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Child sex ring at the White House

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posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 11:17 PM
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posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 11:18 PM
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Yeah, thanks. I have been to these. That is why I am here with my questions. I appreciate these links and if anyone comes here for the thread title and reads those pages without ever adding to the thread, then that is really great. I really want as many people to hear about this as much as possible.

I guess I have my grumpy pants on because this story has a bad habbit of making people gloss over it, hear it and move on, or tell the story it reminds them of. It has never been resolved to my satsifaction and I cannot find the answers to that anywhere on ATS or the rest of the web.

I appreciate the links, sorry that I just thought that it should take more than one page before there are more than three posts about a different topic altogether. I do not mean to disparage anyone's addition. I just want to either stick to the topic. The on-topic links are a great add, thanks.

The Other stuff is interesting too, just think we covered where to go read about that stuff.

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posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 11:20 PM
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posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 11:41 PM
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This is just one of those topics that is so well covered up, and so few people are willing to believe, that it can be difficult to discuss beyond hearsay.

Quite frankly I do believe there could be a large underground child sex ring servicing the worlds elites, there is enough evidence pointing to this. Also, one of the reasons I believe we in the current culture have drifted away from younger age marriages are because the elites want those privileges for themselves. Remember they view us as not worthy, below the law. They are above the law, they create the law so that those who are not worthy will follow it. This applies to drugs, speeding, money issues, and sex, among other things. We live in a controlled environment, they are the controllers.



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 11:43 PM
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*sigh*
I am having dial up problems and my post accidently posted 3 times in a row.....

I am just trying to help you. I have no idea what you know, what you dont know. This case OBVIOUSLY is of great interest to me, thus the reason why i bought the book and have all the links.

Please dont be snippy when people are tryng to help.

I can not answer your questions, because I dont know. I have the exact same questions! I was just trying to help


All of the links and info provided is all interchanged and all have to do with each other. It is such a deep webbed screwed up horrible mess. I personally am gladd to see this topic surface again!

[edit on 9/16/2008 by greeneyedleo]



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 11:47 PM
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You are right, that is why I edited my post to try to explain better. I am sorry for snapping. Like I said, this subject comes up and it is five miutes before we are on to something else. So after a page of "go read about Cahty O'brien instead" posts, I reacted baddly to more additions of just external links. That was horribly wrong and reactionary of me. Any addition about this story is a big help. I was being selfish anyway. I think anything on this topic that comes up could only help and I do appreciate your links. In fact, I am sure it will not hurt me to go over them again and see if there is not something there than can help me find the right place and way to ask what it is I am looking for.

I am glad you are interested in this topic, otherwise who would answer me at all if there were not people who already had an interest. I appologize, anything on topic is welcome, really.



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 11:49 PM
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Hey, no worries!


Again, im glad the topic has resurfaced. Thanks
Hopefully it will draw more interest! I need to finish the book now!!



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 11:54 PM
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Originally posted by greeneyedleo
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Hey, no worries!


Again, im glad the topic has resurfaced. Thanks
Hopefully it will draw more interest! I need to finish the book now!!


Well please let us know if it has any relevant information after this all went away. I completely understand how hard it is to read for fun when you already spend so much time reading because you have to. I just cannot convince myself to spend any more time reading 100s of pages to find nothing new so I am eager to hear how you find it.



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 11:58 PM
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Alright staying on topic this time, promise!

Anyway you bring up a good point Ionized:


Quite frankly I do believe there could be a large underground child sex ring servicing the worlds elites,


This actually seems pretty likely, there is a documentary coming out that actress Ashely Judd was involved in about the child sex/slave ring in America. Apparently it is estimated here alone it is a billion dollar business, with numbers like that you can be sure some elites are in on the abuse.

It really is troubling that so little pay attention to these things but the media hardly mentions this. I heard about this documentary on a hollywood entertainment show, not even on a news channel.

I really wish there was information on what happened to the children the OP mentioned and why many have little or no recollection of these events. Puzzling and disturbing.



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 11:58 PM
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That does seem to be the deal. I guess my issue is exactly that. They have everything so controlled. There is no way a story like that would make it to any reputable news source today.

So what bugs me is that it did once. How have they been able to make us look at it without the utmost shock and anger and be up in arms over. How do they trick us into looking at something like this and then just wandering off to the next intersting thing? That must be my problem. Why the hell are we so easily lead away from something like thist by a blurry UFO pic, or Perez Hilton, or whatever your vice is. I am guilty of it.

You say they control everything and I believe it. I just want to know how we have this and they can still get us to let it go.



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 11:59 PM
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This is a topic I too remember and have checked on occasinally while doing research on other topics, just to see if anything new has ever happened with it. I originally heard about this case because of the link with the Johnny Gosch case in Iowa and the supposed links to this child sex ring in Washington. From what I can see there are some people still trying to keep this alive and new information about it occasionally appears on Jonny Gosch's mother's webiste...her name is Norren Gosch.

Here is an interesting link with images of some of the original newspaper stories on the sex ring, if that helps at all. I know nothing about the actual site these newspaper images are on (credible/reliable or not) but at least the newspaper images seem to be credible and real from what I can discern.

Child Sex Ring Newspaper Articles in link



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 12:06 AM
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Ok. Im just throwing this out there....

But due to when all of this took place....we did not have the technology of today: the internet....that allowed news to spread FAST by thousands of people....all awhile doing super fast research and getting it out there.

I never heard of this case before I came to ATS and my interest was sparked immiediately. So, imagine all those people out there who have NEVER heard about this. Yes, it made paper headlines. But across the country, at that time...how many people actually heard about it?

Did we even have FOX,CNN, MSNBC back then? There were no blogs, no message boards....nothing.

So maybe this is why the case died. There was no way for it to spread to the masses of people. And those who knew about it didnt have loud enough voices to be heard...nor the means to get their voice out there to the world.

Eh. Just some thoughts


[edit on 9/17/2008 by greeneyedleo]



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 12:07 AM
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LOL, so I am a jerk right. I do see what a huge subject this is. I guess I was worried about it expanding out to it's natural branches so quickly. I can always steer it back. This is interesting other info, especially for people that may not have heard of any of it and i hope this or any other thread do just that. Sorry I am a grouch.

Do you know the name of the movie or when it is coming out or anything? Is it a documentary or a movie movie? I think you bring up the most interesting question that I have thought about in the past but cannot believe did not occur to me to ask here.

What happened to those children? All these children. If it is so huge, where do all these kids go. I am sure some junkie in the street babbling about how he was raped as a kid by Ronald Reagan would get passed over but there would have to be enough of these damaged people out there to start a trend. Wouldn't there? Do you think they are just killing them when they are not sexy anymore? I really want to know, where do these kids all go?



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 12:08 AM
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Here is an interesting link with images of some of the original newspaper stories on the sex ring, if that helps at all. I know nothing about the actual site these newspaper images are on (credible/reliable or not) but at least the newspaper images seem to be credible and real from what I can discern.

Child Sex Ring Newspaper Articles in link




That disgusting, perverted man mentioned on that site, Craig J. Spence, was found dead in a hotel room in the late 80's. I've heard about him before, heard about conspiracy theories involving him and child sex rings and the Japanese mob.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 12:13 AM
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Thanks, the link in the second post has that stuff too, plus a kind of update from 2005 if you missed that part. It touches on a tiny bit of the many many many gay scandals in the GWB white house but still kind of trails off when we get to the kids.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 12:15 AM
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Leo I think you hit the answer to the OPs question of why the silence, DEAD ON.

Back then, only the press and word of mouth, and maybe magazines and books, and perhaps other forms of low level, low distribution media, were available. It was much easier to squish information by simply not talking about it.

Today, we have this wonderful tool called the internet, a form of instant communication. It is why 'they' want to take it away. It is why so many people believe 'you can't believe anything on the internet', they have bought into what the mainstream media has told them about the internet. It is amazing that the internet has been so discredited in general when it is nothing but a medium for communication. It really goes to show the extent to which the elites in control will go in order to discredit adversaries. They actually have some people believing that the internet in general contains no valid information! What a crazy notion.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 12:17 AM
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Originally posted by MorningStar8741
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LOL, so I am a jerk right.


Not at all.



Do you know the name of the movie or when it is coming out or anything? Is it a documentary or a movie movie?



"Call + Response"

Read about it here: www.contactmusic.com...

A doc that comes out this year.



What happened to those children? All these children. If it is so huge, where do all these kids go. I am sure some junkie in the street babbling about how he was raped as a kid by Ronald Reagan would get passed over but there would have to be enough of these damaged people out there to start a trend. Wouldn't there? Do you think they are just killing them when they are not sexy anymore? I really want to know, where do these kids all go?


It is a chilling question isn't it? You'd think some who were involved in the more recent stuff during the 80's may have come forward at some point right?

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posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 12:20 AM
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Originally posted by greeneyedleo
Ok. Im just throwing this out there....

But due to when all of this took place....we did not have the technology of today: the internet....that allowed news to spread FAST by thousands of people....all awhile doing super fast research and getting it out there.

I never heard of this case before I came to ATS and my interest was sparked immiediately. So, imagine all those people out there who have NEVER heard about this. Yes, it made paper headlines. But across the country, at that time...how many people actually heard about it?

Did we even have FOX,CNN, MSNBC back then? There were no blogs, no message boards....nothing.

So maybe this is why the case died. There was no way for it to spread to the masses of people. And those who knew about it didnt have loud enough voices to be heard...nor the means to get their voice out there to the world.

Eh. Just some thoughts


[edit on 9/17/2008 by greeneyedleo]


You totally have a point. And for some reason, I mistakenly said this was the Washington Post. I am not really all that sure how big the Washington Times was at that time. I can understand why it may not have spread like wild fire but then again, this is the white house. I mean, even then, every news outlet had press at the white house so it is not like this happened in the Kansas Times and noone heard. This is the White House. Where was all the press on this from all over the country? There is plenty of info about the White House and Washington from that time, so why not this.

I do not mean to take away from your point, I agree to a point. But we have it here, and I heard about it first many years ago when studying Satanic cults. So it has been around but just in the fringes. But look how many other threads you had on it. So how many people have seen it now? How many people have read that article now and still...nothing. I mean it just seems odd to me that I know Reagan liked Jelly beans. Someone covered that!



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 12:26 AM
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Originally posted by rapinbatsisaltherage


It is a chilling question isn't it? You'd think some who were involved in the more recent stuff during the 80's may have come forward at some point right?

[edit on 17-9-2008 by rapinbatsisaltherage]



Sorry, the jerk part was a statement, not a question. Don't argue with me about it!


Thanks, for the info about the movie.
But yes, you asked a rather chilling question. They would be in their 30's and 40's right? I mean we do not know exactly what age but if they were kids, that is a safe guess right? So where the hell are all these adults that were part of a washington sex ring? Do you think it could possible be so sick that the missing kids all over walmart entrances and such, well not ALL, are taken into these sex rings and just using them until they have no use left for them and disposing of them?

It sounds really far fetched to think that but then again, so does all the rest of it. So if this level of depravity is possible....



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 12:26 AM
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Well, as you know...
This entire case leaves me and you and many just frustrated. It leaves us with way more questions then answers...and seeing a light at the end of the tunnel seems hopeless.

You raise so many good questions.....and I dont even know how any of us would go about finding answers to:

*Where are those victims NOW
*Why isnt someone who knows the case well doing everything in their power to keep this alive....well, alive on the front page of papers and headline news....

Maybe the simple answer could be..........FEAR. People die when they want to reveal truth. Maybe some of these people arent ready to risk death yet. *shrug* Maybe they feel that people just wont believe them. The entire story and all its tenticles reaching out to deeper stories is just overwhelmingly horrifying....almost like some made up Hollywood movie....despite all the facts that it is true.



[edit on 9/17/2008 by greeneyedleo]



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