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LHC and element 115

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posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 05:04 PM
Do you think it would be possible to create element 115 using the massive energy of the LHC?

The reason I ask is I remember Bob Lazar saying somewhere that a stable form of element 115 could be formed in supernova or in massive stars. He also states that this element could be used as an energy source for producing anti-gravity. I know some people may not consider Bob's words as credible, but I find him pretty convincing....

Are there any scientists on here (or anyone else in the know) who would care to comment on this?



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 05:28 PM
There will be easily enough energy to create a nucleus of 115, but it won't happen because the constiuent protons and neutrons, even if they are created in the right proportion, will not be in the right configuration to coalesce into a nucleus. In reality, jets of quarks and gluons are created in a high-energy collision, which then "fragment" into hadrons, but then again what you have a "spray", or a jet, of particles, and not something that's relatively stable, as in a nucleus.

posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 05:39 PM
Interesting... thanks for the reply.


posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 04:42 AM
Element 115 has already been synthersised along with Element 118, I believe Lazar indicated that E115 was ' used ' within the Craft's on board particle accelerator to produce antimatter and therefore anti gravity ?, it does seem a little strange that the LHC which is an international project comes along shortly after the E115 element has been successfully copied, are they trying to emulate or recreate what happens inside the Gravity amplifiers that Lazar talked about, lets face it CERN made no attempt at trying to hide that they could experience tiny black holes and antimatter ??

I am no scientist by any stretch of the imagination, but Lazars interview came years before we successfully recreate both E115 and the worlds largest and most advanced particle accelerator within a few years of each other, I believe Bob, watch his eyes as he talks...he is looking over to the reflective side of his body indicating memories are being described, typically a liar looks to the other side indicating creativity.

Lets face up to things, space is would be a damn lonely place if we were the only beings that populated infinity, and lets also face that up to the fact that we are talking about science not fiction any more....did the Dinosaurs ever think we could fly in machines or split the atom ? errr no because they had small brains too !

Just my Viewpoint ...thanks

posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 04:45 AM
Ununpentium (pronounced /uːnuːnˈpɛntiəm/ ( listen)[1] oon-oon-PEN-tee-əm) is the temporary name of a synthetic superheavy element in the periodic table that has the temporary symbol Uup and has the atomic number 115.
It is placed as the heaviest member of group 15 (VA) although a sufficiently stable isotope is not known at this time that would allow chemical experiments to confirm its position. It was first observed in 2003 and only about 30 atoms of ununpentium have been synthesized to date, with just 4 direct decays of the parent element having been detected. Four consecutive isotopes are currently known, 287-290Uup, with 289Uup having the longest measured half-life of ~220 ms, although the isotope 290Uup may well have an even longer half-life (only a single decay has been measured leading to poor accuracy).

posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 05:00 AM
Lazar's exposition of element 115 is a refined case of BS, and he is a fraud. There are more than one thread here on ATS on this subject.

I viewed his more recent video on alternative energy technology, and he really strikes me as disingenuous, basically trying to confuse the viewer and claiming he used an accelerator to sythesize LiD, which can't possibly be true.

posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 05:25 AM
FYI - john Lear has a thread on this exact topic.

I don't recall the exact nature (angle) of the discussion, but it can be found here:

I hope that helps the all interested parrties.



OOoops. It's not John Lear's thread. However he did contribute quite a bit to the discussion, The thread was started by someone else.

[edit on 13-7-2010 by EyesII]

posted on Jun, 19 2015 @ 01:28 PM
Supposedly, if you had an isotope of 115 with a weight of 299, then it would be in the alleged "island of stability", which may then be Lazar's 115.

That isotope also has the added quality then, of expanding to the next energy shell, which would extend the Strong Nuclear Force (or what Lazar called Gravity A) maybe enough to extend past the nucleus, and be tapped as Lazar mentioned? Intriguing anyhow. And...makes me skeptical of any who dismiss it out of hand. We couldn't make 115 a decade ago at all, so kind of ignorant to assume we can't soon make a stable isotope...

posted on Jun, 19 2015 @ 03:03 PM
a reply to: Gazrok

The "island of stability" is a relative thing. The general consensus is that while the half-lives of the theorized isotopes would be significantly longer than the existing unstable isotopes, you're still looking at seconds to days. That said, some researchers are speculating you might see half-lives measured in millions of years for the island elements, so it's not totally out of the question that some of them might be stable enough to have practical applications.

As for Lazar's theories and statements on using superheavy elements for gravity manipulation, they seem...unlikely. He talks about using proton bombardment to produce a short-lived isotope of livermorium, which decays back into 115 and releases some kind of gravatic effect (a "gravity wave" or graviton particles), which is very inconsistent with what we know about radioactive decay. Gravity manipulation in itself isn't an improbable way to achieve FTL travel, but...well, it'll be some veeeery weird exotic matter, not superheavy elements from particle accelerators.

(Short explanation on the above gravity manipulation concept: basically, it's theorized that using exotic matter with a negative mass, you could create an Alcubierre warp field that achieves FTL by warping space around the vehicle, not actually moving at superluminal speed.)

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