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Originally posted by salvatore
***Translated with GOOGLE***
I sense that "MoonWalker1966DELTA" do not lie, I have communicated with him for the first time on April 10, 2008 and told me he is the CMDR of Apollo 19.
After the TLI (TRANS LUNAR INJECTION) a stroke of a meteorite wrong failure of telemetry, and the BACKUP just another flight of APOLLO MISSION, (and I will expose the name of that mission) using the simulator could bring to Earth.
As far as my concerns ... I already know who is Moonwalker1966delta.
I do not expose your identity without written permission from "MoonWalker1966DELTA."
So I support the investigative work of my friend Luca, even if there are details on the videos are not real.
This does not reject APOLLO 20, on the contrary, these people deserve to be Understood and Addressed in their desire to make known Hidden Truths, and I will make public they have my total and absolute support.
Salvatore Valentin Carta
Originally posted by kidflash2008
The only problem with this is the Saturn V rocket was the largest and most powerful rocket ever built. No matter where or when this behemoth was launched, someone would of noticed. The logistics to move these rockets are immense.
Originally posted by Nohup
I notice on the Revver site that retiredafb has posted footage of some kind of female alien mummy (apparently made out of some kind of clay).
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Originally posted by mikesingh
Now who would have noticed if it was launched from Kau desert, Hawaii? Or even Barking Islands? Or even Poker Flats for that matter? These behemoths could very well be shipped in SKD kits and assembled in situ. No big deal here. And you don't require thousands at the launch pad for assembling it.
121:05:30 Allen: Presto chango; there's the TV.
['Presto Chango', sometimes spelled 'presto change-o' is a incantation usually associated with amateur magicians.]
121:05:36 Scott: Oh, beautiful, I'm glad to hear that.
But the smoking-gun evidence of hoax can be seen on the second video in this post.
As “bishop1971” commented on Youtube, at around 1:15 you can see a very bad compositing blunder in the video. “Leonov”, the astronaut in the footage, suddenly becomes a floating torso, as you can see the background moving below his waist.
Below, a frame of the crude error, note the background below Leonov’s waist, but check for yourself on the video:
That video was actually created mixing at least three different sources: one of the “Mona Lisa” alien, a clay sculpture, the background inside the Lunar Module, a nice computer generated video, and finally the footage of “Leonov”. But that final footage only had Leonov from the waist up, and Speth made a very bad error on compositing — “mixing” — everything together. There’s no doubt that’s a hoax, unless you believe on flying torsos.
L.S. I would like to know something more about the preparation of the “Apollo 20” mission. From where and when the Saturn rocket was launched and how many people were involved in that classified mission. Can you do some names?
W.R. 300 people were involved on the preparation, but more other witnesses in Vandenberg. It was launched from this AFB. More witnesses, yes, many people saw departures in the sky, cameras were forbidden all around the Vandenberg site, but today a lot of Space spotters film every launch of Delta rockets, from towns. Other people saw this launch but not knowing it was a Saturn 5. One internaut viewing the
launch video says this launch is a Saturn 1B. If today, with all available
information, somebody makes such a mistake, you can image how it was in 1976. The preparation was long, subject of cancellations, new starts. Russians had the first information since 1966, I don't know what was their source.
Originally posted by internos
One thing that can be noticed is that the appearance is more sharp in As15-P-9625, while in all the other images it looks more like a semi-buried formation: now, i honestly don't know how much of what we see was determined by shadows tricks, but as well we can't ignore As15-P-9625, so well we shouldn't ignore all the other images showing the same area.
I absolutely would never use the Apollo 20 stuff in order to disprove that formation: it's actually there, whatever it is
Originally posted by SlightlyAbovePar
reply to post by Fastwalker81
One liners that offer no 'argument'? The entire discussion is moot, unless you (the royal you) are making the assertion that there was/is some grand conspiracy to "cover up" missions that never happened.
It was clear from some posters’ comments they simply did not know the mission in question never happened. If the very basis of the post is incorrect, then any fruit born from that assumption is also incorrect. Everyone, but you, seemed to follow that point quite easily: hence no need to spam up the board with a lengthy dissertation. Just a simple, known, widely agreed upon fact. Of course, if I had taken the time to explain myself like I am now, you would accuse me of being overly verbose in an effort to provide ‘dis-info’.
Now, if your asserting these missions did happen (as you clearly did in your first post to me), then stake your claim - based on evidence. Not hear say, not suppositions, not suggestions, not insinuations, not accusations that anyone who doesn't agree with you is politically on the right and therefore on of 'them'.....actual, verifiable evidence.
You are the one who turned this personal. You are the one who assigned politics to this issue and you're still the one talking about me, and not the issue. Now, I am having to spend time explaining what was patently obvious to all but one person.
Think the missions in question happened? Then lay what you think is evidence that points to that conclusion. If you’re merely “keeping an open mind” then the issue for you is me, and not the subject matter.
So, again, do you have anything of substance to add to the discussion?
Originally posted by italianfreelancer74
Dear readers and ATS users,
So far I did not come here to join your discussion because I am busy to finish my essay (on other topics, not about Apollo 19/20), and also I have been preparing something else, since long time ago, and I have almost finished it. It is a big work for me, almost alone. You should see it very soon.
So, I do not understand who asks why I am not here to discuss with you.
1) First of all, all my articles and interviews on my webisite are free of charge, available for discussion and personal use of everybody. Did you use them? Did you quote some part of them, to help the discussion, here?
Just I own my Copyright, but you do not pay to download them and to read them, am I right? Did you read everything I wrote? Did you discuss every single detail and information of my several articles on the subject?
2) I have never told everything about Rutledge's messages and their contacts, and it was a good choice. Now I have a strong clue that I can show you (the others I prefer to keep them private, because they are very personal) and which in my opinion proves that this story has kernels of truth, almost without doubts. And Above Top Secret is involved, with its possibility for people of the Web to come here, and to speak out.
So, you should be proud: with your dialogues and your time, months ago, in another thread of this website, you have stimulated someone, who came and left an important message...Did you notice it? Do you remember it? Maybe only the Above Top Secret Administration knows from where (the geographical location) the user was connected to the discussion... what I can tell you - of course - is that it was not me. Above all because it would be illegal and not honest. So, who was? He did not sign with name. "retiredafb"? "moonwalker1966delta"? Everything is possible, but I do not feel and think so...
So, now we have at least three different people who know something on the controversial issue, if we assume that "retiredafb" and "moonwalker1966delta" are two different persons and not the same person who is playing a dirty game (but only YouTube Administration can know this detail).
I wish you will hear news from me very soon, as soon as possible. In the meantime, I greet everybody who understands how many difficulties and problems insiders and reporters can have in talking and disclosing the truth. Especially insiders, who - when they are authentic characters of the history and involved in some dark aspects of our society - cannot come out and just say:
"Oh guys, listen to me, please! My name is ...... and I was member of a black operation, and I did this and that..."
Do you remember what happened to James Vincent Forrestal? And to Phil Schneider and his friend Ron Rummel?
Moreover, did you notice that I sign and I have signed in the past every article with my name and surname, while most of you do not this? I have put my face. My name.
Do you know what kind of disinformation campaign there was in Italy last year because of my reports, and against my reputation? Do you know how many problems I had and how many lies were told on the issue? Do you know what kind of pressure I have and I have had in the past?
No, I do not think you know. You cannot imagine... And such reasons were also responsible for my decision to leave the ufological community, and the media world (not only because of the problem that as journalist in Italy I could not eat..., unfortunately, without a contract. No contract, no enough money to live.)
So, please, once again: be patient. Because I am working for free. But I believe in what I am doing. Strongly. But to write reports with strong evidence that everybody can follow and discuss, from another point of view of course, you need time. And to face such a sensitive issue you need a lot of responsability. It is not easy...
I thank you again.
All the best to you