Man calls todays stock market crash to the date, on a message board? must read., page 13
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reply posted on 18-9-2008 @ 09:19 PM by irishgrl
reply to post by smallpeeps


I always thought "neocon" was the NEW version of Conservative. As in "this aint your Grandpa's Conservative party any more"

silly me.


reply posted on 18-9-2008 @ 11:22 PM by ledbedder20
So let me get this straight:

- Corporations use deceptive accounting practices to inflate the perceived value of their business
- Said corporations then rack up debt to other corporations which they are in league with
- The deceptive accounting is made public on purpose to debase or lower that corporation's perceived value
- The executives get slaps on the wrist and get to keep their enormous separation packages while stockholders are left with worthless shares
- The government then "bails out" that company's debt so the other companies won't go out of business and "to prevent weakening the economy"
- The companies that received this "bail out" benefit from having debt from the "bailed out" corporation have actually just found a way to get lots of money from the government while looking like innocent bystanders of a company's immoral accounting practices
- The former executives are all much richer than they were and now their company can be acquired for a mere fraction of what it was worth before

Sounds like a very, very intelligent and well thought out way to make a ton of money; get it from the government and conspire with your colleagues to share monopolies over all major industries. It also works the other way around and they can just debase a legitimate company using any number of tactics so they can buy the company for less than what it's actually worth.

Pretty smart. I'm not sure what they're doing with their money, but whether it's going to London, Rome or anywhere else, people should understand the basics of the how the capitalist world around them actually works.

This is big stuff.


reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 08:26 AM by smallbusiness
reply to post by ledbedder20


last post made, www.enterprisecorruption.com...
September 19, 2008 07:42

Its all our fault cause we are all greedy!! I’ll bet the Russian army will be galvanized when they hear this.

So let me get this straight.. the bankers and the government worked overtime side-by-side to find a solution for what the banks lobbied for?

Go figure.

BTW: I have noticed that many of you are starting to get it. ledbedder20.. very impressive!


congratulations ledbedder, looks like you made a new friend

[edit on 9/19/2008 by smallbusiness]


reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 09:42 AM by smallpeeps
Originally posted by BreifneOne question - where do the Chinese (or other non-catholic institutions or) banks fit into this plan?

China is the largest holder of Fannie and Freddie bonds, so they'll do what the FRB tells them to do , I guess... Or not.

Japan is quite Romanized and it was so, before WW2. The Jesuits main city of power was Nagasaki which is why the Zionists behind the US Atom Bomb dropped it on that city, to make a point about the Vatican-supported liquidation/inquisition of WW2. It's King (Pharonic Ptolemiac Zionist bloodlines) versus Priest (Vatican, killers of Kings) just like it's been all down through history ever since Akhenaten closed down the temples and pissed off the priests. I believe I mentioned in this thread that Akhenaten's grandfather, Thutmosis IV built the stelae which the Pope has in his front yard.


Whats interesting is to research today's activity (The Paulson Rescue, lol) and the agency which is supposedly enabling it: Which manipulated the price of gold and stole it all from Americans while giving them greenbacks back in 1930...

Exchange_Stabilization_Fund


Background
The U.S. Exchange Stabilization Fund was established at the Treasury Department by a provision in the Gold Reserve Act of 31 January 1934. It was intended as a response to Britain's Exchange Equalisation Account[1]. The fund began operations in April 1934, financed by $2 billion of the $2.8 billion paper profit the government realized from raising the price of gold to $35 an ounce from $20.67. The Act authorized the ESF to use its capital to deal in gold and foreign exchange in order to stabilize the exchange value of the dollar. The ESF as originally designed was a creature of the Executive Branch not subject to legislative oversight.

The Gold Reserve Act authorized the ESF to use such assets as were not needed for exchange market stabilization to deal in government securities. The Fund had no statutory authority, however, to engage in other activities that it began to undertake. The principal such extraneous activity it devoted itself to was lending dollars to politically favored governments.

In 1938-40, the director of the Division of Monetary Research, Harry Dexter White, worked on a proposal for loans to Latin America and participated in plans for an Inter-American Bank, which did not materialize. The plan for an Inter-American Bank, however, inspired White’s first draft of the subsequent plans for the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank that White prepared in 1941 at Secretary of the U.S. Treasury Henry Morgenthau’s direction.



reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 10:01 AM by Terry_Dactyl
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and if the bankrupt corporation was for instance ... the United States of America ... ?

So I hear a can of coke is $9 in Iraq. Inflation's a real killer

[edit on 19-9-2008 by Terry_Dactyl]


reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 07:37 PM by rhw007
When the FED was set up the problem was that the US Treasury was CHARGED interest on the money printed for use as charged by Congress which Constitutionally is the ONLY branch who has power of the purse.

It SHOULD have been set up that the treasury printed money and LENT it to the Fed at a .5% interest rate for government budget items and another amount printed at 1% interest to be used in the private sector.

THUS…when printing money and operating the government we would EARN money as a society as the GDP grew. Insted our national debt has RISEN since Reagan vis-a-vis the GDP. Clinton lowered it but…King Gorgie Jr as expotentially rised it to the point of this collapse we are seeing and the loss of our precious treasure of human lives in needless wars.

I think the Declaration of Independance needs to be looked at seriously again:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. ”

Robert H. Williams
www.commonsensecentral.net...
www.mycommonsensepolitics.com...


reply posted on 20-9-2008 @ 08:20 AM by smallpeeps
More updated excellence from Reinhardt

enterprisecorruption.com


Cooking management’s books and then covering the book-cooking up with war and destroying the paper trail, then censoring speech by suspending the Writ of Habeus Corpus and then revising history is a tried-and-true, sure-fire way to out-negotiate.. labor.

Here is how it has always worked:

--A closed-door task-force, then..
--“reform” the securities exchange (that would be Belnick and Rudman,)
--upgrade the foreign nation(s) chosen for outsourcing
--upgrade a few good potential enemy nations while you’re at it cook the books
--allow the government to be defrauded
--inflate the true value of your company’s shares during a morality play (that would be Monika)
--prepare to confess and repent (Monohan’s Legatus calls this “making the tough calls”,)
--fly back to corporate from Rome
--sell your personal shares
--start an “unfounded” rumor about accounting methods
--put on a big bi-partisan dog-and-pony show to make it seem like the upgraded foreign nations were ever expected to pay for their new infrastructure
--freeze the accounts of labor
--confess and repent
--send out a few envelopes laced with a powdery white substance
--place the financial blame on a single greedy individual.

bada bing..

..you just created a fresh load of new millionaires – during the..

“Greatest Accounting Fraud Ever”

go figure..

It is that easy.

It is that boring.

But.. it is that easy.

And it is often called “Renewing America”.



reply posted on 20-9-2008 @ 11:05 AM by Terry_Dactyl
actually I do have a question which I need to preface with a little explanation.

I read a book back in 1992 called Mystery 666. It was written by some guy who I think was a priest or something from Perth WA. It outlined this whole banking/oil cartel thing, you know the sort, the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Schiff, Warburton yada yada. It was actually quite well researched and pretty convincing that this guy actually knew his stuff. Well if IIRC somewhere in it he said that some time around the turn of the century there would be a terrorist attack on the NY financial district. He said it would probably take the form of a suitcase nuke. I guess NY got off lightly in retrospect. So when the second plane hit I knew it was an inside job, I had no doubt. My friends and family thought I was a nutter. And when Tony Blair took center stage I was left with absolutely no doubt in my mind and proceeded to have a half hour heated argument with my flatmate at the time. In Blairs post 911 address he said the word "globalisation" more times then he said the words "a", "and" and "the" combined". The thing is, the book was originally written in the early 80's.

So my question is. Do these "illuminati m...f...r's" really plan these things out that far ahead of time? Or are they simply so familiar with the cycle of economics that they simply goosestep along the company line knowing where and when certain "events" are to take place?



reply posted on 21-9-2008 @ 10:18 AM by phrig
I searched through some web caches for the front pages of legatus.org and copied the 'Upcoming Events'.

Disappointingly, those that I looked at did not correlate to any major event on the DJI.

In case anyone here wants to play around with them, here are the dates that I found; taken from pages from Sept 15th 2003 to Feb 13th 2008 (the cached pages only went to the later date then ctopped being cached by the site that I used)



Rome & Austria Pilgrimage
Sep 19-29, 2003

International Summit
Feb 5-7, 2004

ProLife Pilgrimage to
Washington, D.C.
May 18-20, 2004

Krakow & Rome Pilgrimage
Sep 16-27, 2004

Spiritual Retreat
Sep 24-26, 2004
Belleville, IL

Annual International Summit
Feb 3-5, 2005
Naples, FL

5th Annual ProLife Pilgrimage
Mar 16-18, 2005
Washington, D.C.
Revised Date
May 22-24, 2005
Washington, D.C.

Dublin & Rome Pilgrimage
Sep 16-26, 2005
Mark Your Calendars!

European Pilgrimage
Dublin VIP Tour
Sep 15-19, 2005

Legatus Summit
Naples, FL
Feb 2-4, 2006

5th Annual ProLife Pilgrimage
Revised Date
April 5-7, 2006
Washington, D.C.!!

Fall Summit
September 20-23, 2006
Napa, California

Legatus Summit
Napa, CA
Sep 21-23, 2006

European Pilgrimage
Prague &?Rome
Oct 13-23, 2006

Israel & Rome Pilgrimage
October 16-29, 2006
Mark Your Calendars!

Winter Summit
February 1-3, 2007
Naples, Florida

Pro-Life Conference
April 11-13, 2007
Washington, D.C.

Fall Summit
Sep 19-21, 2007
Colorado Springs, CO

Fall Summit
Sep 20-22, 2007
Colorado Springs, CO

Spiritual Pilgrimage
Oct 16-22, 2007
Rome, Italy

Winter Summit
Jan 30, 2008
Naples, FL

Jan 31-Feb 2, 2008
Naples, FL

Pro-Life Conference
April 16-18, 2008
Washington, DC

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