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My first contact with another being

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posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 02:59 PM
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SM also maybe the feeling you got before you had the experience were the emotions of what you were feeling as a Commander? As if, the emotions came before the experience- it was what got your attention to show you where you were about to be headed for that moment in time.

Also, not that I think this is necessarily the case but, I've read about also being given a fake reality by aliens to disguise the what they are doing with you at that moment. I read about this just the other day (it was an extremely interesting website from a lifelong abductee whose now an investigator). That just came to mind, not that it pertains to what you experienced.




posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 03:01 PM
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double post

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posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 03:10 PM
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Originally posted by dawnslight

Also, not that I think this is necessarily the case but, I've read about also being given a fake reality by aliens to disguise the what they are doing with you at that moment. I read about this just the other day (it was an extremely interesting website from a lifelong abductee whose now an investigator). That just came to mind, not that it pertains to what you experienced.


Yes Ive heard this too, that false scenarios are put into your head to hide whats really going on. You remember say being in Egypt but really all the time you were on a space craft. Not saying this is what SM remembered as it does sound more like a past life memory than a faked memory, but I too have heard of this.



posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 08:30 PM
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Originally posted by cindymars
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Interesting.....I would just assume you are not the same Brian Desborough that is a
friend of David Icke's.

Oh the irony!

I have tried reading your article on Indigo's, I found it interesting. I will have to do some research of my own before I form an opinion.


Hi cindymars,

I do not know who's friends with whom, I suppose you are correct as there appear some connection between Brian Desborough and David Icke. Never the less, I hold no quarrel against either of them, or anyone else for that matter.

Though, I am not Brian Desborough and your reply appears as if I am him and the author of those texts.



posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 08:51 PM
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Many talk about the "map" past couple of pages...

Map is not the territory


@smokingman2006,

Regarding your vision, asking anyone else but yourself what it means is futile because others will have a different explanation based on their belief system. Only you can get the real meaning of that vision through the symbols associated with it and what they mean to you.

Or ask your alleged friends for help, maybe they had something to do with it, or some opposing force did (I am not using attributes "good" and "evil" here, they are meaningless).



posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 12:41 AM
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Hi Amigo

I will ask my friends about the last vision when I see them again it has troubled me more the most the other ones because it feels more personal to me.

To those posters who ask why the Ets can not give us a cheap form of energy the answer to this is they can but are afraid that we would turn this cheap energy for use in weapons of destruction.
And I must say our past speaks for itself here.

We must first learn to control ourselve regarding our fellow man, only then can we hope to get advance help.
Peace& hope
SM


XL5

posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 01:22 AM
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Sure we can turn free energy into a weapon but we can also use it for peace and restoring the enviroment, you can't say the same for nukes, guns, bombs and tanks. At least electrical energy is not radioactive. Sure we can use free energy to power weapons, but the millitary has this tech already. Tax money (our money) pays for their gas/batteries so its already free energy for them.

The public already have potent weapons to use, our brains, our money and our numbers. We don't use any of it anyway untill we get cheated out of money, even then we just complain a bit but what ever we do, its not a unified effort.

If every one didn't have to pay for heating/cooling, electricity, gas and possibly water and were living the good life because of free energy. Then the govt. stepped in and taxed us even half of what we used to pay, I'm sure most would wake up. People don't even demand financial transparancy of where thier taxes go. The govt could take porn, junk food (fast food), video games and kick peoples dogs and a few UNFOCUSED riots might take place but the people would go back to sleep, take the money away from them and it might do the trick.

Think of it like this, if a cave man asked for something to keep him warm....would we still be killing, raping and taking what we want with sticks and stones or would we have frozen to death.



posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 08:17 AM
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But free energy is not even needed at this point, except where it relates to space technology, and this we may already have (but the cartel aren't telling us) or will soon have.

We have extremely good ample energy available to us. For decades this has not been a problem, as SOLUTION after SOLUTION have been found, then buried. This is about the will and criminal activity of our leaders. The recent advancement (again this could have been known for many decades already by scientists "in the know") in solar is incredible, not to mention geo-thermal which is renewable and hence, the work horse energy source to have as back up.
We could already bring back deserts, waters are raising, and can be purified.
We could have skyscraper greenhouses in the desert for enormous food crops, use mountains for wind, and be creating equality for all people.

The biggest concern is how we treat each other, and the co-dependency we exhibit by electing the world's worst criminals, to lead us. In other words we are empowering their crimes. Unless this changes, other advancements will not be coming for the masses.

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posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 08:42 AM
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The wind of major change are blowing our way and this man made financial crisis may well be the catalyse that wakes people up from their cocoon that the current system has put them in.

Nothing like shaking the very foundation of ones belief in their cosy survival and wellbeing to wake them up that something is very wrong and big brother is no more of a friend to them, but a system design to take blood ,sweat and Taxes and give you back very little.

The walls of the Dam are nearly bursting very soon the people will have a voice again......

Peace & hope
SM



posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 02:28 PM
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What I really wish we could so is find out is what the best course of action might be, one that could help us awaken to the situation this planet finds itself in, and our need to start to demonstrate true concern for each other. Aside from some who feel they are waiting, there is much to do here and now. Local groups? Ufo related or survival related or nwo related? Bumper stickers?
I can think of some good ones! Which way is best?

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XL5

posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 05:21 PM
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Mystiq, if I could make 90%effecient solarcells at home or drill for geothermal and not have to spend over 50$, then you may have a point. The govt. /mill. are hiding this tech and the only way anyone will get it from them is if we awaken and have massive riots and wars. Wouldn't it be better if we just got the tech the peaceful way and turn it around so the govt./mill. have a choice to fight us or come clean instead?

Even if we did have solarcells or ANY other alternative energy source that can meet our demands, the only people who can enjoy lower energy bills are the rich! If the people who are about to lose their homes could make free energy FOR FREE using what they have laying around and forgo foreclosure, the markets might turn around.

How could you say free energy thats simple to make is not needed. The people who have lost their jobs can not pay for solar cells that will pay for them selves in TEN years! It would be like saying the homeless don't need jobs because people give them change. Free energy is like a stimulus package for people who still have homes.



posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 05:40 PM
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Have you read any of gl2's threads on here or his book alienminds where he says there is not such thing as truly free energy. But that it clocks the sun, the galaxy, the universe. I've read in other accounts that on their own planets ets use alternate energy sources, such as solar, wind etc. I just think we're looking at this all wrong. By the way, I want a moneyless equal resource society as well. This is also is how ets live.



posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 06:35 PM
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Thankyou for sharing your experiences with the rest of us on ATS. I find it very compelling and am eager to read further instalments. I have little interest in the many attempts on this thread to derail your message and question your integrity. I merely wish to continue reading about your ongoing encounters with your friends from beyond. I wish you good luck on your endeavours which may become more treacherous as you reach more people with your message.



posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by smokingman2006
To those posters who ask why the Ets can not give us a cheap form of energy the answer to this is they can but are afraid that we would turn this cheap energy for use in weapons of destruction.
And I must say our past speaks for itself here.

We must first learn to control ourselve regarding our fellow man, only then can we hope to get advance help.
Peace& hope
SM


Hi smokingman2006

That's just nonsense and BS and you know it - and your alleged "friends" know it, too. Stop being so blind, who's side are you on anyways?!

The sci-fi devices (for the lack of a better term because that's how they might appear to ordinary people) are already in the hands of the WRONG people. They have already made the weapons out of them and all kinds of other things, they won't be making weapons from any potential stuff we might get because our stuff is toys compared to theirs and it will take us decades to catch up.

Let's not forget these WRONG people are the ones holding us in chains. We need to break those chains, and so to level the playing field a small technology "donation" from the alleged "friends" towards breaking the bonds should be in order.

We don't need that much, a proof of principle device that could get every woman, man and child off the grid. If people did not have to pay for power to get light, heating and cooling then they will have more time to think about those chains they are bonded with.

Also, something to clean water, something simple and efficient. Where there is clean water there is life. Half the World is in the slums because they have no clean water and due to bad sanitation they die from diseases people in the "modern" countries have even not heard of.

Lastly, a universal gizmo (small and portable) for healing bodies of any ailments (dis-eases or unbalances). I know there is at least one, I dreamt of it.


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smokingman2006, if it was me, I'd seriously consider my "friendship" with these alleged "friends". They either cough up something useful or the friendship is over and we part ways. They can take their message and shove it up where the Sun doesn't shine.

You, me, everybody else do not need rhetorics any more. We have heard enough of that already. What we need is action, useful things, or something to empower us. KNOWLEDGE. REAL KNOWLEDGE, not fear mongering, as we are getting that from our own "overlords."


Oh, and by the way, "Hope" is a future tense word that carries totally opposite charge (intent wise) of what most people think it does. The FOOLS hope...how's that?

Rather than doing something NOW, HOPING for something else LATER means you remain docile (and asleep) NOW. When LATER comes up, go ahead and take that you were HOPING for to the bank and see if you can get something.

Peace, as I said so many times will not be until there's inner peace within us all (and I feel a bit agitated right now after writing all of the above).

I forgive you all, and I forgive myself.



posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 07:18 PM
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Traditionally in ufology accounts the pleiadians refused to exchange any tech with the gov/cabal.

www.internationalnewsagency.org...


The overtures were rejected. [10] The significant point about Cooper’s version is that the humanoid extraterrestrial race was not willing to enter into technology exchanges that might help weapons development, and instead was focused on spiritual development. Significantly, the overtures of these extraterrestrials were turned down. Confirmation that the First Contact meeting involved extraterrestrials who were effectively spurned for taking what might be considered a principled stand on technology assistance and nuclear weapons comes from the son of a former Navy Commander who claimed that his father had been present at the First Contact event on February 20-21, 1954. According to Charles L. Suggs, a retired Sgt from the US Marine Corps, his father Charles L. Suggs, (1909-1987) was a former Commander with the US Navy who attended the meeting at Edwards Air force base with Eisenhower. [11] Sgt Suggs recounted his father’s experiences from the meeting in a 1991 interview with a prominent UFO researcher: Charlie's father, Navy Commander Charles Suggs accompanied Pres. Ike along with others on Feb. 20th. They met and spoke with 2 white-haired Nordics that had pale blue eyes and colorless lips. The spokesman stood a number of feet away from Ike and would not let him approach any closer. A second nordic stood on the extended ramp of a bi-convex saucer that stood on tripod landing gear on the landing strip. According to Charlie, there were B-58 Hustlers on the field even though the first one did not fly officially till 1956. These visitors said they came from another solar system. They posed detailed questions about our nuclear testing.


In another account I read about the unholy 6, I believe from the Dulce Papers, it was said that the government only dealt with those who would exchange technology, which is primarily the renegades, as all good ets will do nothing of the kind with a planet that is like ours, or uses nuclear. In fact it said that our leaders fire upon the good ets.

This isn't a cop out by the ets. This is something I greatly admire them for.

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posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 09:30 PM
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I think what you experienced is a time slip. Past, present and future are all existing simultaneously. All one has to do, if they have a laser focus that is, is to dial into a certain time. Perhaps the wisdom/experience you gained from
being a commander, is needed now at this stage of your life.

I once experienced a shift in time while driving my car. It was like I went
back to the past and the view from my car window had changed. Later, that
day the view had gone back to normal. It was strange and still effects me
today. But I do remember, I was very focused on something I dearly wanted
and the view involved that desire. I hope this helps



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 12:55 PM
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Seeing as these 'friends' of ours don't want to give us technology incase we turn it into a weapon they need to realise that we can turn anything into a weapon even something like a bottle of water, its in our nature.

But if these 'friends' want us to change our ways they need to do more than they are at present. Some technology can be dangerous in the wrong hands, food and water tech can be lethal by putting it into an area that really needs it, the mad rush will be fatal for some who run to it, children would be stepped on , the old shoved aside by the stronger to grab what they can. 'Star Trek Food Replicators' are a no no, a good idea but would be turned into a weapon as you would start to ask for something different , alcohol, maybe even poisons to give to your neighbours so it leaves you to be able to move the device to your own property.The ET's wouldn't want that and neither would I.


If these ET 'friends' want us to grow spiritaually then give the contactees something to increase their abilities, of allow the contactees the means to give these devices to those that want it or to those they trust.

Something like monatomic powders or even a piece of jewelry to increase their psychic abilities would be unobtrusive and wouldn't be seen by the masses, unless of course something as odd as a gold headband on a man would be obvious but a couple of earrings wouldn't be.Of course a device from a very advanced race would be able to be programmed for use by a human that doesn't contradict morality, ie, a telekenitic device that can change the roll of dice in Las Vegas is out of the question, but earrings that allow you to hear the thoughts of others or communicate with ET's, or even sense the emotions of others would be helpful but stops at 'controlling' the thoughts of boldily functions of others.

That way the more people that get this kind of technology would be able to increase their abilities and then recognise those able to further the cause of the ET 'friends' to the benefit of Man as a whole.

Just standing back and saying " you need to grow spiritually " is no good for the masses , like us, who want to grow but firstly don't know where to start and secondly don't have the means to actually grow to break the chains. It is hard for us to grow spiritually when we're pounded day and night by negativity by TPTB and the MSM, we can change our ways, we as individuals can be happy and help other people but still we're not good enough for the ET's to want to contact us because we're not spiritual enough.



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 01:18 PM
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I'm not sure about the jewelry aspect, or needing the tech gadgets, though for some time now I've felt a handy dandy wrist teleporter would be awesome, as if its missing and have felt its a standard issue item, lol. But the idea of men standing out with tiaras is probably not a good idea. However, this does bring to mind, as a great fan of visual kei and the jrock scene my old idea of a kind of consulting business makeover or men, and hair makeup, whole rockstar look.


But this is hard because there is such a feeling of waiting. And dangers increasing by the minute. And for those who would simply come out and start campaigning, perhaps personal dangers as well. This thread made me feel that its very close to starting, the depopulation for all but the wealthy: www.abovetopsecret.com...
Also, if this danger or smokescreen is happening over here, maybe its because they're arranging something over there, and confusing us.
I don't know if it was on US news, but it did make cbc here in Canada.
Some kind kind of accident huh!!!!


I feel like we need to get going, but in numbers or safely. And writing or a campaign is the correct response. Something. We need to wake them up. I even thought of an online radio show like coast to coast, of course we need a non-shy and well spoken frontsperson, or 2 or 3 or 10, to do this, and lots of ads to pay for it, those ads could be informative too in part, and also more grass roots for eco businesses and artists. Music should also be a part of this.

I love this video and band. Every time I see it, she becomes humanity, and he is like a nordic trying to avoid helping. Or about responsiblity. This is how I see it:


Music could do a lot as well. Writing. But then the best approach? How?

I live in a very conservative Baptist area, and handing out flyers isn't going to go over well unless it gets really bad, and I'm trying to avoid that!

I feel this waiting and keep saying: reporting for active duty!!!! What?? Wait?? Thats not active enough for me!

Edit to add: In the video this woman does what I want humanity to start doing: she blows their hoods off! Impact!!!

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[edit on 1-3-2009 by mystiq]



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by mystiq

I feel like we need to get going, but in numbers or safely. And writing or a campaign is the correct response. Something. We need to wake them up. I even thought of an online radio show like coast to coast, of course we need a non-shy and well spoken frontsperson, or 2 or 3 or 10, to do this, and lots of ads to pay for it, those ads could be informative too in part, and also more grass roots for eco businesses and artists. Music should also be a part of this.

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I was pondering this morning about how in the world to wake people up.
It's darn near impossible! If Bluebeam goes off, that'll start something going, but surely not the good way.

I thought about starting small and local. Like maybe open a discussion board website, then pass out flyers with some basic information and a link to the website. If they go to the website, you could then at least start a dialogue with local folks. But what words to use on the flyer as to not sound completely nuts? I don't know yet. At least in the area I live in, there are many 'crazies' and the flyer would either be taken seriously, or just taken as the thought of some loony tunes (me!)


If I am correct, the least we'd need to accomplish is to have people alter their thought processes towards creating the new earth. Right? Our thoughts are taking us down the path of destruction....

The theme song could be Don't Worry Be Happy!


darn laptop keys

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posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 03:26 PM
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My guess would be some very heavy advertising online through only anonymous sources as of course most if not all world governments would hunt down the instigator.... But if you send a thread through e-mail (though how do you hide the source?) hummm.... now that is maybe an idea too right? If you have even 100 people starting it out from the very beginning I'd imagine it would be a hard thing to tear down. We could never get it on the television, or at least the full extent of what we would try to convey, b/c I'd imagine that'd get cracked down real fast. An e-mail message though could work, I've heard of messages that stay online for years! I mean, what are governments going to do, tell people to stop sending the messages? Of course, they would deny the info., but people would seriously start thinking. I think it would stir up quite a discussion every where! Just ideas....

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