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Originally posted by Buck Division
Look -- if I wanted to -- I could be arguing that this editing process was actually bias towards Palin and not against her. For example, I was struck by the fact she said she was so easily "overwhelmed"
these last couple of weeks … it has been overwhelming to me that confirmation of the message that Americans are getting sick and tired of that self-dealing and kind of that closed door, good old boy network that has been the Washington elite.
Hey -- I don't want a president or VP that is easily overwhelmed by something relatively minor like that. But maybe that is not what Palin really meant, in which case it was a good thing it was edited out, before it confused me or someone else.
Do you get my point?
Originally posted by Buck Division
In my opinion, there are some minor redaction, probably to keep the interview more interesting and to cut the interview down to fit particular time.
They need to fit the interview into a particular time slice, so they eliminate some redundant words that don't contribute much to the discussion. I don't think there is anything unfair or remarkable in this practice.
"Obama’s experience has repeatedly been called into question"
I ran across a really great response to the experience comparison from someone who doesn't mind being quoted:
Meme Says:
” Experience. People are questioning Palin’s experience. Really? What about Obama? I have not met an Obama supporter who can name a single thing he’s accomplished.”
You’ve met one. Obama was graduating from Ivy-league Columbia University with a degree in Political Science with a focus on International Relations when Palin was graduating high school and competing in beauty contests. He was professor of Colombua law university, organizing Chicago’s largest voter drive in history, and a professor constutional law when Palin was changing between six low-key colleges and earning a degree in journalism (minor in polysci), then working as a part time sportscaster and fisherman. Obama was in the state senate authoring over 800 bills when Palin was elected mayor with just over 640 votes, to a job that she herself described in one interview as trivial (talking about how there were only 53 employees and a six million budget). Obama was elected US senator from one of the US’s largest states with 3.5 million votes and has served there twice as long as Palin has served as Governor, where she was elected with 114k votes. As a Senator, he served on the Senate Foreign Relations committee, probably the most prestigious committee in congress (as well as 12 other committees), and has met with dozens of leaders across the globe in Africa, Europe, and the Middle East. She only got a passport in 2007; her foreign policy experience is listed as Canada (because she’s crossed the border before), Kuwait (because she visited the national guard there and never left the base), Germany (stopped there on the way back from Kuwait, same thing), Ireland (because her plane stopped to refuel there; she didn’t even leave the plane), and Russia (because Alaska is close to Russia). Heck, he’s been campaigning for president almost as long as she’s been a governor, dealing with donations from over twice as many people as Alaska has taxpayers and managing almost twice as many volunteers as Alaska has state employees. That’s just his *campaign alone*.
Oh, and in case you were asking about bills? He’s sponsored, last I checked, almost 150 and cosponsored over 500, ranging from international nuclear disarmament to making it illegal to transport toys to the US that contain lead to banning banks from misleading wording with mortgages to a number of cleantech and healthcare bills, housing for veterans, making the millenium anti-poverty goals binding, and so on. He’s even the reason why it’s illegal for lobbiest bundlers to act without reporting. I can get you a list of resolution numbers of his bills that passed if you’re interested.
Meme Says:
September 5th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Here you go — I just found a URL where you can see his bills:
thomas.loc.gov...
Oh, and I was wrong about the number of bills: that was just the number of bills he’s sponsored and cosponsored in the *110th* congress alone.
Originally posted by loam
reply to post by rahrens
reply to post by Valhall
I'm not sure why you think the youtube version of the interview does not match the aired version, but it is clear that it was added to the site hours after its original airing.
[edit on 16-9-2008 by loam]
Originally posted by rahrens
Doesn't take long, really, if you've got the equipment, and anybody with a decent Mac can do the job with just a modicum of skill.
But really, I think so, because I WATCHED THE ABC INTERVIEWS, in their entirety, on all three aired segments, AND on Nightline. Looking at the Transcript on Levin's website, with the bold/underlined sections allegedly edited out, ALL of those allegedly edited out portions, I REMEMBER in those interviews! THEY WERE AIRED. I remember Palin saying that stuff!
Originally posted by rahrens
Now, that being said, they were aired over three segments, some of which showed repeats of Gibson asking various questions, and Palin answering. It was confusingly done, and in order to settle this question, one MUST look at separate transcripts of EACH separate segment, compared with the separately aired, matching video.
Originally posted by rahrens
Again, after reading Levin's marked up transcript, even if those parts he alleges to have been cut had been, they don't make spit's worth of difference in how she is portrayed.
Originally posted by rahrens
She still betrays her unfamiliarity with diplomatic language, her unfamiliarity with current foreign affairs and Administration policy, and shows how much she doesn't understand the qualifications for the job.
Originally posted by rahrens
Sorry, but anyone that says (whether she believes it or not) that just being Governor of a State 53 miles from the Russian Federation automatically gives her diplomatic experience is either crazy or thinks that I am to believe it.
Or do you think that George Bush, as Governor of Texas, automatically got the same experience as Governor of a State just across a shallow river from Mexico?
GIBSON: Have you ever met a foreign head of state?
PALIN: There in the state of Alaska, our international trade activities bring in many leaders of other countries.
GIBSON: And all governors deal with trade delegations.
PALIN: Right.
GIBSON: Who act at the behest of their governments.
PALIN: Right, right.
GIBSON: I’m talking about somebody who’s a head of state, who can negotiate for that country. Ever met one?
PALIN: I have not and I think if you go back in history and if you ask that question of many vice presidents, they may have the same answer that I just gave you. But, Charlie, again, we’ve got to remember what the desire is in this nation at this time. It is for no more politics as usual and somebody’s big, fat resume maybe that shows decades and decades in that Washington establishment, where, yes, they’ve had opportunities to meet heads of state … these last couple of weeks … it has been overwhelming to me that confirmation of the message that Americans are getting sick and tired of that self-dealing and kind of that closed door, good old boy network that has been the Washington elite.
[Bold portions not aired.]
GIBSON: Let me ask you about some specific national security situations.
PALIN: Sure.
GIBSON: Let’s start, because we are near Russia, let’s start with Russia and Georgia.
The administration has said we’ve got to maintain the territorial integrity of Georgia. Do you believe the United States should try to restore Georgian sovereignty over South Ossetia and Abkhazia?
PALIN: First off, we’re going to continue good relations with Saakashvili there. I was able to speak with him the other day and giving him my commitment, as John McCain’s running mate, that we will be committed to Georgia. And we’ve got to keep an eye on Russia. For Russia to have exerted such pressure in terms of invading a smaller democratic country, unprovoked, is unacceptable and we have to keep…
GIBSON: You believe unprovoked.
PALIN: I do believe unprovoked and we have got to keep our eyes on Russia, under the leadership there. I think it was unfortunate. That manifestation that we saw with that invasion of Georgia shows us some steps backwards that Russia has recently taken away from the race toward a more democratic nation with democratic ideals. That’s why we have to keep an eye on Russia.
And, Charlie, you’re in Alaska. We have that very narrow maritime border between the United States, and the 49th state, Alaska, and Russia. They are our next door neighbors.We need to have a good relationship with them. They’re very, very important to us and they are our next door neighbor.
GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.
GIBSON: What insight does that give you into what they’re doing in Georgia?
PALIN: Well, I’m giving you that perspective of how small our world is and how important it is that we work with our allies to keep good relation with all of these countries, especially Russia. We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it’s in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.
Sarah Palin on Russia:
We cannot repeat the Cold War. We are thankful that, under Reagan, we won the Cold War, without a shot fired, also. We’ve learned lessons from that in our relationship with Russia, previously the Soviet Union.
We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it’s in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.
[Bold portions not aired.]
Originally posted by rahrens
And what politician with experience will continue to use a lie in her campaign EVEN AFTER SHE'S ALREADY ADMITTED IT WAS A LIE?? Her allegation that she stopped the Bridge to Nowhere has been proven to be a falsehood, and she finally admitted that it was.
But she has continued to use it in her campaign speeches!
This kind of bad behavior we don't need.
Originally posted by rahrens
Perhaps some of you missed one or more of those segments. Each was supposed to cover different stuff, but Nightline had some stuff that was repeated, as did 20/20. It is possible that either or both used different parts of Palin's answers - they do NOT use the same editing teams!
After high school, much to her older brother’s amusement, Sarah entered the Miss Wasilla pageant and won. “I remember asking Sarah why she would enter a beauty pageant when that seemed so prissy to the rest of us,” Chuck Jr. said. “She told me matter of factly, ‘It’s going to help pay my way through college.’ ” Her family makes a point of saying Sarah was never the beauty pageant type. Even though the scholarship she won did help pay for college, years later Sarah seemed
chagrined by the pageant experience. “They made us line up in bathing suits and turn our backs so the male judges could look at our butts,” she said in a 2008 interview with Vogue magazine. “I couldn’t believe it!”
GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.