LHC is an alien communication device, page 7
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reply posted on 18-9-2008 @ 08:16 AM by JonathanNicholas
reply to post by logician magician


SIONIX is wrong.It is my understanding that the concern over the LHC
is that micro black holes, if they were created at LHC, would be
traveling much slower than any created by cosmic rays. While cosmic-
ray derived mbh's would be carried through and away from the earth
by their enormous momentum without much, if any, interaction with
local matter, in the case of hypothetical mbh's created at LHC,
(lacking the speed and momentum of cosmic ray-derived mbh's) safety
would depend upon the mbh quickly depleting itself through Hawking
radiation, a phenomenon which is still purely theoretical.Why are we wrong to be concerned if Hawking radiation isn't even proven yet?Thats the main basis for my concern.More tests need to be done period.


reply posted on 18-9-2008 @ 03:29 PM by rocksarerocks
reply to post by logician magician


Do you even know what OCD is man? I bet you don't have the slightest idea. You should ask your secret friend to research it for you.


reply posted on 18-9-2008 @ 05:36 PM by logician magician
Originally posted by rocksarerocks
reply to post by logician magician


Do you even know what OCD is man? I bet you don't have the slightest idea. You should ask your secret friend to research it for you.




That's a good one. You are so funny and witty.

OCD.



reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 08:50 AM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by logician magician


The LHC experiment is much likely to create millions of blackholes(although small and limited to a millionth of a second).Now blackholes is a concept all intelligent species in the universe(if they exist) are bound to be interested in.If they could detect the effects on earth at the time of teh experiment..who knows whether they would 'zoom' in for a closer look !


reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 10:42 AM by spacebot
Originally posted by irevolution
reply to post by logician magician


Why should people trust you and you're "unnamed trustworthy source"? How would "young civilizations" know the LHC and the "energy display" to be a standard operating procedure for alien contact?

By the way, hasn't the human race already been contacted by aliens?


He was probably thinking that advanced alien civilizations monitor the universe for energy signatures from exotic reactions, that rarely or almost never would happen in the Cosmic nature, and their detection would signal that another civilization is playing around with exotic energies.
Though I doubt that CERN will have in its plans to create anything that exotic simply because we don't know how to do that and we don't have a way of harnessing enough energy to register ourselves in the Cosmic radars. An effort like that would probably require such amount of energy like creating a small pulsar with an unique behavior and using it as a beacon to pinpoint our location. A distinct signal that could reveal our location from anywhere in the Galaxy. This method could apply for the easiest way to navigate in space. How can I patent this? LOL! My grand grand grand grand grand grand grand children will be rich!

[edit on 19-9-2008 by spacebot]


reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 06:20 PM by rocksarerocks
reply to post by logician magician



And yet you continue to use the word not knowing what it means? Do you understand what you're even typing?


reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 06:40 PM by logician magician
Originally posted by rocksarerocks
reply to post by logician magician



And yet you continue to use the word not knowing what it means? Do you understand what you're even typing?


Well, as I've repeatedly said, I am only forwarding a message.

How can you not understand that? You are acting unbelievably blockheaded.

I feel like I'm posting one of Nostradamus' quatrains here and you're berating me to tell you exactly what it means when it should have been completely obvious after I said "I received this message..."

I just don't get how you can be so hebetudinous and demanding at the same time unless you have some type of OCD which forces you to respond with nonsense to my posts.

[edit on 19-9-2008 by logician magician]


reply posted on 24-9-2008 @ 07:49 PM by Sovaka
Ok, having read all 7 of these pages I think I can add something to this discussion that SHOULD stop a lot of this stupid hate and ignorance.

FACT #1 - Not one single person on this planet knows EVERYTHING.
FACT #2 - The total combined population of this planet yields a less then 5% of what we truly know about the Universe and how it operates.

Now to all those that say the LHC won't produce a MASS ENERGY DISCHARGE, my question to you is... HOW DO YOU KNOW?
My sub-question to you is... Can you name all the particles they plan on smashing together?
Another question to you... Can you tell me with 1000% certainty... yes 1000%... What that collision will do?

I know I can say with 1000% certainty that you do not know what will happen because if you did... Then someone else would know, and we wouldn't need to perform these tests.

Having said that... There is a lot of speculation that when Matter is met with Anti-matter, there is a massive explosion.
Where is the proof? Have we as the Earth species made both matter and anti-matter? And have we put them together?
Again, no... we haven't. If we have... BY CHANCE... then it didn't make a massive explosion.
My posit on the whole matter anti-matter scenario is simple math.. (THOUGH THE TOPIC AND SCIENCE BEHIND IT ISN'T SIMPLE)
1-1=0
There is one apple on the table and there is one hungry kid in the room. Kid eats the apple to solve his hunger and leaves the room.
Both resulting in the same... Nothing left in the room, though the room stays intact.

Ok, now onto what can be said of the LHC.
The scientists involved with the project have a large % certainty of what will happen when they perform the operation.
But their combined % of knowledge still weighs less then 1% of the Universal knowledge.
So who can say with 1000% certainty that when they smash two particular particles together.... They won't go boom?
The general idea is that the LHC might create black holes.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the general idea about black holes is that they suck in everything.
And please don't say they can shut them down.
If they know they can shut them down, then they have made them before. So why need to make them again etc
If they theorize what can shut it down then it is still only a THEORY!
They don't know that if they decide to chuck more particles at the black hole to cause it to collapse, that it won't expediently increase its growth.

Having said all this and IF you are still reading what I am writing then at least you still have an open mind to what others have to say.

I will give you that Logical Magician didn't really give us that much information. But how much information do you think your Governments would give you on such a topic?
May I remind you all to challenge the information we receive OPENLY and without bias?
Just because he can not give us any more information than he has already provided doesn't necessarily mean that he isn't right.
It just means we have exhausted that avenue of information.

Let's say for a moment that the OP is correct.
Now his source would more then likely have a THEORY of what would happen IF this thing would go POP.
A fair enough one two in my personal opinion.
Unfortunately, due to what we know ... rather... the lack of what we know of things, we really can't prove or disprove this claim until the date arrives.

Does that mean what he posted was ultimately useless to us? And that he shouldn't have posted it in the first place?
I don't think so. I like to think, I like being made to think. It never hurts me...

All I am really trying to say is that when someone posts some information that you can't prove to a 1000% certainty... DON'T vilify them... Move on if you don't agree. Or at least, try and provide some insight to the topic and be constructive.

I will leave this post with one last law of our known world.
'What CAN go wrong... WILL go wrong.' - Murphy's Law
READ - Murphy WIKI

Thank you for your time


reply posted on 25-9-2008 @ 12:07 PM by WeAreOne
reply to
post by Sovaka


Excellent post Sovaka,

I could not of said it better myself; I was actually quite surprised by the venom contained within some of the reply posts being made; really spiteful and childish stuff but then I forget that there is a load of kids on here.

Well I for one do not know if the OP is correct or not; it is a case of wait and see.
I mean the people who built the LHC themselves don’t fully know what to expect when they first crash their particles so I would not be so cocky until that time; the proof is in the pudding as they say.

Good day to you Sirs… Madams.


reply posted on 1-10-2008 @ 03:59 PM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by logician magician

Oh Please!!!! You obviously have the right to your own opinions about things, but your "deep sources" must be related to you in some way otherwise "WHY" on God's green Earth would anyone divulge such a "supersecret" (devilish/Illuminati (?) type plan to you? I love ATS very much as a very special resource for those of us who do NOT want to die having been asleep at the switch all our lives! This is the FIRST time I've replied to an article or link on this great website. I just couldn't let "this one" go by the by. Thanks ATS for letting me vent a bit. Sincerely Gabriel, USA
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