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Originally posted by bsbray11
"Fact" and "belief" are both very fuzzy symbols that can have refined meaning if you "meditate" (I hate using that word!) on what they must actually represent. Even "facts" are revised over time and only represent common agreement between certain individuals in places of influence, thus even "facts" aren't really "facts." When you better understand the "fuzziness" of words like these I think it sets the stage for a realization that everything is equally arbitrary and we are all just making everything up as we go along anyway, as is convenient for us.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
There certainly are rights and there certainly are wrongs.
Originally posted by bsbray11
You have severe issues with letting go of the fallacy of an objective reality.
You can't accept that "objectivity" is an abstract concept while "subjectivity" is the only kind of reality any conscious being can possibly know, and must experience everything through that "lense."
I really don't care for your opinions and from now on assume you are just offering personal commentary for others on my posts.
I don't know who ever convinced you that you are the righteous bearer of absolute truth, but you are too damned sure of yourself and have too big of a head to be very enlightened.
Now get defensive and prove me right. I'm talking about things that are totally unrelated to science and math, you're right.
Do all Zen Buddhist or Hindu concepts have mathematical equivalence? Are you going to make the logical fallacy of telling me that lacking such an equivalent invalidates any message my words may mean to convey whatsoever?
What makes you so damned sure you should be able to relate to everything I say anyway? Can you explain at least that last question to me?
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
Everything is related to science and math.
Originally posted by bsbray11
What you mean to say is, "Everything I have known and experienced, seems to relate to math and science."
That's what you mean to say whether you know it or not.
Are you familiar with Zen Buddhist concepts and states of mind? I don't care what your "opinion" is, just what your experience has been, if any.
You have severe issues with letting go of the fallacy of an objective reality.
You can't accept that "objectivity" is an abstract concept while "subjectivity" is the only kind of reality any conscious being can possibly know, and must experience everything through that "lens."
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
You've also failed to justify these statements and provide any reason or logic behind them. I'll be waiting, that is unless you no longer stand by them.
Originally posted by bsbray11
They justify themselves. Name me one scientist, observer, instrument, etc., anything, that can tell you definitely what something objectively "is" and not just what their subjective view of it seems to be. It's absurd for me to ask this, because you can't do it, because what I just posted was correct to begin with.