longer, of blatant and not too clever lies. Our intelligence has been insulted to the core and those answers are a long time coming.

Will we get them? Will we know if they are true or not? I have found over the years that Truth is a subjective thing. It should not be, of course, but have found fact twisted to become fiction on many an occasion.

It boggles the mind.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 07:05 PM
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strange that dreams are mentioned in the OP as something of a more common occurance. i too have been having very regular dreams (bi-monthly for several years now) involving any manner of alien crafts/beings... oft times, i am witnessing the moment of "disclosure". of course these dreams may be manifestations of my own inward plight, but most of the dreams are of a lucid sort, and needless to say rather intense/ dramatic. whether or not "disclosure" is upon us, it seems evident that the ~collective unconscious~ of our species (or at least a community open to such things) is being riled up by something.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 07:22 PM
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It is one of the top searches apparantly.

www.webuser.co.uk...

I would like to think that it isn`t all about the money or for getting people to visit news sites but i dont trust the media.They should leave it to websites like ATS.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 07:31 PM
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Yes, that backs up the notion that people want to know more. They want answers. Thanks for that link!

To come back on the Them or Us idea. I think both.

I think the triangle sightings in the 90s are the Aurora more than likely. But there are so many different types of sightings.

Again, Not mutually exclusive.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 07:31 PM
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I have felt the change as well and it has changed my perceptions, although it is a good thing, sometimes it feels rather lonely.

As far as the TV, it is draining and steals our attention away from other things, much like the fight to wake from a dream. I hear of many awakening on the Internet, but rarely see it in my day to day life. It would be interesting if it was a type of virus and the awakened were spreading it, but I'm afeared if that idea caught on there would be a vaccine and quarantine.


As far as UFOs are concerned, I suspect that if they are real and plan to make an appearance, our leaders will use it to their advantage and suck as much money from it as they can, before the event of course, leaving us drained and disbelieving.

I agree that our intelligence has been insulted in so many ways, but I wonder why most seem so unconcerned by it. It's a complicated mess and we are so over-stimulated, our attention drawn in so many directions....folks are rarely still anymore. No more lamenting.... (for now)



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by Lebowski achiever
Excellent post. It certainly made me think and fits with something in the back of mind that has been niggling. I do not know what the exact motivation is, but I find your explanation entirely plausible. Way


Edited to add:

It is extremely important to keep your eyes and mind open in this matter. It may be life changing and keep questioning everything.




[edit on 17/9/08 by Lebowski achiever]
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