Edited to add:
It is extremely important to keep your eyes and mind open in this matter. It may be life changing and keep questioning everything.
[edit on 17/9/08 by Lebowski achiever]
Disclosure Is Close, Are They Coming?, page 1
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Topic started on 17-9-2008 @ 06:00 PM by Vikturtle
I always wonder about the timing of things and rarely believe that things “just happen”, especially when viewed in the national spotlight. I gave
up believing in coincidences a long time ago and realize under the guise of happenstance, many gears are turning. So it was with curiosity and a
desire to see beneath the fabric that I tuned into ABC last night to watch UFOs: Seeing Is Believing (Part 2) hosted by David Muir. Part 1 of this
series aired in February of 2005 and was hosted by the late Peter Jennings and Part 2 mainly rehashed the Jennings episode, but this time more
respected witnesses were brought forward and less debunking occurred.
I realize across the world people are anxiously awaiting disclosure and many believe that these visiting aliens may be our salvation from a doomed and dying world, but I can’t get past the idea that we are being led, not towards disclosure, but a grand deceit. While viewing television of late, both the programming and the advertisements, I’ve kept one question in mind and that question is, “What do they want me to believe?” Those in the know understand that television is absolute propaganda, changing the thinking and foundation of our country. And when we can approach our viewing from that mindset, a lot of truths become clear - not the packaged and approved “truth” being sold with expensive airtime, but the motivations behind them. We know our media is owned by a select group of men, no longer does free press reign in our world, so we must always keep that fact in the back of our minds and question their goals.
I’ve noticed in recent years that stories of UFOs and strange lights have gotten more and more mainstream attention and although I know it thrills many in the UFO community, it puts a twinge in my gut. The only reason UFOs are getting attention is that someone, with a lot of money and power, has decided to allow it. We must remember that as tightly controlled as the media is, we will not view what we are not supposed to see. So why are we seeing it now? Where are we being led?
If the belief in UFOs and extraterrestrials had remained on the fringe, I could have looked upon it with the eyes of a child, alight with curiosity and mystery, but seeing it fall into the hands of the mainstream, it becomes suspect. With countries beginning to release their previously top-secret UFO files, the Vatican stating that the belief in aliens is not inconsistent with the belief in God and cable and networks releasing programming supporting such beliefs, I think it is time to step back and reevaluate the situation.
The media created this storm of UFO belief in the 40s and 50s and although it appeared on the surface that the government did not believe, the seed was planted and over the years, nourished by movies, books and television. And now that seed, a sturdy and strong tree, is about to bear fruit. We must remember that the sowing of this seed was not natural, it was created in a lab of ratings and radio advertisements, book sales and television, so we must truly be cautious when embracing the change we see sweep through the mainstream opinion base.
The last few years have been ripe with war, fear, financial doom and natural disasters and at the same time, UFOs have flourished in the media and again I wonder, why now? I’ve written a couple articles on the Blue Beam theory of a faked alien invasion and a couple on the idea of mass depopulation and it seems to me these ideas fit together perfectly. Or perhaps since God has been replaced by science, we need to be given a new savior. Or maybe we aren’t responding to the terrorist agenda as was expected and a new fear must be instituted to keep us in line. Whatever the motivation behind the swing towards disclosure, we must remember it is a manipulation provided by the ones with the most power and influence and the only reason those doors are opening is because there is a plan and I would wager, it is not in our best interests.
With banks failing at a record rates, gas and food prices escalating daily, parts of the Gulf coast decimated by Hurricane Ike and the elections dividing us more and more I think it grows important to analyze why our leaders want us to look to the skies. There’s a lot going on, mixed messages confusing and exhausting us, police state mentalities appearing across the map and now our leaders want us to trust them as they inform us that there may be UFOs and extraterrestrial life out there and maybe, soon to be here.
As I explore the Internet, I see more and more posts from those dreaming of craft in the skies, of a war playing out in the heavens and from what I can gather those dreams are tinged with fear and the desire to escape. And frankly as one who shares the same dream, I found it fascinating that others were also experiencing it and I take it as a warning that if these dreams bloom into reality, it is not a good scenario for the average citizen. If there are UFOs and extraterrestrials, I do not believe that they will ride in like the White Knight in some fairy tale to rescue us. And if the aliens are already here, as some surmise, then they’ve been rubbing elbows with the very elite that we know we cannot trust and again, that doesn’t work out well for us.
Last night I watched as ABC programmed millions of viewers to believe that UFOs are real, not just the die-hard ufologists who already believe, but the masses and if we don’t question the motivation behind their actions, I fear many will be deceived.
Keep Seeking
turtlesvoice.blogspot.com...
I realize across the world people are anxiously awaiting disclosure and many believe that these visiting aliens may be our salvation from a doomed and dying world, but I can’t get past the idea that we are being led, not towards disclosure, but a grand deceit. While viewing television of late, both the programming and the advertisements, I’ve kept one question in mind and that question is, “What do they want me to believe?” Those in the know understand that television is absolute propaganda, changing the thinking and foundation of our country. And when we can approach our viewing from that mindset, a lot of truths become clear - not the packaged and approved “truth” being sold with expensive airtime, but the motivations behind them. We know our media is owned by a select group of men, no longer does free press reign in our world, so we must always keep that fact in the back of our minds and question their goals.
I’ve noticed in recent years that stories of UFOs and strange lights have gotten more and more mainstream attention and although I know it thrills many in the UFO community, it puts a twinge in my gut. The only reason UFOs are getting attention is that someone, with a lot of money and power, has decided to allow it. We must remember that as tightly controlled as the media is, we will not view what we are not supposed to see. So why are we seeing it now? Where are we being led?
If the belief in UFOs and extraterrestrials had remained on the fringe, I could have looked upon it with the eyes of a child, alight with curiosity and mystery, but seeing it fall into the hands of the mainstream, it becomes suspect. With countries beginning to release their previously top-secret UFO files, the Vatican stating that the belief in aliens is not inconsistent with the belief in God and cable and networks releasing programming supporting such beliefs, I think it is time to step back and reevaluate the situation.
The media created this storm of UFO belief in the 40s and 50s and although it appeared on the surface that the government did not believe, the seed was planted and over the years, nourished by movies, books and television. And now that seed, a sturdy and strong tree, is about to bear fruit. We must remember that the sowing of this seed was not natural, it was created in a lab of ratings and radio advertisements, book sales and television, so we must truly be cautious when embracing the change we see sweep through the mainstream opinion base.
The last few years have been ripe with war, fear, financial doom and natural disasters and at the same time, UFOs have flourished in the media and again I wonder, why now? I’ve written a couple articles on the Blue Beam theory of a faked alien invasion and a couple on the idea of mass depopulation and it seems to me these ideas fit together perfectly. Or perhaps since God has been replaced by science, we need to be given a new savior. Or maybe we aren’t responding to the terrorist agenda as was expected and a new fear must be instituted to keep us in line. Whatever the motivation behind the swing towards disclosure, we must remember it is a manipulation provided by the ones with the most power and influence and the only reason those doors are opening is because there is a plan and I would wager, it is not in our best interests.
With banks failing at a record rates, gas and food prices escalating daily, parts of the Gulf coast decimated by Hurricane Ike and the elections dividing us more and more I think it grows important to analyze why our leaders want us to look to the skies. There’s a lot going on, mixed messages confusing and exhausting us, police state mentalities appearing across the map and now our leaders want us to trust them as they inform us that there may be UFOs and extraterrestrial life out there and maybe, soon to be here.
As I explore the Internet, I see more and more posts from those dreaming of craft in the skies, of a war playing out in the heavens and from what I can gather those dreams are tinged with fear and the desire to escape. And frankly as one who shares the same dream, I found it fascinating that others were also experiencing it and I take it as a warning that if these dreams bloom into reality, it is not a good scenario for the average citizen. If there are UFOs and extraterrestrials, I do not believe that they will ride in like the White Knight in some fairy tale to rescue us. And if the aliens are already here, as some surmise, then they’ve been rubbing elbows with the very elite that we know we cannot trust and again, that doesn’t work out well for us.
Last night I watched as ABC programmed millions of viewers to believe that UFOs are real, not just the die-hard ufologists who already believe, but the masses and if we don’t question the motivation behind their actions, I fear many will be deceived.
Keep Seeking
turtlesvoice.blogspot.com...
reply posted on 17-9-2008 @ 06:13 PM by Vikturtle
reply to post by Lebowski achiever
Thanks Lebowski Achiever, watching that show really gave me an odd feeling, as it was aimed at the masses and non-believers. I've been sure, in the back of my mind, that this would begin happening more and more. I know Larry King has been busy covering it, but to see it on primetime, network television really pinched my gut.
Thanks Lebowski Achiever, watching that show really gave me an odd feeling, as it was aimed at the masses and non-believers. I've been sure, in the back of my mind, that this would begin happening more and more. I know Larry King has been busy covering it, but to see it on primetime, network television really pinched my gut.
reply posted on 17-9-2008 @ 06:23 PM by Lebowski achiever
reply to post by Vikturtle
Yes, It is easy to get lost into the mainstream bandwagon that is going round at the moment. I found it odd that, without real proof, CNN and the likes are treating all of it as fact.
I have seen strange things in the sky lately (4 times in the past four months after a lifetime of nothing) so I am in two minds if it is a real phenomenon, or not, and kind of obsessing about it.
I am wondering if the mainstream media is jumping on this bandwagon because they know it is coming for real and they do not want to be caught with their pants down, or if this is mind control of the most cynical level.
I have 3 family members who have seen UFOs a few decades ago but I have only started to see strange things recently, and often, too.
What could it be? Can we discount the accounts of many people? Is it all Government staged and is it all fake?
My head is starting to spin. Must. Think. It. All. Out.
Yes, It is easy to get lost into the mainstream bandwagon that is going round at the moment. I found it odd that, without real proof, CNN and the likes are treating all of it as fact.
I have seen strange things in the sky lately (4 times in the past four months after a lifetime of nothing) so I am in two minds if it is a real phenomenon, or not, and kind of obsessing about it.
I am wondering if the mainstream media is jumping on this bandwagon because they know it is coming for real and they do not want to be caught with their pants down, or if this is mind control of the most cynical level.
I have 3 family members who have seen UFOs a few decades ago but I have only started to see strange things recently, and often, too.
What could it be? Can we discount the accounts of many people? Is it all Government staged and is it all fake?
My head is starting to spin. Must. Think. It. All. Out.
reply posted on 17-9-2008 @ 06:33 PM by Vikturtle
reply to post by Lebowski achiever
I find it interesting the way it is sliding into mainstream -- I also find it suspicious. I have also seen a few weird things in the sky in the last couple years and come from a family that counts many encounters.
But, I still wonder and I figure if we are being primed from the media it is time to sit back and think. It's easy to go round and round seeing both sides and getting very confused and hopefully when and IF it happens, I'll know enough and be confident enough to make the right decision.
The dreams that I have and hear many others having of the sky filling with craft are always laced with fear and anxiety, maybe that's a message.
I find it interesting the way it is sliding into mainstream -- I also find it suspicious. I have also seen a few weird things in the sky in the last couple years and come from a family that counts many encounters.
But, I still wonder and I figure if we are being primed from the media it is time to sit back and think. It's easy to go round and round seeing both sides and getting very confused and hopefully when and IF it happens, I'll know enough and be confident enough to make the right decision.
The dreams that I have and hear many others having of the sky filling with craft are always laced with fear and anxiety, maybe that's a message.
reply posted on 17-9-2008 @ 06:37 PM by Spiramirabilis
Originally posted by Lebowski achiever
reply to post by Vikturtle
...I have seen strange things in the sky lately (4 times in the past four months after a lifetime of nothing) so I am in two minds if it is a real phenomenon, or not, and kind of obsessing about it.
I am wondering if the mainstream media is jumping on this bandwagon because they know it is coming for real and they do not want to be caught with their pants down, or if this is mind control of the most cynical level...
the problem is - something is going on - we can't know what for sure - since all we can do is speculate, it's hard to know what's too far fetched - what's not far-fetched enough
maybe it is just feeding off public interest - money making - plain and simple
I've seen something too
part of me is willing to believe it's ours - part of me just has to say no way
I can't actually know - so, what else is there? skepticism, cynicism, a certain amount of anxiety...
are we being played? that's the big question
that one actually makes me more nervous than a sky full of UFOS - hovering motionless over major cities around the globe
I'd almost rather it be them than us
reply posted on 17-9-2008 @ 06:41 PM by Lebowski achiever
reply to post by Vikturtle
It is strange that you mention dreams.
I have had dreams since I was little about the sky filled with moving stars/UFOs. Always with a feeling of dread and awe. It is a recurring dream (every year I have one or two) and I have mentioned it in another thread.
I always feel extremely weird and scared for days afterwards almost as if it WILL happen one day.
It is strange that you mention dreams.
I have had dreams since I was little about the sky filled with moving stars/UFOs. Always with a feeling of dread and awe. It is a recurring dream (every year I have one or two) and I have mentioned it in another thread.
I always feel extremely weird and scared for days afterwards almost as if it WILL happen one day.
reply posted on 17-9-2008 @ 06:47 PM by Vikturtle
reply to post by Lebowski achiever
Very good point, Lebowski Achiever and very plausible. Actually something I hadn't considered, that opening the door to the alternative view brings more $$ to those in charge. Thanks!
Very good point, Lebowski Achiever and very plausible. Actually something I hadn't considered, that opening the door to the alternative view brings more $$ to those in charge. Thanks!
reply posted on 17-9-2008 @ 06:53 PM by Vikturtle
reply to post by Spiramirabilis
Part of me believes a lot of the sightings are us. I figure we are 30+ years behind on the technology they possess, I mean the Germans were making Foo Fighters way back in the day and many sightings reflect the same image.
I do believe life is out there, but I also think they would be maniacs to get involved in the craziness down here. Who in their right minds would come from a cool planet to earth unless they had an ulterior motive?
But then my mind turns to the Mothman Prophecy and perhaps these things have always occurred, perhaps whatever it is, has always been, maybe just a part of this world that we have yet to understand... who knows, but fun to think about.
Part of me believes a lot of the sightings are us. I figure we are 30+ years behind on the technology they possess, I mean the Germans were making Foo Fighters way back in the day and many sightings reflect the same image.
I do believe life is out there, but I also think they would be maniacs to get involved in the craziness down here. Who in their right minds would come from a cool planet to earth unless they had an ulterior motive?
But then my mind turns to the Mothman Prophecy and perhaps these things have always occurred, perhaps whatever it is, has always been, maybe just a part of this world that we have yet to understand... who knows, but fun to think about.
reply posted on 17-9-2008 @ 06:56 PM by Vikturtle
reply to post by Lebowski achiever
It's very strange that many report these dreams, I wonder what it means. I know how you feel, because I also have them and you are right, I'm on alert after having one, checking out the sky...
It's very strange that many report these dreams, I wonder what it means. I know how you feel, because I also have them and you are right, I'm on alert after having one, checking out the sky...
reply posted on 17-9-2008 @ 07:22 PM by tracey ace
It is one of the top searches apparantly.
www.webuser.co.uk...
I would like to think that it isn`t all about the money or for getting people to visit news sites but i dont trust the media.They should leave it to websites like ATS.
www.webuser.co.uk...
I would like to think that it isn`t all about the money or for getting people to visit news sites but i dont trust the media.They should leave it to websites like ATS.
reply posted on 17-9-2008 @ 07:31 PM by Lebowski achiever
reply to post by tracey ace
Yes, that backs up the notion that people want to know more. They want answers. Thanks for that link!
To come back on the Them or Us idea. I think both.
I think the triangle sightings in the 90s are the Aurora more than likely. But there are so many different types of sightings.
Again, Not mutually exclusive.
Yes, that backs up the notion that people want to know more. They want answers. Thanks for that link!
To come back on the Them or Us idea. I think both.
I think the triangle sightings in the 90s are the Aurora more than likely. But there are so many different types of sightings.
Again, Not mutually exclusive.
reply posted on 17-9-2008 @ 07:31 PM by Vikturtle
reply to post by Lebowski achiever
I have felt the change as well and it has changed my perceptions, although it is a good thing, sometimes it feels rather lonely.
As far as the TV, it is draining and steals our attention away from other things, much like the fight to wake from a dream. I hear of many awakening on the Internet, but rarely see it in my day to day life. It would be interesting if it was a type of virus and the awakened were spreading it, but I'm afeared if that idea caught on there would be a vaccine and quarantine.
As far as UFOs are concerned, I suspect that if they are real and plan to make an appearance, our leaders will use it to their advantage and suck as much money from it as they can, before the event of course, leaving us drained and disbelieving.
I agree that our intelligence has been insulted in so many ways, but I wonder why most seem so unconcerned by it. It's a complicated mess and we are so over-stimulated, our attention drawn in so many directions....folks are rarely still anymore. No more lamenting.... (for now)
I have felt the change as well and it has changed my perceptions, although it is a good thing, sometimes it feels rather lonely.
As far as the TV, it is draining and steals our attention away from other things, much like the fight to wake from a dream. I hear of many awakening on the Internet, but rarely see it in my day to day life. It would be interesting if it was a type of virus and the awakened were spreading it, but I'm afeared if that idea caught on there would be a vaccine and quarantine.
As far as UFOs are concerned, I suspect that if they are real and plan to make an appearance, our leaders will use it to their advantage and suck as much money from it as they can, before the event of course, leaving us drained and disbelieving.
I agree that our intelligence has been insulted in so many ways, but I wonder why most seem so unconcerned by it. It's a complicated mess and we are so over-stimulated, our attention drawn in so many directions....folks are rarely still anymore. No more lamenting.... (for now)
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