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Is Punk Dead?

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posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 11:05 PM
Ever since the 70's when punk started, it has been dying out and coming back just as popular as before. It happened in the 80's, and it happened in the 90's as well. But it's now the 2000's and it still hasn't made its long-overdue come back.

I play guitar in a punk band, and recently while playing at a Battle of the Bands contest, one of the judges made a remark backstage that we were playing "a horrible, long dead genre of music". I get that she may not be into punk (all the other judges gave us great scores, we even got a best drummer award) but why is punk suddenly being perceived as dead and not coming back? I admit it is starting to seem like that, but it has to make a come back sooner or later... I hope.

posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 01:07 AM
reply to post by Prozac Heart

I dont think its dead....its just become so commericialised these days that it sounds like pop music, and its till referred to as punk!!!

There are still some great punk bands out there and Im sure it will be back

posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 01:51 AM
Punk to me is dead. The attitude remains, but as far as the music? Absolutely dead!

Thank god for it, though!

posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 02:29 AM

Originally posted by OzWeatherman
There are still some great punk bands out there and Im sure it will be back

Yeah there are some good punk bands out there... but they're more underground and it's hard to get their albums etc.

I hate Good Charlotte

posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 03:27 AM
Blink 182 and Good Charlotte are pretty on par, aren't they?

Same concept? Sound over substance?

posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 07:03 AM
reply to post by DeadFlagBlues

Yeah but blink is more potty humor, so I can relate to the songs as I'm pretty immature myself lol. Plus blink dont really call themselves whereas good Charlotte try so hard to call themselves punk.

posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 09:21 AM

I hate Good Charlotte

you get a star for that alone ....

punk rock music to me.... Minor Threat, Dead Kennedys, Circle Jerks, NOFX, SFA, Misfits, Social Distortion, Youth of Today.... they all had different ideas but shared the same thing. They werent accepted socially by the standards at the time.

These days, got to Hot Topic, get your shirt, lip ring, etc - now you can consider yourself punk rock. Its a fashion statement no thanks to MTV.

I truly mean no disrespect to anybody for their choice of clothes or music, but I'm proud to say I grew up in a time where I was fighting to skate where I wanted with my friends...or getting hassled cuz my haircut....

p.s. punks not dead... its in hibernation - it just needs a rest

[edit on 16-9-2008 by spikedmilk]

posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 10:05 AM
Punk will never die.

Music is such a marketable industry these days that a band's image is just as important as the music that they produce. That' if the band is lucky enough to even have a say over the music that is being put out under their name. So many bands try to be punk in their image and lyrics, but it is so transparent that it is excruciating to listen to it.

I believe punk is alive and well.. it is just overshadowed by this "pop punk" scene and the amount of marketing we see for these faux-punk bands.

But a problem does exist in the viewer as well. It's been widely accepted that if a legitimate punk band begins to market themselves and starts to produce videos and "play the game", that they've sold out.

Personally.. I don't think it is too tough to differentiate these types of bands.

Punk and "pop punk" is black and white.

posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 10:33 AM

Originally posted by spikedmilk
p.s. punks not dead... its in hibernation - it just needs a rest
[edit on 16-9-2008 by spikedmilk]

You just completely restored my faith man. Thanks! (for the star too, lol).
Yeah, I love The Misfits, Screeching Weasel, The Dead Kennedys, NOFX, The Sex Pistols, The Ramones etc.
You my friend, summed up what punk is about in one simple post.

posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 10:35 AM
reply to post by chissler

You're completely correct as well, my faith is well and truly restored now

posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 02:48 PM
....when in doubt, bust out the classics. The Clash, Johnny Thunders, UK Subs - Now theres a band

...... and one of my all time favorites .....the Vandals. Skip all this new mediocre stuff, theres a ton out there to listen to my friend.

edit to add...

....if you haven't already, check out Dropkick Murphy's. They have have a few albums, my personal favorite being "Blackout"

[edit on 16-9-2008 by spikedmilk]

posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 08:37 PM
reply to post by spikedmilk

Yes! I love the Dropkick Murphys, I'm listening to Rocky Road to Dublin right now haha. Yeah, I love The Clash: Rock the Casbah, Should I Stay or Should I go, London Calling, etc.

Gotta love the classics

posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 11:30 PM
Is Punk dead? No..It jsut smells that way.

really though. the original Punk style dies a long time ago. It has just evolved are has been 'reinvented' into various other types of music as listed above.

posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 03:09 AM
The last good punk band I recall is At the Drive In. But even they realized the confinement of the genre and busted open the head of their sound and formed the hydra freak beast experimental prog. group called the Mars Volta

Invalid Litter Department

I just love this song!

You know I think punk is alive and well in attitude today but it has mutated as others have already pointed out. To me a lot of these groups today are making a sick attempt to stretch a sound and it's already snapped long before they got their money grubbing fingers upon it.

Good Charlotte is not punk. It's an insult to the genre and G. G. Allin's Poo is more talented then they will ever be.

[edit on 9/17/2008 by eye open doors]

posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 06:14 AM
I refer you gentlemen to this thread;

Punk will never die; it is more than music, it is a state of mind and being.

Cock SParrer, one of the best Oi bands of all time released a new album fairly recently and still cut it live.

Riot Squad.

Jake Burns has maintained his integrity throughout the years and Stiff Little Fingers recently celebrated 30th anniversary of their classic album Inflammable Material with yet another sell out tour.

Johnny Was

As previously stated, Dropkick Murphy's seem to get it and really cut it live.

Worker's Song

Tim Armstrong get's a lot of criticism from certain quarters, I think he's #in great and tries to spread the word whilst remaining true. If he makes a bit of money doing it, wtf, who cares?

Roots Radicals

Must admit, don't listen to many of the younger Punk bands nowadays, they just seem like a bunch of clones. As John said, 'they just don't get it!'.

As for Good Charlotte, give me a break, they are a pop band just like New Kids On The Block, (or should that be 'Men Approaching Middle Age On The Block'?).

Had a bit of time for Green Day and thought the American Idiot album was excellent, but saw them live on that tour. All went really well till the lights dimmed, they asked the audience to get their lighters out and they played 'We Are The Champions'.....?
WTF was that about.
I noticed a few 'old timers' like myself looking in disgust at them.
They lost so much credibility in that one moment.
How do they expect to be taken seriously when performing cabaret like that?

posted on Sep, 18 2008 @ 07:36 PM
Punk is not dead, but it has - for better or worse - evolved. The attitude and ethos lives on, but not in the boybands re-packaged for 'emo kids', like Good Charlotte or Panic at the Chemical Fallout Disco.

posted on Sep, 21 2008 @ 09:40 AM
Short answer yes, long answer no.

Commercially real punk is dead in the water but most major cities on earth have a healthy underground movement.

I'm so thank full to be from Brisbane Australia where we have always had a big scene and we spawned the saints

To get a gauge on Brisbane punk history or even give some of the bands a listen check out" target="_blank" class="postlink" rel="nofollow">Brisbane punkfest which is run as a non-profit cooperative between various people in the scene and I'm proud to say I am a part of.

The whole fashion punk thing is wearing off for now, it seems to blow up every 10 years or so and right now is entering a quiet phase. thank god.

uhh the link is stuffed, ive tryed fixing it but in any case it leads to the punkfest myspace page.

[edit on 21-9-2008 by ivzm]

[edit on 21-9-2008 by ivzm]

posted on Sep, 21 2008 @ 01:43 PM
I'm pretty sure punk did come back for a little while right around 2000. In junior high (which was 2000-2001 for me), I remember my friend and I were the only two "punks" in the school. We listened to Rancid, NOFX, etc. Then, when I went into highschool, we were no longer being looked at funny for our outrageous hairstyles, but complimented on our "liberty spikes" People started listening to crap bands like New Found Glory or Blink 182 and calling it punk. Everybody was shopping at Hot Topic. Come to think of it, yeah, punk was popular for a little while, which in itself is a contradiction.

Anyway, now that my tastes in music have evolved and become more refined, I personally think that most punk music sounds like crap. I still love the Misfits and some other punk bands, but punk music just doesn't have anything more to offer. It all sounds exactly the same. The same power chord progressions, the same vocals, the same lyrical content. I can learn an entire punk song on guitar in about 20 seconds. What made it so great for its time was how revolutionary it was. When everyone else was doing the same thing, these guys were beating on their guitars, yelling into the microphone, and dressing in a way that offended. But these days, its all been done, and it offends hardly anybody. Punk, because of its nature, doesn't have room to evolve, otherwise you have to stop calling it punk rock and start calling it something else. I'm sure the revolutionary attitudes will live on, but they'll most likely become associated with some other type of music.

posted on Sep, 21 2008 @ 08:04 PM
reply to post by Herman

I'd go so far as to say its not as much a style of music as an attitude and a fire inside you. I've seen bands that sounded punk as hell be the fire wasn't there and they just weren't as good in the end.

posted on Sep, 23 2008 @ 06:47 AM

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