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Anonymous Hack's Palin's Yahoo Email

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posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 06:35 PM
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I saw the thread where some idiot had had the balls to post the proposition to hack her e-mail. I know it was just a few anon who did this, but now the entire collective will be known as asshats who possibly made Sarah Palin have a higher chance of winning. Lots of people were saying that it was a terrible idea, but it looks like they went through with it, anyways.
Thanks a lot, jerks.


IN THE MEANTIME, she totally had it coming. I mean, Yahoo? That's just sad, and having her e-mail out in public like that is just too dangerous.

You know, maybe this was a set-up.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 06:37 PM
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i don't know if this has been posted yet, but doesn't this play into the whole "palin as a trojan horse" thread a couple weeks ago here on ATS?



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 06:42 PM
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To all those who said this is theft yea maybe it is but it serves her right for doing government work on personal emails so she can delete stuff. Hacking is going to be part of wars now so get used to it.

Edit to add

It has been shown that she uses this personal email for government issues so she doesnt have to keep record as shown here
www.washingtonpost.com...

Anything that is government issues as far as Im concerned is fair game. Anything personal however should be kept that way. She is a civilian too and has rights to privacy just like us all. Maybe this will be a lesson to her quit trying to beat the system rules are there for a reason. (Try telling that to Bush)

[edit on 17-9-2008 by mybigunit]



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 07:03 PM
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FYI: The story has gone mainstream.

www.nytimes.com...

(I, for one, am glad that somebody here at ATS has thoroughly debunked the backfire theory!

I don't know why the McCain-Palin campaign would want to associated Sarah Palin with the term "backfire" anyway.
)



[edit on 17-9-2008 by Areal51]



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by WERE_ALL_GONA_DIE
Knowledge is free.
[edit on 17-9-2008 by WERE_ALL_GONA_DIE]


In light of all the people whining about privacy, theft, intellectual property, I thought this needed to be reiterated. Paradigm shifts may be inconvenient and even painful to some extent, but people need to wake up to the 21st century. Information DEMANDS to be free. Only when we realize that will WE be free.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 07:09 PM
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No one hacked her accout, this is all setup.

Now none of her emails can be read because her account has been deleted.

Give me a break, nice way to cover up your emails blame it on hackers.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 07:12 PM
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Well, I took a warn for it, but I had to. I can't sit here while someone takes advantage of a story to spin it into something it's not.

People keep saying that anything bad that happens to Palin is going to backfire against Obama. Funny, so many things have backfired against him and he's steady in the polls.

This is a story of some guys hacking her account to see what they can find. Nothing else. If this "backfires" against anyone but the hackers themselves then America is stupid.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 07:17 PM
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This is absolutely disgusting. These candidates have the same rights to Privacy that ANY of us, as American Citizens, do as well. How low will the dirt digging dwell? I do not care which candidate we are speaking of, this form of information piracy is morally, and legally wrong.

As for the criticism of Sarah Palin having used a yahoo e-mail account for "Government Work", where is the proof in that? This is not Classified Information (Which is NOT e-mailed anyhow), this is not Officially Documented Business, this is nothing more than private e-mails between Palin, and friends. Just because these friends and acquaintances happen to be Government Officials, plays no part in the classifying of these e-mails as anything other than private, and off-record.

As for the taking of some thieves words as truth over a well vouched, and potential United States Vice President, well, that shows how twisted and dis-illusioned some in society have become.

These hack-jobs should be traced, and prosecuted. This is no different than breaking into someones house, and stealing their possessions. It is nothing short of a Digital B&E.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by shipovfools

In light of all the people whining about privacy, theft, intellectual property, I thought this needed to be reiterated. Paradigm shifts may be inconvenient and even painful to some extent, but people need to wake up to the 21st century. Information DEMANDS to be free. Only when we realize that will WE be free.


If what you mean by this statement is that people DESERVE to see, read and hear others emails, see their private pictures, and hear their PERSONAL issues/details...you must be nuts! Anyone who hacks, then reads and falls into the life of "lets see what dirt was dug up on so-and-so today are nothing but scumbags. People wonder why their lives are so messed up and this nation is a joke...maybe if they stopped looking into other peoples lives and finally got a grip on their own..we wouldnt have so many issues these days!!! Its pathetic....

If thats not what you meant..then i apologize for taking it the way I did...



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 07:20 PM
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Hey, that's a reasonable conspiracy theory. I thought the same thing. How better to get rid of evidence than to stage a hack and blame it on famous hackers?

Though, unless Anon. deny responsibility, there's no reason to doubt that they did in fact do the deed.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by TheAgentNineteen
This is absolutely disgusting. These candidates have the same rights to Privacy that ANY of us, as American Citizens, do as well.


Funny, this argument. The issue is, that Palin may be using her personal email to conduct government business when that is not legal. Even though the methods to catch her were not sound, if true, she broke the law. People have a right to privacy, but when cops chase a suspect into somebody else's backyard and the cops find pot plants, that person will be busted, regardless if the suspect and cops violated their privacy or not.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by d11_m_na_c05
How bout we wait and see what dirt's brought out.


How 'about not. Despite your political affiliation (and I speak to a general audience), it is absolutely disgusting for any of us to revel in the fact that someone's privacy was deliberately invaded in order to discredit them. As much as I dislike Obama, I would have the same feelings if this happened to him.

How about the loss of security with regards to the Patriot Act. Weren't we all screaming about that (and still are)? But, because it was hacked, it's o.k. to see whatever "dirt" there is? Coverup? Hardly. Protecting one's privacy? Absolutely. I'd do the same thing if it were me and I was a high profile individual.

There has to be some boundry that shouldn't be crossed. But, now that this has happened, it will become media fodder for the remainder of the week/weekend, especially if any "dirt" is mysteriously leaked.

Would any one of us be willing to let our privacy be so blatently invaded and published and then not try to stop it? But because she's running for VP, this makes her a fair target?

It would be wise of Obama's campaign to come out very soon and denounce this and state that this should have no bearing on the individual.

For heaven's sakes, how many emails has the White House 'lost' in the Bush administration? You want a coverup, how about looking there.

Again, this is a disgusting act of privacy invasion and Governor Palin has every right to delete, sue to have web site posts removed, sue the individual's responsible, etc.. The fact is that this is criminal and there should be strong, very strong repercusions for this act. And to reiterate, in case you didn't catch it earlier, I would ask for the same to be done if it were Obama's email that were hacked as well.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 07:24 PM
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The difference is....these weren't cops.

And if she has done business in a private account, then there are legal channels that should be gone through. But surely NO politician has ever conducted business via a private email account...right? Not excusing it, just my belief that this probably goes on all the time, democrats and republicans alike.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by 27jd

Funny, this argument. The issue is, that Palin may be using her personal email to conduct government business when that is not legal. Even though the methods to catch her were not sound, if true, she broke the law. People have a right to privacy, but when cops chase a suspect into somebody else's backyard and the cops find pot plants, that person will be busted, regardless if the suspect and cops violated their privacy or not.


Ummmm there is a HUGE difference in the situation you just gave. Someones backyard has no expectation of privacy!!! Email account vs a backyard..(aka..plain view) Do I or anyone really have to explain why there is NOOOOO comparison here?

What you should be saying is: If its ok for this retarted ANON group to do do this then COPS should be allowed to pick the locks on your front door while you sleep or aren't home, come in and search for anything illegal. If they find it...arrest you...then say..."yes judge we know what and how we did it was not "sound" but this scumbag still had child porn and coc aine....see where your logic leads us?

[edit on 9/17/2008 by rcwj75]



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 07:32 PM
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I agree. Hacking into her account isn't ethical in any way.

However, it's not the big deal people are making it into. Hopefully no financial information was stolen. We should all be assuming there was no information in there that would get her in trouble, also. So that's all fine and well.

There's really nothing to see here. It's an email account that got hacked into and proved to be useless. I assume the hackers probably thought they could dig some dirt up on her, but they obviously failed at that.

As bad as I think hacking into her email is, I don't think it's the dirtiest tricks that are being used (and it's also not anyone but the hackers responsibility - no one put them up to this but themselves). So there's no need for a blame game, and there's no need to really discuss it other than a failed attempt at gaining glory through hacking.

*Edit:

To clarify, I think putting a DVD about terrorism in newspapers to sway voters is as dirty as it gets. I don't approve of fear mongering.

[edit on 17-9-2008 by Sublime620]



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 07:37 PM
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So far I haven't seen a damning evidence that Palin is trying to avoid transparency laws. However from the way her associates handle this doesn't exactly scream 'we are transparent'.

As whether the public will rally behind Palin, wishful thinking, people love tabloids, and tabloids invade privacy. People love good dirt, and since palin is a public figure, I guess the public will consider an invasion of her privacy here and there to be just peachy.

My final thoughts on this, emails that are supposed to be public knowledge, the public has the right to know. Maybe next time ms Palin should put them where they belong!

And I'm thinking, perhaps there should be a 'search warrant' for cybercops. However it could backfire and become a tool of the government. So, as for this hacking incident, I'm just gonna let is slide and give no comment... for now.

If I miss something and Palin indeed trying to avoid transparency laws, let me know.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 07:38 PM
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One other thing....and this is my take on what REALLY happened with this.

It takes less then 5 minutes to make a yahoo email account..and its free. So any idiot can log on, create [email protected] and then email whoever they want, including themseleves. Crate outlandish emails that look to be "government works", "personal", or even "secretive"....and it all looks good but its all a fake smokescreen and HUGE hoax. I can go on yahoo right now and make [email protected] and PRETEND I (the creator) hacked it and found all this juicy BS....

Sorry but I can't jump on this...something stinks BAD!!! and the stank isn't on Palin...



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 07:39 PM
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Frankly, I think the incident was not so much an attack on Palin or Palin's privacy, than it was on secrecy. Especially since the motto of the current administration is "Secrecy is Good". They rewrote Gordon Gecko.

Anyway, I don't doubt that there is a price to pay for the revelation of secrets, and so the unveiling requires careful consideration. However, if the secrets being kept represent illegal acts and criminal activity, then those secrets don't deserve to be kept secret. In an ideal world.

The world doesn't work that way, of course, but since it does work in a way that demands secrets be kept, then all secrets are fair game for daylight. That being the logical conclusion.

To defeat the exposure of secrets, have none.

Further interest: www.eff.org...



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 07:40 PM
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Anon has done some very cool things that I have appreciated, I can't get into an uproar because it happens to be Palin and I like Palin.

And I think Anon would do this to any candidate they could.

My suggestion to Anon

Don't be so proud about having gotten access to Palins e-mail or publish anything to the net until you have dirt... real dirt

Because the person your irritating may be President and you could have kept access to that e-mail until you uncovered something GOOD...

Good enough that the person doesn't go on to President and Hack Anon

If they want to they can probably bring down every person that has visited /b on trumped up illegal porn charges and trust me your not as anon as you think on the net if the feds want to go hack for hack with you.

Anon... You wasted an opportunity here by throwing the info out before you had any real info, or perhaps there is no real info to be had on Palin and that is why she was picked

Paitence Anon Grasshoppers



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 07:44 PM
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Anonymous is not a group of hackers - it's a leaderless collective of like-minded individuals, from all walks of life.



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