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posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 11:37 AM
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Well, then you guys are stronger than me in that sense, I come here not to debate or have my blood boiled. I like to learn and if I don't ignore certain folks, my time here is not productive.






posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by Mr Green
Remote viewers, mind control, psychic attacks, astral attacks all are done and all are possible amigo. People must realize that when inter dimensional beings like this are involved the rules are not the same in any way, shape or form. I believe SM was severly attacked in many ways from all sides and in the end it got to him. He now needs time to heal and protect himself, its not easy but I hope his pleadian friends will aid and guide him in every way possible.


..and yet my suggestion that he might have been/still is a victim of a mind control (experiment) from the start is being ridiculed, and ignored.

I do not expect smokingman2006 to see it as he would be a victim and programmed not to perceive it, but the rest here won't even consider it possible. Even with the overwhelming evidence of mind manipulation done on selected and broad groups of people over the past century, this idea only comes to mind in the aftermath of his "experience" ie smokingman2006 was visited by "friends" and *then* the "evildoers" commenced psychic attacks and mind control.

Never the less, I will continue to give smokingman2006 a benefit of a doubt, since the fat lady has not sang yet. But will also continue to be vigilant and on the look out for other possibilities as well, for his sake and for the sake of us all.



posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by blujay
reply to post by Mr Green
 

Well, then you guys are stronger than me in that sense, I come here not to debate or have my blood boiled. I like to learn and if I don't ignore certain folks, my time here is not productive.


hi blujay,

what you just said sounds to me as if you are really not open minded or accepting of other people's opinions, or thoughts. Granted you do not have to agree with what they have to say, but ignoring them is rather disrespectful, especially if they do believe what they say.

A person who really wants to learn does not shy away from certain kinds of information just because it does not match their belief system. Instead, one looks at the face value and sorts the information out based on fact or fiction. Sometimes the belief system needs to be updated for new experiences to channel through...



posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 09:00 AM
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Originally posted by amigo

..and yet my suggestion that he might have been/still is a victim of a mind control (experiment) from the start is being ridiculed, and ignored.



I too have not rules out this possiblility, but yes it is a possibility that we all are under some wierd mind control experiment. this is some thing i have often wondered. If its true who ever is doing it is worse than they can ever imagine. To play with people on such a level as this through psychic and astral means of mind control is one of the worst acts I can imagine another being doing on another.

WE are all in some sort of matrix Im almost convinced of this, yet part of me knows we can break free from it, we do have some inner power that just needs to be awoken to gain access to our true reality. Maybe these aliens (pleadians and others from the federation) are desperatly trying to show us the way and the NWO/annunaki are desperatly trying to prevent it through mind control and other desperate means.

More and more I see control on a grand scale through many means. But as SM says youd have to be totally asleep now to not see there is some thing very wrong with the world we now find our selves in.



posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 11:03 AM
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It's not differing opinons I choose to ignore. I learn a great deal from those who have an alternate view.

However, I have no problem hitting the ignore button on those who come only to troll. My time is limited and forging thru the trolls to read those intelligent minds at work, doesn't jive.

Anwhoz ... back to your discussions ..



posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 11:49 AM
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Mr Green, you may be indirectly referring to "freedom of choice",you see we have been brainwashed to hand over our free will to REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PEOPLE or politicians in plain english.When we willingly give away our "freedom of choice or free will" we HAVE NO GAURANTEE THAT OUR SPECIAL INDIVIDUAL VISION OF THE WORLDS FUTURE WILL EVER COME TO BE REALISED BECAUSE WE HAVE NO WAY TO ENSURE THAT ANY POLITICIAN ANYWHERE ON THE PLANET WILL DO AS THEY PROMISE.

I for one dont feel comfortable trusting humanities future to another mans or womans PROMISE!

Politics,religon,our monetery system,and any other structure that has the power to reach out beyond its own physical borders and exert political,industrial,or humanitarian pressure through withholding of food or resources MUST ALL BE DISMANTLED AND REBUILT ON A GLOBAL MODEL AND NOW NOT LATER.

We need to understand that humanity consists of six billion individual realities all working together constantly like a living being,the physical reality that we all deal with is simply created by small to large groups of humans who have "tuned in and chosen to share the same perspective",those of us who give up our right to excercise our free will by voting for a government we have to trust on a promise,ARE FORCED TO WATCH HELPLESSLY AS THE WORLD PROCEEDS IN DIRECTIONS THEY DONT WANT BUT NO LONGER HAVE THE CHOICE TO REJECT BECAUSE OF THE MOMENTUM CREATED BY GOVERNMENTS THAT KEEP GROWING UNTIL THEY ARE SELF-SUPPORTING ENTITIES WHICH NO LONGER REQUIRE THE PEOPLE WHO CREATED THEM TO VOTE TO CONTINUE THEY ONY REQUIRE PEOPLE TO VOTE THEY HAVE ALL OUTGROWN THEMSELVES AND NO LONGER SERVE THE PEOPLE THEY WERE CREATED TO SERVE,THOSE PEOPLE ARE ALL GONE ,BURIED,LIKE THE CURRENT SYSTEMS NEED TO BE QUICKLY BURIED IN FAVOR OF A GLOBAL DEMOCRACY, A TRUE DEMOCRACY, THAT DOESNT INCLUDE THE SURRENDER OF YOUR FREE WILL AS A PRE-REQUISITE TO PARTICIPATE.

Ever human getting their OWN vote,no chain of handling of peoples free will that leads to government agencies designed to manipulate and bastardise the true intent and wishes of EACH INDIVIDUAL EXACTLY AS THEY MEANT IT,not as they are currently presented,WITH THE TRUE INTENT CORRUPTED AND THE EXCUSE THAT THINGS WERE LOST IN THE TRANSLATION BEING PRESENTED AS THE CAUSE FOR CORRUPT "NOT WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT"ACTIONS.

sORRY ABOUT THE CAPS MY KEYBOARD WAS ATTACKED BY A SOCCER BALL YESTERDAY AND ISNT QUITE ITSELF.

We can only regain our free will by stepping outside state controlled media and using the internet to gain a true VISION OF THGE REALITY THAT OUR CORRUPT GOVERNMENTS WORLDWIDE HAVE CREATED FOR US USEING OUR OWN FREE WILL.

tHEN WE NEED A FORUM ON THE NET WHERE every single human being on earth is given the free choice to be identified on.

We need to give each individual human being a global voice BECAUSE THEY ALL HAVE AN EQUAL RIGHT TO DECIDE THE DIRECTION OUR SPECIES GOES IN.

For each human on earth,We have to put a face to the name and a voice to the face so corrupt governments can no longer silence the people through death,intimidation,starvation,and manipulation.

We are all equally guilty of horrendous crimes against humanity committed by our governments in the name of political correctness based on the voted on and duely represented wishes of the people.

Did you get the people part?Are you willing to admit you are part of the people NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY YOU ARE FROM?Are you willing to be accountable for your mistakes,because it is only through acceptance and accountability that we CAN MOVE FORWARD AND CORRECT OUR MISDIRECTION.

WE CANT HIDE BEHIND GOVERNMENTS AND CHURCHES AND BOMBS AND THE THREAT OF BURNING IN HELL ANYMORE.

This truly is a brave new world and there is nowhere left to go but forward,blame the internet,blame children who discuss world events at eight and nine years old because they are informed,BLAME ALL YOU WANT BUT YOU WONT STOP PROGRESS SO SHED YOUR CURRENT PERSPECTIVE OF THE WORLD YOU ARE LIVING IN AND MAKE THE FREE CHOICE TO MOVE FORWARD AND CORRECT OUR PATH,WE HAVE THE MAGIC POWER MY FRIENDS,ABRA-CA-DABRA!!



posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 11:51 AM
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There is always the possibility of the MC due to the many types of programs that I talked about earlier. But this doesn't take away from the probability of nordics. I've tried meditating and following that moment back to when I was taken, but the greys seem quite secretive and protective of their activities and in any case I can't be certain of what I'm getting so I just write it down and keep trying. I keep reading both positive and negative opinions about using a professional hypnotist and debating it. But the initial memory was a joint program. And there were memory leaks and dreams all my life surrounding that stuff. But the later were et not coalition, as if a break had occurred.

I believe he is receiving visitations from true nordics. In Meiers case, as I was trying to debate in a recent thread, he has a spiritual credo going that is control. I truly suspect MC or cabal involvement with Billy Meier. SM talks about spiritual awareness and self development which is the kind of work that we need to do. His message is much more natural and much more idealistic.

You're counting down to the arrival of "Kachina" (the Hopi term is the one I use for the dwarf star). I'm not, and have stated in many posts to question them more because giving a disaster scenario is common from contact and there may be a reason or protocol for it. I'm more concerned that we can send positive energy out and try to avoid disaster.



[edit on 18-4-2009 by mystiq]



posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 06:49 AM
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I was at my Mums yesterday. shes a normal lady in her 60's knows NOTHING of all this, not a thing. I dont talk about aliens and stuff to her or 2012 or any of that.

Well yesterday she just turns round to me and says, you know the other morning I looked up and saw two suns. I was so amazed she had said this I said what, are you sure, what do you mean??

She said the normal sun was over there but then this other sun was on the other side of the sky, she said the other sun was like an image of the real sun and as she looked at it it faded away .
She said it was early morning and quite cold and maybe the sun had reflected in the misty cool air?? Is this possible to get a mirror image of the sun through water in the misty air?

Really strange thing for an old lady in her late 60's to say. does any one have any ideas please?



posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 01:01 PM
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that does happen ms green there have been several pictures posted on another thread recently about 2 suns being visible at the same time; was some weather related phenomana.



posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by the seeker_713g
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that does happen ms green there have been several pictures posted on another thread recently about 2 suns being visible at the same time; was some weather related phenomana.



Oh Ok it just sounded odd, its not something Ive ever noticed before...not the predicted Red Dwarf then... interesting that two suns can appear in the sky like that though.



posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 01:59 PM
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87 pages of replies, 56 flags and 30 stars? Wow! Whether this actually happened or not, hardly seems to matter now does it? I mean, it looks like you have successfully plucked bits and pieces from other threads/theories and woven yourself quite a popular thead!
Bravo!

I'll refrain from passing judgment as it's clear you've given people considerable food for thought and discussion.


[edit on 19-4-2009 by X-tal_Phusion]



posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 02:31 AM
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Yep this is a long thread, never read it all too dang long. From what I understand from the last few pages, something is supposed to happen in April. Well in case I missed it was there anythingg?



posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 06:41 AM
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It must be terrible for this poor person, he's had this
visitation and some vital world-shattering news was
imparted to him, and we just ignore him?

He must be telling the truth the way he sees it... nobody
would make up such a outlandish tale.


Welcome to ATS boy in a dress.

A question, if I may; What is it about this thread that makes you believe it contains the truth? Your comments indicate that you have no question that it does, so why the certainty? It may sound facetious, but you do realise that people can lie, don’t you, both to themselves and others?

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…the OP was attacked for his beliefs but he has many friends who stand by his side. Seems even in his absence people come to bring his message down.
But basically the thread is about a message from an alien about how love can save the world, and I agree totally.


Hi Mr Green. whilst I support your right to believe anything you wish, is it me, or has your stance changed with regard to smokingman2006’s story?


People must realize that when inter dimensional beings like this are involved the rules are not the same in any way, shape or form. I believe SM was severly attacked in many ways from all sides and in the end it got to him.


Now you seem wholeheartedly in favour of this thread containing an account of a real contact; I thought you were reining in your judgment? Perhaps I’m wrong. Perhaps there have been behind the scenes communications, who knows…

And when did his contacts become “inter-dimensional”? How did I miss that bit? Can you point me towards where he said this, if you don’t mind? I thought they had space ships and came from the Pleiadies…



posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 07:04 AM
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I have been very busy this last month working on many things in the backgroung and making new networking contacts next week I am of to Jo-burg and will post from there to comfirm with readers that I am really there.


Being in Johannesburg isn’t part of the conspiracy, nor is it a conspiratorial place to go (dangerous, maybe). And why do we need to have conformation that you can get on a plane?


There I will meet a contact who claims to have smokinggun proof of huge amounts of gold that has being shipped to a very strange single location in Costa Rica.
There is also evidence that large amounts of Gold are being moved from many reserves over the last few month worldwide but the destination remains a mystery.


Smoking gun? We’ll come back to that...

Gold bullion being moved around is no big thing, it happens all the time as it is after all a commodity (just Google it and see how many pages come up), nor is it proof of your claims. And why wouldn’t bullion transfer destination be a mystery? If you were moving tons of bullion, would you want all and sundry to know where exactly it is being moved to and stored?

And besides, gold isn’t always moved physically:


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From what i have been told by my Nordic friends this is the final stage of clearing the house before something big is about to happen.
The Annunakis are in the end game here.
Will have further updates later.


Now, you used the phrase “smoking gun”. Does that mean that you are about to offer us real, unimpeachable evidence of aliens preparing to off-load our gold reserves, or will this be yet another chapter in your ongoing fantasy?

“Smoking gun” implies proof.

Proof, smokingman2006, proof.



posted on Apr, 21 2009 @ 04:10 AM
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Beamish if you feel that all is right with the balance of things here on Earth right now good for you.

Many dont and many more are waking up to the fact and coming to sites like this one searching for answers.

But each to his or her own.
Peace& health
SM



posted on Apr, 21 2009 @ 05:11 AM
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…if you feel that all is right with the balance of things here on Earth right now good for you.


Please, smokingman2006, don’t insult my intelligence.

You are still assuming that I am the perfect skeptic; impervious to conspiracy in all of its forms. Well, for you information, let me state the obvious; no I do not think that all is well with the world. In fact, far from it.

Your view of the MSM may well be that it is hopelessly infiltrated by evil alien overlords (which could be the case if they happen to be Australian), but at the end of the day it still conveys what is happening around the world. And who could not be affected by the dreadful imagery and human drama that we see every single day?


Many dont and many more are waking up to the fact and coming to sites like this one searching for answers.


And here is my problem; who said you had the answers?

Yes, people will come to this, and other, sites to seek out alternative viewpoints, and that is where ATS excels. The average MSM reader will find opinions to stretch the mind and facts they would not have normally had access to, all quite often supplied by experts or forward thinkers in their fields. There are a lot of very intellectual people populating this site, and that wealth of educated opinion is a treasure and shouldn’t be ignored.

Then there’s you. Doom and gloom and aliens in Star Trek suits who belong to Galactic Federations etc.

Many will read your posts and take it as reality, and that was obviously the intention.

But more will read about you and realise very swiftly that whilst your “message” is generic and repetitive and miserably apocryphal, there is also no attempt on your part at distancing yourself from the reasoning behind this “communication”. There is no humbleness, no humility.

In your replies to the faithful, you have assumed the mantle of sage. But when you are questioned, you become defensive as if the questioner is attacking your opinion; hardly the behaviour of a “chosen one” having been handed the keys to wisdom, is it?

What it is, however, is extremely telling.

We all want answers. But nobody will find them on this thread.



posted on Apr, 21 2009 @ 05:27 AM
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Very sad Beamish you are a tiny little pawn in a minipulated reality and dont even see through this.

Your are distracted with MSM carefully crafted stories and are blind to what is going on today.

It only because of blind sheeps like yourself that we are in this mess today.

When the powers to be introduced the Euro dollar they wiped out the middle class yet very few realise this today that are living in the Euro zone.

Your are an actor right?

So pretending is your trade right?

Well just pretend that it is all going to be ok then...........



A little more to add here old friend you say I am not humbled enough very true but tell me how can one be humble with you see that all that money that is been thrown at the greedy bankers to prop up serial robbers at tax payers expense , while this very amount could wipe out starvation on the planet for 50 years.
Now that is something I would not mind paying with for with my tax dollars.
Yes I think that there is something very wrong with my race when hunger and suffering comes very low on the list of must do.

[edit on 21-4-2009 by smokingman2006]



posted on Apr, 21 2009 @ 05:50 AM
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…you are a tiny little pawn in a minipulated reality and dont even see through this. Your are distracted with MSM carefully crafted stories and are blind to what is going on today. It only because of blind sheeps like yourself that we are in this mess today..


There’s that terrible lack of humility again…

And now the world is in peril because of me?

With respect, get a grip.

If you can’t argue a point, may I just point out that it is not only cheap, but also underhand to accuse your questioner of collaboration or stupidity? That is a classic skeptical/dis-info ruse, by the way, and does absolutely nothing for the credibility of your claims.

And please don’t insinuate that I am one of these much touted “sheeple”. I’ve had a strong fascination in the stranger side of reality ever since I was a young boy and have held the belief that nothing is as it seems since then. And as I believe you have already stated, you are relatively new to all this and had no interest before.


Your are an actor right?


You’re too kind…


So pretending is your trade right? Well just pretend that it is all going to be ok then...........


It’s strange that when pushed, your anger at being questioned manifests into arguments focused on financial collapse, exploitative monetary tactics and media manipulation, not aliens and this impending mass. I could be wrong, but is this an underlying hatred of money, or rather the monied classes, that I’m sensing?



posted on Apr, 21 2009 @ 06:02 AM
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I stand by my last post here sleepers like you are the main cause of our problems, problem is they number in the billions.

And I have no problem with money or the money class if that money was earned and not stolen.

But I do have a huge problem with human being dieing every day from hunger & sickness while western nations wage false flag wars in oil rich nations that cost billions of dollars and only help increase the hate and killing.

This has nothing to do with my experience it is only my personal point of view.

Peace & health
SM



posted on Apr, 21 2009 @ 06:42 AM
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I stand by my last post here sleepers like you are the main cause of our problems, problem is they number in the billions.


Define “sleeper”. Give me an exact translation of what that word means in context, not as in its over use as a buzzword, but what it actually represents.

And please, for the sake of common respect, lets leave out the “us and them/like you” rhetoric you are so fond of peppering your posts with, shall we? We’re all adults so let’s behave and converse like adults.

I’ll start the ball rolling by giving you my opinion of what it means as seen from your perspective; someone who doesn’t believe what I believe.

Every decent human being detests the scenes of poverty and death we see each and every year. No one ever said that our civilization is fair, or even just, but for all its flaws it’s all we have other than giving in to the horrors of outright barbarism and anarchy.

The fact is, we just haven’t gotten it right yet.

But we will.

We all have the desire to live in peace, but our animal instincts just won’t let us do that yet.

But they will eventually.

We just need the catalyst to start that pivotal change of perspective.

What we don’t need is to be told that we are all going to die in a massive catastrophe engineered by evil slave masters. What we need is hope, real hope for the future, not a reminder that our baser instincts have prevailed in some of us, and now those few are leading us into a future the likes of which the most cynical of forecasters could never have foreseen.



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