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Originally posted by Dan5647
My name is Daniel Harris. I am a 19 year old Republican. I believe in God and Creationism. I know there are many Democrats and Independents that use this forum who probably hate me for what political party I'm with.
Originally posted by Dan5647
Bad change will happen in this country if we don't stop fighting each other. I am P.O.ed because there are people who live in this great country who have no agenda but to split us up and no one wants to stop them. They are fear mongers, anarchists, and crazies with no purpose but to hate this country and to consume up our resources in return. Very shameful. I believe the United States is the best darn country that ever existed on this planet and without democracy, we wouldn't have any freedom or rights. What do you guys think?
Originally posted by capgrup
Bruxfain;
My apologies for thinking that "the wages of sin is death" and "escorted in hancuffs by demons" struck me as being religous. Why do people die? According to you it is because their soul was not clean enough. If your post was not about religion then come out and state it without the religous comparisons. I at least had the fortitude to say what I believe without the mumbo-jumbo b.s.
Now if you have not served your country then you have no standing when you say I am part of the conspiracy that is destroying this country. If you have served then you have my respect and can think whatever you want.
Originally posted by Gun Totin Gerbil
I think this is the work of a democrat mastermind . A lot of stereotypical checks of a republican right wing type are ticked off right from the start but they are accentuated and made to look even worse. This is a false flag kind of thing, right ?
Originally posted by justamomma
This certainly could be a game... then again, there really are more individuals who are very ignorant and easily brainwashed... otherwise we wouldn't be living under a 2 in 1 party system in this country
Originally posted by Nexroth
Not that it's terribly relevant, but this is my first post. I was initially going to reply and make one point, but now I've got a couple things I'd like to address.
1) Dan: I think you got a little more than you bargained for by posting on this forum. I'm not even sure you'll be back... I believe your initial point was that this country is being "Split up". However, you never really explained what you meant by this. You later retreated to a smaller point about the price of oil contrasted with the cost of gasoline, which is a different topic altogether. Although many folks here have tried valiantly, I don't think anyone can really intelligently reply to your initial post since you never really defined what you meant by "Split up". Civil war? States seceding from the union? People having divided views? I'm not even sure it's worth going back to redefine what you meant at this point. Once a thread is 5+ pages long and has meandered off topic like this one has, it's nearly futile. However, feel free to try to redefine what you meant, because it was utterly lost on me.
2) Bruxfain: Your posts, which initially seemed like they'd be on topic (you mentioned agreeing with Dan RE: the country being divided) quickly devolved into some kind of holier-than-thou spiritual views of sinners deserving death and inviting it into our homes, and then you went WAY overboard with your assertion that you have cracked the very reason people die (they bring it on themselves, of course!) and then, and this is a real kicker: "I am Fain, most of these people in this country are my offspring. Noone has been here longer, noone has bled more than me. " WTF do you even mean by that? If you really expect anyone to take anything you say seriously after a statement like that, then you are just as cracked as you come off. Make a point that is on topic please - and if you feel you were on topic, then clarify yourself, because you come off like a zealot, not someone who wants to intelligently debate this issue (whatever the issue even IS - see my first point above).
To get to my final point, this thread either needs to get way, WAY back on topic, or it should just be locked, because it's evolving into 1) other people's best guess at what the OP meant (and most of you have done a good job at least trying to decipher that point), or 2) pseudo-religious zealotry that has, IMHO, little to do with this topic at all. I realize I am walking a fine line here, and that this post may get removed, but FFS, cmon already.
In closing: Dan - if you can make your point more clear, it could be intelligently addressed. If you don't understand what I am saying, don't bother, and just let the thread die a slow death.
and you just opened an account for what reason. Troll somewhere else.
Originally posted by justamomma
Great observation. But to the truly observant individual, it is not hard to see that the republican party and democratic party are nothing more than cartels at their highest level. When they oppose, it is generally for the benefit of those controlling the parties, IMO; which makes it amusing and entertaining to watch them playing their games.
This certainly could be a game... then again, there really are more individuals who are very ignorant and easily brainwashed... otherwise we wouldn't be living under a 2 in 1 party system in this country
Originally posted by bruxfain
I am Fain, most of these people in this country are my offspring. Noone has been here longer, noone has bled more than me.
When someone says they don't believe in the Bible they are saying by implication that they also can be convinced that humanity is not a single family and it is therefore no big deal to rape women or kill children because they are different from you.
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
Originally posted by bruxfain
I am Fain, most of these people in this country are my offspring. Noone has been here longer, noone has bled more than me.
Are you speaking symbolically or something? I don't understand what you mean. Are you Adam?
When someone says they don't believe in the Bible they are saying by implication that they also can be convinced that humanity is not a single family and it is therefore no big deal to rape women or kill children because they are different from you.
What!?
Care to elaborate?
Originally posted by Dan5647
reply to post by justamomma
"Neat and Pefect reality" ARE YOU NUTS?
People getting killed is definitely not my reality! Since when is killing people logical? Talking about people getting killed, is that normal to you?
No, the reasons why we went there is what Bush and Powell stated: the WMDs, and the evil regime of Saddam Hussein.
My dad supports this war and he's 51 (20 years in the air force). You don't think he knows better?
Originally posted by billyjoinedat2k8
I dont understand how can this not be true ofcourse it can happen open your mind a bit and deny ignorance.
theyre only theyre for oil i think most people know that now its pretty obvious and right now american soldiers and british soldiers are invading Iraq and Afghanistan for the oil not to bring down the terrorists.
Originally posted by bruxfain
1. I'm Brux. Adam fell.
where I have to defend my kids by my wife from my kids by the serpent;
And this time, everyone will stand down and keep their mouths shut because I am tired of hearing about it.
But the ones who are responsible for it are my offspring by the other woman, who decided to whore herself and speak all kinds of lies about me because she didn't feel I paid enough child support and that's what makes this whole affair such a pain in the butt.
So, If a person doesn't accept the Bible to be true then they will soon find themselves standing on the wrong side of the battlefield.
The Cross is far too strong to be broken and nothing can stand against it. Ask Al Qaeda or any associated group of fools; they'll tell you.
When someone says they don't believe in the Bible they are saying by implication that they also can be convinced that humanity is not a single family and it is therefore no big deal to rape women or kill children
Originally posted by Nexroth
reply to post by bruxfain
OK man, fair enough. I take back "zealot" and replace it with "enthusiast".
I was just a bit thrown off when the topic went from the OP to various inquiries to Dan requesting clarification (it never was really clarified) to your point about anyone anti-bible being wrong/deserving death/etc and how it related to the vague OP.
I am not anti-bible/anti-Christian, but going down that path is an altogether different topic. I guess I will summarize your view of the OP as being those who are anti-bible/anti-Christian are the root of the problem in this country (the problem that was never defined clearly by the OP) - fair 'nuff...I guess. I respectfully disagree, as you're applying a religious/spiritual reason for why our country is in the pooper, and that further alludes that our country somehow has divine providence over all other countries...and since we have freedom of religion in the US, your suggestion that anyone who is anti-bible/anti-Christian is the root of the problem is antithetical to what this country is all about, IMHO. Ever hear of the term "melting pot"?
I respect your right to an opinion, I just don't agree with your theologically biased conclusion.
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
Originally posted by bruxfain
1. I'm Brux. Adam fell.
Hi Brux. So can I infer you have not 'fallen' then? And then by implication (and your earlier declaration that "im am holier than thou") that you are some divine being? An angel of God?
where I have to defend my kids by my wife from my kids by the serpent;
The serpent being Satan? Or non-Bible believers?...
And this time, everyone will stand down and keep their mouths shut because I am tired of hearing about it.
What?
But the ones who are responsible for it are my offspring by the other woman, who decided to whore herself and speak all kinds of lies about me because she didn't feel I paid enough child support and that's what makes this whole affair such a pain in the butt.
Let me get this straight: Most of this Country is your offsping from an affair you have had with this women in this lifetime? Eh?
So I thought you were protecting your children from the Serpent. That equates to sending some child support?
So, If a person doesn't accept the Bible to be true then they will soon find themselves standing on the wrong side of the battlefield.
Which I look forward to. See you on the battlefield.
The Cross is far too strong to be broken and nothing can stand against it. Ask Al Qaeda or any associated group of fools; they'll tell you.
Right. You're an extremist. A total Christian fundamentalist. I get it.
My question was specifically about this statement of yours:
When someone says they don't believe in the Bible they are saying by implication that they also can be convinced that humanity is not a single family and it is therefore no big deal to rape women or kill children
[edit on 16-9-2008 by Lucid Lunacy]