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Sarah Palin in Hebrew????

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posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 12:41 PM
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Hello everyone, i have been a reader of ATS for atleast 4-5 years now. I beleive i was googling information on the September 11th theory and came accross a post and its been on my favorites ever sence. I consider myself knowledgable of most of the subjects i come accross but not as well read as other members so i never took the initiative to post. (i suck at spelling also)

Anyways, to the subject matter.

Sarah Palin.

"This calls for wisdom, let anyone with understanding calculate the number of the beats, for it is the number of a person. 6 three score"
-Revelation 13:18

I am sure those who are familiar with this bible verse and the "adding of the antichrists name equaling 666" are also familiar with Gematria and Hebrew.

its something i have tried myself to study for a while now.

I beleive that through Gematria the numbers will add up.
I also beleive in balance, in the sence that everything has to have an opposite to exist in the world. No good without evil, no angels without demons, etc.

I beleive in a historical sence this may have some truth to it also.

Sarah by Defenition indicates a "Woman of high rank and is sometimes translated as "princess" or "Goddess"

www.behindthename.com...

Sarah was also the wife of Abraham, and Mother of Isaac.

Now following Gematria to the best of my knowledge, and using the standard mispar gadol, we have translated her name and gematria values of the letters into the following. (we being a small group of freinds who have been discussing this for a while)

Sarah translates perfectly into "Shin, Reysh, Hey" according to Hebrew translations. Sence Sarah was originally Saray (see link above) we have had some discrepency about whether shin reysh hey is the spelling of Sarah or Saray. But assuming it is the spelling for Sarah, it should equal the following in gematria.

Shin = 300
Reysh = 200
Hey = 5

Total = 505 on Sarah.

Palin is a little harder to translate sence you don't have a example to go off of in biblical hebrew. But what i have came up with is Pey, Aleph, Lamedh, Nun. If anyone can confirm or deny that this is proper spelling that would help alot. But if we assume it is, then the numberical value of her last name should be the following:

Pey = 80
Aleph = 1
Lamedh = 30
Nun = 50

Total = 161 on Palin

Together that is a perfect 666 in gematria. This is the first time i have had someone equal 666 in Gematria (i did reagen in english tho!
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But before i go and get in my bomb shelter in fear of the republicans i need to make sure that this is right.

One of my freinds made a comment last night when we talked aobut it that stayed on my mind also, because i could not verify or deny his claim becuase i do not know anything about it.

But he told me that originally the numerology behind "6" represented Woman, Venus and the fall of man. He then said that would correlate with the fact that Eve was the fall of Adam (having him bite the apple) and that the antichrist would indeed be a woman.

Now thats mostly speculation, as i said i am not sure and havent been able to really research it like i wanted.

But what i really am posting this for is

Could we be on to something?
Does anyone see any flaws with the way this was calculated?
Are we using the proper translation for her name?

Any response would help


Thanks for your time

Contra




posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 01:47 PM
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The only problem is she is woman. Now that doesn't mean she couldn't be the woman on "the back of the beast". Who would the beast be? If elected it would be the McCain or simply "The son of Cain" to complete your theory. It would be interesting if that was the case.

Palin in Hebrew means "child" if memory serves me correct.

Peace

[edit on 16-9-2008 by letthereaderunderstand]



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 01:50 PM
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Boy that thread is interesting, actually! Not that I believe in numerology, but SRH_PLN+Son of Cain is a little unnerving.



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 02:07 PM
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Or maybe Palin's pregnant baby is really going to be the antichrist and mccain is the dad!

Which is crazy... and i dont really beleive, but for the sake of bringing ideas together...

That would be the "balance" i spoke of earlier.

Sarah wife of Abraham mother of Isaac

versus

Sarah wife of Mccain mother of Anthichrist?

lol



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 02:26 PM
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Cool. Though i see several problems. There is no such word as Palin (polin is Poland though
) in Hebrew. And it should be written as PLYN (Pey Lamed Yud Nun ). No root such as PLN exist so there is no indirect translation either.
Sorry if it messes up nice gematriya.



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by Contra1989
Or maybe Palin's pregnant baby is really going to be the antichrist and mccain is the dad!

Which is crazy... and i dont really beleive, but for the sake of bringing ideas together...

That would be the "balance" i spoke of earlier.

Sarah wife of Abraham mother of Isaac

versus

Sarah wife of Mccain mother of Anthichrist?

lol


Ok. Christ is from Moshiac and means "Anointed". The lord said "out of zion will come saviourS".

Yeshua means "self existent is salvation".

To be anointed was done with "shemen" oil literally "to smear shemen". Here's another way to put it..."therefore a man must leave his mother and father and cling INSIDE of the woman of him, and the two become one flesh"...This is the Gospel...."The two become one flesh".

Self existent is salvation anointed = Yeshua Moshiac who is manifested in the flesh, born of water(breaking) and blood.

The man of sin is the one who commits the "Abomination of Desolation". This is sitting in the temple(body) and proclaiming yourself top of the heap. Jesus asked why have you forsaken me, because he had no children.

For each man, I SHALL REQUIRE BLOOD....why? Vessel....The life is IN the blood. If we do not "anoint" our women, they will not bring forth "the anointed". "and a child shall lead them"

God is not mystical or a trickster. Salvation is Generation to Generation as it always has been and for this he must prepare a new place for the "spirit of us.

666 is the recall of life past and then dieing in it with out a new heir to make it 6666....it is a ratio. 600 60 6 decreasing in 10ths to the final generation. This one....Peace


[edit on 16-9-2008 by letthereaderunderstand]



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 02:54 PM
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I don't imagine for a second that ancient Hebrews would consider putting their secret numerology messages in the alphabet of a Germanic-French-Latin-Greek hybrid language that has yet to be developed.

So no, Sarah Palin is not the devil, or any derivative thereof.

Sometimes a coincidence is simply a coincidence.



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 03:19 PM
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Oy vey.
Why use Palin? Try using her maiden name instead.
Then try barracuda.
Is barracuda kosher?

Mods!
Rumors Lies and Innuendo alert!



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 03:40 PM
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Actually barracuda is kosher. I think.
And it sums up to 317. Hope it helped. By the way, thanks for teaching a new (to me of course) word - innuendo.



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 08:27 PM
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"I want you, barracuda....oh,oh,oh."

Think about this name for a moment. Barracuda. We have Bar=Son of. Next Cuda, drop the c. Now add the Y, Yuda, so...BarJuda....Kin of Juda....peace



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 02:45 PM
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That's cute, but extremely creative.
Can you do the same for the word "Barack"?
If we add the same Y, do we come up with Kin of Yak?

[edit on 17-9-2008 by Alxandro]



posted on Sep, 18 2008 @ 03:12 AM
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Revelation was written in greek, which can also be converted to numbers, and it never says this is the name of "the Antichrist", it says it is the name of the beast. Beasts in prophecy are kingdoms. Contrary to popular belief, there is no singular person referred to in scripture as "the Antichrist", it talks of many, and they were even around during the time of the Apostles.

Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.




Mark of the Beast – Number of the Beast 666
The beast rising up out of the earth (Rev 13:11-18) is the great whore, the false church (the Roman Catholic Church) that rides and has powerful influence, and often, full control over the government (Holy Roman Empire). The mark of the beast is a religious mark, not a governmental mark such as a Social Security number, or a National Identity number. Those who receive the mark of the beast will suffer the corrective plagues of God's Judgment and are contrasted with the saints, those who are keeping God's commandments. Therefore, the mark has something to do with commandment breaking.

A mark is an identifying sign or brand. One group is forced to bear the sign, brand, or mark of the beast to work or buy or sell. Keeping the fourth commandment, the Sabbath, is a sign, mark, or brand that identifies God's people (Ex 31: 12-17). God's commandments, especially the fourth, are a sign on the hands (actions/work) and forehead (thinking/belief) of those who keep them. The mark of the beast is the enforced observance of Sunday and Satan's holidays instead of God's Sabbaths and Holy days.

Rev 13:17-18 tells us to count (compute) the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666. These verses are saying the beast has a number and it may be identified. The expression “the name of the beast,” or “the number of his name” makes plain that the number 666 is the number of the name of the kingdom or empire. The expression “it is the number of a man” shows we must also count this number in the name of the king, or ruler, over the kingdom identified as the “beast.”

The beast is the Roman Empire. It was named after Romulas, the founder and first king of Rome. His name, the name of a man, also is the name of the kingdom. Every citizen in the kingdom bears the same name – a Roman. The apostle John wrote the book of Revelation in Greek. Therefore, we should count in Greek, not in Latin.

This name, in Greek, is “Lateinos.” It means “Latin Man” or “the name of Latium,” from which region the Romans derived their origin and their language. In Greek, L=30, A=1, T=300, E=5, I=10, N=50, O=70, and S=200. They add up to 666. For 1260 years the pope has reigned and ruled over the beast. They were in effect, the religious heads of the empire, ruling over the emperors, as well as over the church.

www.cog-pkg.org...




posted on Sep, 18 2008 @ 03:32 AM
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As stated above there are many antichrists, not just one person. The Beast mentioned in Revelations only fits the pattern of the other beasts mentioned in both Revelations and Daniel if it is a world empire, rather then a person. The order of those empires being:
Babylon
Media/Persia
Greece
Rome
?? New World Order, or the Last World dominate Empire (the US?)

It makes no sense if it goes like this:
Babylon
Media/Persia
Greece
Rome
A Man/Woman

The woman riding the beast is an obvious referral back to Rome, even the RCC admits that the woman sitting on the seven hills is a reference to that.


[edit on 9/18/2008 by defcon5]



posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 02:47 AM
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Why not compute it simply with NO vowels, as in many Hebrew words?

S _'__R_'__H
300+ 200 + 5 = 505

P_'__L__'__N
80 + 30 + 50 = 160

505 + 160 = 665

There's a special rule stated somewhere in gematria (I've forgetten where I read it, maybe in regard to Greek isopsephos) that it is permissible to add or subtract just *1* within a single word-sum to "perfect" it, so technically, the "foundation" of her name does indeed equal 666!



posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 04:24 AM
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Damn I didnt think the devil would be so hot.

(+ the Gematria is 616 anyway, not 666)



posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 05:49 AM
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I don't know what Sarah Palin is on Hebrew, but I know what Jew is on our language and on ancient english. Evil, delusion, betray. I believe this explains this thread.

Why don't you make this with numerology stuff with Obama, huh?

My, oh my. You're seeing evil into anyone and trying to back it with some thing. Good to know that mankind will create their own Armageddon with threads and philosophy like this.

By the way, it's better if you know that 666 is never was the number of evil. 666 is the number of material world and chosen reality. Look after the meaning of numbers and do not back your story with numbers what you saw in Buffy The Vampire Slayer or other "fantastic" shows from Hollywood.

[edit on 25-9-2008 by Sheridan]



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by Sheridan
I don't know what Sarah Palin is on Hebrew, but I know what Jew is on our language and on ancient english. Evil, delusion, betray. I believe this explains this thread.

Why don't you make this with numerology stuff with Obama, huh?

My, oh my. You're seeing evil into anyone and trying to back it with some thing. Good to know that mankind will create their own Armageddon with threads and philosophy like this.

By the way, it's better if you know that 666 is never was the number of evil. 666 is the number of material world and chosen reality. Look after the meaning of numbers and do not back your story with numbers what you saw in Buffy The Vampire Slayer or other "fantastic" shows from Hollywood.

[edit on 25-9-2008 by Sheridan]


I don't watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer personally, and Hollywood is the least of my concerns, but thanks for the generalizations; those are always true.

Anyways,

Everything is open to interpretation and i wanted to see what my fellow ATSers thought of something i had came up with.

6 has various numerical meanings depending on which language or societies perspective you beleive. To me it represents the number of man. I look at 7 as the number of completion, synergy and divinity, to be short of the perfection that 7 represents is to be human. Man is flawed. I could be wrong, i could be right, but either way thats just my belief on it through what i have read and learned. You may be better read then me in the subject and legitimately be able to prove that this is incorrect, but simply flaming my post and saying "it never was the number of evil" is completely false.

But to each his own... I normally would have a good quote to support this, but my Grandfather comes to mind and i beleive he said it best to my drunk uncle last christmas when he said, "You just want me to be wrong because you disagree"



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by Contra1989
Sarah Palin.

"This calls for wisdom, let anyone with understanding calculate the number of the beats, for it is the number of a person. 6 three score"
-Revelation 13:18


I hate beats! Especially the ones that go tum tum tum tum tum.. and 666 that's pretty fast.

This scripture doesn't refer to the anti-Christ or any of that mumbo jumbo that Hollywood loves to put in our minds.

Yes you are right about how the numbers are used... but back in the day this was a way to "hide" what they were trying to say so actually this was intended as a prophecy of when Rome was going to fall. Or so they say...

What ever you hear, read or see is always the latest lie.



posted on Dec, 30 2008 @ 11:51 PM
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Hi, I would like to also add, I have done some research on Greek, Hebrew, and meanings of names, the name of the woman first mentioned in this blog, has very much been revealed to many in very mighty ways as thee Antichrist, the Beast, The Dragon, The Serpent, The Son of the Morning, Lucifer, The Devil, and Satan.....Jesus Christ is my personal Lord and Saviour, if I am wrong, then you know I haven't said Jesus Christ told me personally, but I would suggest you at least consider it as a reality, Now I have tried in sincerely ernesty to shake this idea, to try and make sense of this matter...Let me first say, I have a very difficult time seeing that person any other way, than the Antichrist,...If you look up the plans for the U.S., you will find it's demise, in the form of the North American Union, and the new currency the Amero..Notice a woman on it...Heard of the RFID Chip ? Martial Law ? Ram, and Goat Prophecy..Iran is about to be attacked, and the Goat would not have to touch the land to bomb them, neither by Sea, or Air..Ok..In Hebrew..he or she does not always refer to gender..Palin..in Greek can mean, again,backward,to say again, notice her speachs,,,,, in hebrew the phrase...asarah is male, or masculine..Palin also means Pale,most Pale, Pale shade of green, Pale horse of Revelation,to serve...Sarah also equals nine, and there are only 6, Americans with that name.....Here are some speculative similarities, the Antichrist with a fierce countance, will honor a God of Forces, Military Force, Air Force, Satan is the Spirit of the Air, connection ? Seem to have solutions, arise from a low political position, such as a governor....? Isn't Pitbulls a team name associated with her, Palinal...means chewing , backwards Jaw...Notice how Strong she appears in countenance for a woman, stout above her fellows ? I urge anyone to look these things up in the Holy Bible, and consider the possibility that this individual is the one fortold within the scriptures, and in the least be aware, and be prepared, Hell and Death will follow, the mark of the beast....Men's hearts failing them for fears...Turn to Jesus Christ, consider all that has been said above,and pray to the Father of Heaven and Earth, the Father of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, The God of Abraham, The God of Issac, and the God of Jacob, THE Great " I AM ", The Alpha , and Omega, Almighty God



posted on Dec, 31 2008 @ 12:03 AM
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well my name translated in hebrew is Chavah = em kol chai , I am interested in what that equates to using your maths.


oh and what does 3 score mean?

add the name up three times?




[edit on 31-12-2008 by Thurisaz]




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