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Generals as Occult Priests: Future and Past

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posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 07:58 PM
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I have reached the conclusion that if Generals could see themselves as performing a blood sacrifice, they'd be far more agreeable to their job, IE hungry for war, and therefore hungry for victory (ongoing war).

I am saying the any General, regardless of denomination, can be convinced that his God wants to win, and that the price of victory, is blood, shed. It seems that war was actually aligned along these principles in "ye olde days" when soldier's job was to stand fast and take a bullet in the face.

I think the best Generals are the ones who are aware of what Rudolph Steiner called the "Occult Value of Blood". Blood really is very interesting, as he points out. It is the bodily elixer which transmutes bodily poison in the form of carbon dioxide out of the body and brings life giving oxygen into the body. I think death on an altar can be described a bit more abstractly, and that "in country" can become "on the altar".

Perhaps the next technology is to add religion into the highest echelons of the military in a ritualistic fashion so as to encourage a more aware perspective of the value of the blood in the veins of those troops under command.

Perhaps one very powerful and occult-aware general might see that to burn victims in a nuclear oven, would be similar to any other priest performing a burnt offering? Perhaps such a General could see nuclear fire as the ultimate offering to his God? Not a Christian/Muslim/Jew of course because THEIR god values life I guess, but some old Roman/Germanic/Pagan gods don't really value life and that pantheon is A: still secretly observed I think, and B: powerful in regards to war-making as Hitler proved.

By the way, did the Nazi's lose WW2? Weird how the whole thing just exists today as a stupid skinhead shadow of its 1939-1945 glory, eh? Surely none of Hitler's Generals felt they were purposefully sacrificing young men to Ares God of War, or Eulogia or some other Pagan/Germanic/Cultic god, of that I am certain. ...I think. Wait, now that I think of it, their most amazingly huge rituals were about dead soldiers... Hmm...

I think the General of the future, is aware of the veil between life and death, and I think such a person might even have the audacity/"clarity of vision" to make large sacrifices to his God. Therefore, this would be a better General, one who is determined, like Cain of bible fame, to win at all costs, so to speak?


smallpeeps




posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 08:53 PM
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Hello and welcome back...(saw your other post...your right).

Very interesting thought. I've often wondered about this as I understand that true priests are laymen, most of the time not even realizing that's what they are, but this throws a new aspect, I haven't thought of. Thanks for your light...

I could easily see how this could be and to add to you, I believe many are officiating this post knowingly already, after all, God takes the first born of Egypt=Emitzraim=Mariamne=A meri ca...to die for country.

Good post and again greetings on your return....young grasshopper....lol...like your avy

Peace



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 11:24 AM
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I could easily see how this could be and to add to you, I believe many are officiating this post knowingly already, after all, God takes the first born of Egypt=Emitzraim=Mariamne=A meri ca...to die for country.

Yes so very true, and thanks for being aware of truth.

Yes, it is the tomb of the dead soldier which Germany worshipped under the National Socialists. Seems pretty obvious that this is just like any other child-searing altar of Moloch or whomever.

I think Generals are interesting characters. I mean, they know their men will die, and probably, the best general is the one who likes it that way --Though he may have to "upgrade" his mindset to become a "General of the Next Age" in which global control is paramount and body-counts are not as high.

The General of tommorrow would surely have to be aware of Ritualistic death and the idea that one person killed in a voluntary ritual, has more value than indiscriminate or low-tech killing.

I seem to recall that Michael Aquino was head of the OTO, which if you research their rituals, are very much built upon gay sex and the principle of the weaker and younger males being indoctrinated in the truest, deepest way possible, lol.

I guess "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" can take on a whole 'nother meaning on the sex/blood ritual level.

All I am wondering is about the "technology" of the General of tommorrow. If this were a video game like "Age of Empires" or something, I am saying there'd be an upgrade in the game from "General Commander" to "Occult Commander" and that it would come with a plus-3 modifier for victory because such a leader would see himself on a mission from God.

Or maybe Generals are just tools of the system? On whose doorstep do we lay the dead bodies from warfare, innocent or sacrificial victims? Seems like the Generals just pass the buck to the Chaplains or whatnot, but what if the two positions were to be merged?

[edit on 16-9-2008 by smallpeeps]



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 09:53 PM
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Interesting premise. According to the book "Twisted Cross", Hitler viewed the death of his own soldiers as well as the enemy soldiers as a blood sacrifice to his god. It is believed that Hitler himself was possessed by a particularly powerful demon.

I have friends who have protested outside abortion clinics. They report that often satanists show up as a counterprotest, saying that they view every abortion as a blood sacrifice to the devil.


KTK

posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 10:03 PM
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You know that sorta ties in with some other stuff I have been looking into.



Can you all post as much research/links up as possible



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 10:55 PM
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This book is hard to get since it's out of print. But if you can find it, it's a great read. It is definately not for the faint of heart and will no doubt be highly polarizing. If you are someone who doesn't believe in the existence of personified evil, forget this book and go back to sleep.

www.amazon.com...=cm_cr_pr_product_top

The link between abortion and child sacrifice
forerunner.com...

The link between abortion and nazi germany. (Planned parenthood was started by a nazi sympathizer Margaret Sanger)
www.acts1711.com...



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 12:12 AM
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Originally posted by SevenThunders
reply to post by KTK
 


This book is hard to get since it's out of print. But if you can find it, it's a great read. It is definately not for the faint of heart and will no doubt be highly polarizing. If you are someone who doesn't believe in the existence of personified evil, forget this book and go back to sleep.

www.amazon.com...=cm_cr_pr_product_top

The link between abortion and child sacrifice
forerunner.com...

The link between abortion and nazi germany. (Planned parenthood was started by a nazi sympathizer Margaret Sanger)
www.acts1711.com...



Hello 7T
What is personified evil? Personal Evil or Evil with Personality? Do you mean "cult" figures of personality that are evil? What is evil since perspective is the scope for judgment? What is evil to you might not be evil to them, they,those....Sorry Confused...Peace



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by SevenThunders
reply to post by KTK

The link between abortion and child sacrifice

The link between abortion and nazi germany. (Planned parenthood was started by a nazi sympathizer Margaret Sanger)

Ha! Ha! Now that is some sick shiznizzle... that probably is very close to the truth. The really dark slice of life is that the most powerful "sacrifices" are eaten. Ask Adam & Eve...



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand

Hello 7T
What is personified evil? Personal Evil or Evil with Personality? Do you mean "cult" figures of personality that are evil? What is evil since perspective is the scope for judgment? What is evil to you might not be evil to them, they,those....Sorry Confused...Peace


Good question. What I meant is that the idea that a person can be evil. Moreover in this case a person can actually be so morally compromised that they under the control or heavy influence of demonic agents.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 04:37 PM
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This is on topic, with the cannibalism, eating the hearts, and all...

[www.int.iol.co.za...]



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by nine-eyed-eel
This is on topic, with the cannibalism, eating the hearts, and all...

[www.int.iol.co.za...]

Great find! This is the hidden history of the human species. It is the basis for all of the sacrifices in the Bible. Adam and Even ate the "Forbidden Fruit". The FF was the "God Child". Jesus referred to the "First Sin" when He said...
He that eats my flesh, and drinks my blood, dwells in me, and I in him.
You sheeple better wake up. This is no joke. The Occult practicing leaders of this world know & practice this ancient ritual. Baaa.... baaaa.... baaaa... sheeple.



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by KOGDOG
This is the hidden history of the human species. It is the basis for all of the sacrifices in the Bible. Adam and Even ate the "Forbidden Fruit". The FF was the "God Child". Jesus referred to the "First Sin" when He said...
He that eats my flesh, and drinks my blood, dwells in me, and I in him.
You sheeple better wake up. This is no joke. The Occult practicing leaders of this world know & practice this ancient ritual. Baaa.... baaaa.... baaaa... sheeple.


That's interesting KOGDOG, but I think the Adam and Eve story is multi-levelled. I do not think it was all about cannabilistic acts.

One thing many people do not know, is that US war makers (Generals) partnered with the enemies of the Comanche tribe, and that these indians were cannibals, apparently. Team up with the cannabils might involve munching some rump roast, lol...You know like that Far Side cartoon where the scientists dressed in ape-suits are being confronted by real apes with grubs and saying "We want to see you chug 'em" ...To gain the enemy of my enemy, would you eat baby parts? Hey, I suppose it depends on your desire to gain victory over the enemy. ...What Would Jesus Dig? Is what I usually ask myself in these conumdrums.

Well, Jesus dug rituals. Whatever and whomever he was, he was reconginized as being of kingly title to something as described in his entry to Jerusalem. But was he strategically foolish with such actions? Jesus dug sticking it to The Man (Rome), while also giving The Man (Rome) his due, as evidenced by his comment, "Render unto Caesar, what is Caesar's". Or in modern parlance, "Give the C-zar/President Whatever he says is his." I do not recall Jesus commenting on the use of smart bombs in industrially militaristic zones which have hospitals in them also. But hey, such is the requirements of todays General --Who surely is one step from being a king, one could assume. Even half a dozen nukes in the hands of a Napoleanic wardork could make him king, and I think some Generals must know that.

Now in regards to the last supper, I do not think Jesus was here initiating a cannibalistic ritual, so you'll have to explain that one to me.

But yes, I do believe there are people who do gather, and eat the parts of humans, and bond themselves in this way.

I think what happened with the last supper was this: Jesus sat his disciples down and said this:

"Okay now look, you may not know this, but cannablism is a very powerful way for people to bond." Surely some of the disciples present would be shocked to hear such a thing, others, not-so-shocked. Then he continued, "Yes in fact even some of those who called Jethro "Father" did sacrifice their little children to the lava-gods and feast on the flesh thereby. These ones Moses tried to placate, as they had done this for centuries and did not know how to leave the memory of their blessed little babies, which they had slain and eaten, when they were new to the beliefs of their fathers. To unite them all, Moses needed to give them the blood they valued so much, and in this way, the era of the Bull ended and the era of the Ram was breeched, for the Bull fell unto the knife as from the position of a god. And Moses gave them the code by which they would shed blood, and it was to align their souls toward a fond memory of their little babies --the first of their flocks, which they had given unto the lava god."

...and the disciples sat there stunned, and Jesus continued "Now that I have told you this truth, and ye quake within your hearts, I say unto you, it is ended on this day, where I assemble with you, my disciples. Can ye imagine giving the best of thine flock to god who asks it when ye have just begun bearing children? Imagine ye the grief of giving up a child, years which have been spent longing for? Think ye upon this as I pass you these next items. Think ye upon what it means, to give thy ounces of blood contained within the body of thy tiny, beloved child, unto thy god. Ponder now, the wisdom of Moses and his law, which I have explained to you, and fulfilled."

So I believe that Jesus understood many things, and that flesh and the consumption of it was one of those things he understood, and that the "Last Supper" was symbolic of these things, and the truths of the past, which placed him into power, though he did not take hold of that power, presumably.

Generals and Chaplains might be fine, but to combine the two is like creating a queen on the chessboard. So many more moves are open.

But how much did Jesus and his presumed ancestor, Moses, value Generals or Chaplains?


smallpeeps



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 09:55 PM
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Wow what an powerful story. Now we know in part what has been behind the horrible violence in Africa and probably many other places, namely a cultic bloodthirsty religion. Fortunately for this man he found redemption in Jesus Christ.

[edit on 18-9-2008 by SevenThunders]



posted on Sep, 18 2008 @ 12:46 AM
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Cain Able....Khanhabil....You are fruit of the spirit and eaten alive....you are devoured behind your eyes gaze. Have you never wondered what sustains "eternal life"?

[edit on 18-9-2008 by letthereaderunderstand]



posted on Sep, 18 2008 @ 12:51 AM
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Originally posted by SevenThunders
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Wow what an powerful story. Now we now in part what has been behind the horrible violence in Africa and probably many other places, namely a cultic bloodthirsty religion. Fortunately for this man he found redemption in Jesus Christ.


Is Jesus going to have an army in the new kingdom, just to get back to the subject. Since it is of the future, I just want to speculate. If he has an army in the kingdom, will they require ranks and will they use violence if necessary?

Peace



posted on Sep, 18 2008 @ 01:19 AM
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Yes he will have an army, namely all the believers in Jesus throughout all time. Yes there will probably be ranks. Moreover they will slaughter the entire army of the antichrist and Jesus himself will throw the ac into the lake of fire. Of course the ac and his army will be responsible for killing off most of the worlds population.


However I think you misunderstood tje story of the African mass murderer and cannibal. He was a warrior in service of a demonic god who demanded human sacrifice PRIOR to becoming a christian. Jesus set him free of this kind of slavery, though it may mean that he will be executed for his crimes.



posted on Sep, 18 2008 @ 01:29 AM
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I agree with you on the study of the Baal Cains...the lava gods.

Through study, I've come to find that many of the "religious" factions were Volcano worshipers. Starting in Egypt...the pyramid..."pyre"...Fire..."mid"...Mountain...Firemountain is an exact representation of a Volcano....all phallic representations from the obilisks to the Monolith, Steples are of Egypt...The creation story of Egypt is what has made all of the creation stories starting in the abyss with a lone mountain appearing from the watery depths...the savior and solid ground. Egypt means Mary...and Mary is good ole Red White and Blue the royal colors of Egypt.

The dung beetle or Scarab...Cherub...Eagle....Angel...is representative of the workers of the land after explosion...as the phoenix rises from the ashes or the beetle rolls up the compost to begin again.

Move across the pond and you find the Mayans who have the same past as the Hebrews even the same names and rituals...Yacov-Yacob, Lord Pashcal-the pascal lamb...

The satan hand sign...the one you throw up to a metal song...that is Egyptian. When you make that sign, you are making a representation of the pyramid or Ark. The ones who made the pyramids are the same ones ruling today. "Out of Egypt I have called my son"...."he will rule as god"...In that day Yisrael shall be third, assyria Second and Egypt first...The older has served the younger...Jesus learned all of his knowledge in egypt...Pick up your ankh and follow me...

Peace



posted on Sep, 18 2008 @ 02:17 AM
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Originally posted by SevenThunders
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Yes he will have an army, namely all the believers in Jesus throughout all time. Yes there will probably be ranks. Moreover they will slaughter the entire army of the antichrist and Jesus himself will throw the ac into the lake of fire. Of course the ac and his army will be responsible for killing off most of the worlds population.

However I think you misunderstood tje story of the African mass murderer and cannibal. He was a warrior in service of a demonic god who demanded human sacrifice PRIOR to becoming a christian. Jesus set him free of this kind of slavery, though it may mean that he will be executed for his crimes.


Why would he break a commandment and kill? He saves then slaughters? I thought he said "forgive them for they know not what they do" He came to fulfill the commandments not break them...how does that fulfill it? "Do good to those that hate you for in doing so you heap...(volcano reference) hot coals on to there head". He says, "Put away your sword, for those who fight with the sword die with the sword".

I tell you humbly, that this view of what he intends in the kingdom and the administration there in, is incorrect. The flesh is a vessel carrying "the life" which must be passed on. Eating him and drinking him is literal, but it is also of suffering the "son of man". The kingdom belongs to children...generation to generation. The older always serves the younger.

Who rules as God? Who demands food? Who reaps where they have not sown? Who thunders when angry? Who's joy lights up your face, that to see them smile is heaven? Who is the mansion prepared for you, that you say, "in him I am saved"? "My salvation is generation to generation" are his words. He requires blood at the hand of every man who kills/ends life. The anti-christ you speak of is the one who commits the abomitation of desolation. Do you know what that is? Every eye will see.....

Peace



posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 08:51 AM
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It is interesting to contemplate what Jesus' Generals Would Do. It's funny. Surely Jesus' Generals wouldn't be working for the Vatican, since we saw how they laid down and even assisted the mid-20th century inquisition/war called #2.


Here is a great link which gives you an understanding of the Death Toll of "The Hemoclysm" or the Great Bloodletting. It's an interesting site. I think the body counts are understood. I also think that blood, shed in a ritualistic fashion (the consent of the victim is required) has value.

WW2 i.e. The Hemoclysm


you can get a good feeling of the level of barbarism of the Second World War by taking a look at Italy. In this theater of operations, both sides generally obeyed the rules of civilized warfare, and as a result, civilian casualties were only about a third of military casualties. Now look at the Russian Front where 12 million soldiers were killed. A civilized war fought by the rules of the Italian campaign should have only killed some 3 million civilians (and yes, I am uncomfortable using terms like "civilized" and "only" in this context, but what can you do?). The fact that the total was considerably higher indicates that this was not a very civilized theater of war.




...It's always the General, who gets to just "react" to the problems which bankers and politicians and idealogues create. Well isn't that convenient? Isn't it funny how a guy like Rommell can be almost like a god even to his "enemies"? I'd say that when people sell their souls to be Generals, they are certainly rewarded with a station and power that are largely, unparalleled on Earth. So why is it that being a General is so special, unless there is an understanding of blood and its sacrificial value by the men who are promoted highest in that clique?

Similar perhaps to whomever would roast that child-sacrifice of Molech in ye olden days (still happens, IMO) ...The parents don't want their baby to be killed, but they understand that "it has to be done for the good of the greater" ...As a result they have a sort of bond with the person who draws out the blood. Maybe this is why McArthur can order men to their death and still have mom and dad kiss his finely-buffed shoes?

I wonder how many guidance counsellors recommend the "General" career path to their students?


smallpeeps



posted on Sep, 19 2008 @ 09:40 AM
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While I understand what you're getting at, I think its a little shallow to include blood-sacrifices and Occult philosophy together.

Only a small portion of what is considered extremist and/or fanatical Occult practices even debate such topics.




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