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Topic started on 14-9-2008 @ 09:57 AM by manson_322

Obama calls for US military mobilization


www.wsws.org
In a closely balanced election, with the outcome still very much in doubt, Obama hopes to win the support of the real decision-makers—the topmost levels of the financial, political and military elite. Only a Democrat, he is suggesting, with the smokescreen of “equal sacrifice” and “fairness,” can provide the millions of recruits for the US military machine that will be required for wars against countries such as Iran, Russia and China.

While utilizing the occasional high-flown phrase to appeal to the idealism of youth and students, Obama is offering the ruling class a brutal bargain: Select me as president, and I will repay you in blood.
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reply posted on 14-9-2008 @ 10:51 AM by ModernAcademia
This is exactly why you need to watch this



Forget it, forget the corrupt and bought two-party system
They both offer the same exact darn thing

There will be no change with obama

Wake up people


reply posted on 14-9-2008 @ 11:44 AM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by manson_322



We Americans, have zero control of who gets elected to any office in this country as it is run by the Global mob. The people today in this country are largely feeble minded. They don't want bad things to happen. But, they are led astray and are mostly ignorant to the program being played.


reply posted on 14-9-2008 @ 11:48 AM by elevatedone
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

wow... pick and choose much? Nice to see that you only used the last two paragraphs for your source material. everyone knows your agenda here, too bad people don't buy into it, if they did you'd probably be a much happier person.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



reply posted on 14-9-2008 @ 11:56 AM by manson_322
reply to post by elevatedone


you want more from the article , here read this :

But in the course of his discussion with Woodruff and Stengel, McCain repeatedly connected the imperative of “national service” with the outbreak of international crises in which an American military role would be posed. Citing the Russian intervention in Georgia and the deteriorating position of the US-backed regime in Afghanistan, he said the American people could “see a whole lot of things happening in the world that’s going to require us to serve.”

McCain also said that he would sign the bipartisan legislation, co-sponsored in the Senate by Democrat Edward Kennedy and Republican Orrin Hatch, to triple the size of Americorps, the domestic version of the Peace Corps.

Obama’s comments were even more directly related to building up the US military. He spoke at some length to offer effusive praise for the armed forces. Woodruff asked him about the record number of Army officers leaving the military because of repeated, lengthy overseas deployments.

The candidate responded, “Well, first of all, as commander-in-chief, my job is to keep America safe. And that means insuring that we’ve got the best military on Earth. And that means having the best persons in uniform on Earth. We have that right now, but as a consequence of these wars, they have been strained incredibly. I think it’s important for us to increase the size of our Army and our Marines so we can reduce the pace of tours that our young men and women are on.”

After recalling his grandfather’s service in World War II, in the army of General George Patton, he noted that his grandfather was eligible for GI Bill education benefits and Federal Housing Administration loans to help purchase a home because of government policies favoring the discharged veterans. “There was that sense of sacred obligation that, frankly, we have lost during these last two wars,” Obama said. “I want to restore that.”
www.wsws.org...


reply to post by yellowcard



no , I expose the true face of the American Empire

by read my post in relation to ron paul :
Originally posted by manson_322
though I hate USA with a fervour for its meddling and genocide in third world countries ,

only a person like Ron Paul , can prevent US imperialism from destroying the world and harming nations


I wish USA had a leader like Ron Paul, the world would have been a much more peaceful place to live on

www.abovetopsecret.com...
[edit on 14-9-2008 by manson_322]

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reply posted on 14-9-2008 @ 12:14 PM by manson_322
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www.rense.com...


Obama calls for US military mobilization
By Patrick Martin
13 September 2008

In remarks that clearly pointed toward the restoration of the military draft under an Obama administration, the Democratic candidate said Thursday night that his job as president would include demanding that the American people recognize an “obligation” for military service. “If we are going into war, then all of us go, not just some,” Senator Barack Obama declared.
newyork.craigslist.org...




Your source has totally twisted the meaning of what Obama (and McCain for that matter - because they both agree) said. And frankly, I'm surprised you believed this piece of highly-biased and inaccurate media. Did YOU watch the forum?

By the way, the military needs to be rebuilt. If you haven't noticed, it's been depleted, used and abused in the past 5 years and we need to take care of them and build it back up again to claim that we have the strongest military in the world.



US military is the strongest military, so what the hell , does it need rebuilting


reply posted on 14-9-2008 @ 12:18 PM by yellowcard
reply to post by yellowcard



no , I expose the true face of the American Empire

by read my post in relation to ron paul :
Originally posted by manson_322
though I hate USA with a fervour for its meddling and genocide in third world countries ,

only a person like Ron Paul , can prevent US imperialism from destroying the world and harming nations


I wish USA had a leader like Ron Paul, the world would have been a much more peaceful place to live on

www.abovetopsecret.com...
[edit on 14-9-2008 by manson_322]

[edit on 14-9-2008 by manson_322]

You still have taken Obama out of context and remain one of the most anti-American people on this board. Even if Ron Paul was president you'd bash America for not rushing to your countries aid. America's leaders suck, but so do most every other countries leaders.


reply posted on 14-9-2008 @ 12:19 PM by manson_322
reply to post by bismarcksea



i seems to me that you are being the forum troll , anyways, back to topic ...

why do you think Obama wants a military mobilisation


reply posted on 14-9-2008 @ 12:37 PM by ModernAcademia
reply to post by yellowcard



yes exactly
you are saying that foreigners might hate america for not sending foreign aid to someone who said if RP was president there wouldn't be so much hate.

And I said that's incorrect, because most RP supporters are against foreign aid.

It's not a difficult equation

No more blowback = eventually no terroism = both troops and american taxpayer money stay home


reply posted on 14-9-2008 @ 02:57 PM by Angry Danish
Originally posted by manson_322

Oh, God , Obama is calling for a military draft to feed The american war machine , in wars against others and in eeven possibly Russia


mediamatters.org...

Given the context of the discussion I believe he is talking about making the ROTC available on all campuses in the US, NOT a draft.

OBAMA: But it's also important that a president speaks to military service as an obligation not just of some, but of many. You know, I traveled, obviously, a lot over the last 19 months. And if you go to small towns, throughout the Midwest or the Southwest or the South, every town has tons of young people who are serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. That's not always the case in other parts of the country, in more urban centers. And I think it's important for the president to say, this is an important obligation. If we are going into war, then all of us go, not just some.


I don't support this man, but people need to get the context of the discussion before blindly flailing their arms around screaming "the draft is coming"!

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