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posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 08:59 AM
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I don’t think Autowrench in this post is trying to convert the disbeliever?Why do we need to try and convert people to believe in someone elses experiences?


Why would you not want to persuade all and sundry to the reality of what, if true, is a contact between sentient species? Is it not important, or even imperative, to spread the word of alien contact, especially as they are bringing us such messages of import?

And what is wrong in trying to "convert" the disbeliever? To be honest, I would seriously question the veracity of any creed, or follower of a creed who preaches the possibility of deliverance from an impending apocalyptic scenario but isn't bothered or even concerned if you believe it or not. And if that's the case, then I would question the very essence of this "Pleiadian's" message.


Only the disbeliever has the ability to change their own mind. Searching externally for proof and obtaining it doesn’t necessary make the disbeliever a believer automatically.


With respect, I don't agree. You are suggesting that it's down to the individual to choose whether the message is real or not, not the message's ability to change minds.
I've read Lord of the Rings, and I know it isn't real even though it is one of the most impressively constructed and researched books in the English language.
I've read the Bible, and I am pretty darn sure most if it records real events that the contemporary authors struggled to recount.
Both had an affect on me.

Both made me think differently, and imparted on me an enlightened perspective, in varying ways. They influenced me. So why shouldn't the subject of this thread do exactly the same thing? It speaks of things we only read of in sci-fi, and insists they are real and imminent.
So why the give or take attitude?


It takes a person to question themselves their o
wn lives, their beliefs of their own existence, reasoning’s etc to come to terms with their own perception of reality.


My perception of reality is unshakeable.
I nearly choked to death not so long ago. A normal day could well have been transformed into something horrific for all my family. In those few, panicked seconds, I was separated from the normal, arrogant invincibility of everyday existence and knew with absolute clarity that I am mortal. That we're all mortal and never far from finding that out. It was a lesson in the certainty of existence, and how tenuous our term on earth can be.

Now, I want to know what that term is for. Why are we here?

My perception of reality always included the existence of aliens. I am open to the concept of them arriving here in monstrous starships. If you don't have access to the whole truth of everything, how can anyone say with certainty that that scenario couldn't happen?
I can't.
I'm just saying that I don't believe any extraterretrial would hand over such an important proclamation to bad orators.


If you want a story that has gravitas and humour and the other adjectives there are plenty of good books out there to read fiction or non – fiction.


That's just the thing! I think we are reading fiction!


I don’t think the Pleiadians always go to great storytellers to tell their messages too.. I could be wrong however?...Think its more about sharing info than entertainment.


So why on earth would they go to ones who struggle to make themselves heard? How does that help their cause or, more importantly, ours? We're the ones supposedly under threat. Wouldn't it have been a more prudent course of action for the "Pleiadians" to have approached gifted orators, or at least proffessional communicators?
Any important declaration can be ruined very easily by the method of its delivery.


Maybe if ATS has a section for ATS - "pro copy only members" then that would bring better quality of reading perhaps.. lol


Yes, maybe it would!
But that would only compound the problem of sorting the wheat from the chaff if a pro writer decided to stir up some trouble!




posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by Pericle

It's plain obvious that our way of life is unsustainable, the question is when the system will break and collapse. With it, many people too.



Stop making logical sense you might confuse some people hear on ATS.


I agree with you thoughts 100%



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 10:22 AM
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posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by malcr

Originally posted by Beamish
reply to post by smokingman2006
 




There, that dramatic enough for you? Easy, isn't it, to knock up a little piece of prose?

Do I believe you had a visitation? About as much I do you being a middle aged man.



Hmmm yes my thoughts exactly. Yet more proof that ATS is a magnet for the paranoid and delusional these days.....People should really learn to take their medication!



Here we go again.. How come someone feel the urge to call people mentally ill, just because they have an unusual story to tell?

Don`t get me wrong, I don`t nessereraly believe what the OP is stating, we have alle heard similar stuff before, but who knows, we just have to wait a couple of more years, and we will know! It was a good read anyways..


So if you find threads like this THAT annoying and you don`t have anything relevant to say please think twise about posting.

If something crasy happenede to me, I would almost be a little afraid to post it here on ATS beacause of peple like this. It`s too bad..




[edit on 15-9-2008 by Anom3]



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 11:17 AM
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honestly....if that was to be true...they had silenced you by now... don'tya think........please...



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 11:18 AM
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Hi All
First of about me I am a security analysis and equity dealer I live in remote north eastern france (Near Metz) and work in Luxembourg and the way things are going today I may not have to quit my job if the market gets any worse I wont have a company to go back to

I was born in 1963 so I am really past middle age.
my job requires me to have sound judgement and I really believe that I had encounter with a being not of this planet
Last month while in canne for my summer holiday I went to the Baoli club with my wife and friends this club is reputed to have some of the prettist women in Europe in it ,The inner and outer beauty of the being I encountered was at least ten times more than any in that club.
Her blue eyes where ablaze with wisedom and goodness and her aura was addictive
During our time together I felt safe and secure and if you feel that something like this comming out of a remote forest after 11 pm is a hoax good luck to you all
Her real message to me was that even if people perish doing hard times the inner self that drive us all is totally connected to the creator (not GoD) and will get a rebirthing on another level in even stronger form.
She made me understand that good and evil is not judged just choices we make in life>
Now people the reason they are taking some off us out of harms way and leaving other is that this mass on its 3500 orbit has past us a few time before each time it has caused big problem due to the disturbance of our magnetic forces even the ETS cant predict for sure what the outcome will be alot depends on how our Sun react so as an insurance policy against a worse case senario they are helping insure that our race survives
Still not sure how all this is getting done
underground base are getting built in many countries but only the key people will get into them.
be well

[edit on 15-9-2008 by smokingman2006]



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 11:57 AM
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I have images in my head of 144,000 human resettling on a much smaller planet than earth that has three moon and these images are beautful


Just out of curiousity....does anyone find this number weird. I say this because this is the number of people that i believe the Jehovah's Witnesses believe are going to heave, and this number is also mentioned in the book of revelations.

Do you think this is coinsidence?

I just struct me odd that this was the number that he used about the people being saved and going to a better place, and off that i can run but i won't.



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 12:07 PM
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merci pour votre histoire ^_^
thank you for your story! and i mean that in the way of any anecdotal telling, i don't believe it is a fiction!

What do you think you will do to spread the message? Did she give you any details you haven't shared here yet? Thanks!



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 12:12 PM
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smokingman2006,

Why would a wise loving, and beautiful being come to tell you that many are going to perish?

If I was a wise loving, and beautiful being from another planet and wanted to assist those in the path of destruction, I would give them options to survive or I would show them that if their human bodies do perish where they will go.

If I was this advanced being I would show all the positive things that can be done and constructive things that can be accomplished.

I will not discount your story because the signs I personally see are alarming these days. All around things as we have known them are collapsing and changing.

I can see that our current system of living in not sustainable and will change by default.

I would welcome these types of benevolent beings with open arms, because our current methods or living are a self fulfilling destructive path, that repeats itself over and over. How many times do we stick our hands in the fire? Let's just wake the hell up.



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by Mr Gone
reply to post by smokingman2006
 


I don't think a war would distract us from a second sun in the sky.


People aren't that interested in the sky, though. For all you know, they might be like, "huh. Neat! I can get a darker tan!"

I don't know what to say about the alien part, but who said little gray men were the only ones?



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 12:27 PM
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I call shenanigans. These type of post should really be ignored...i really feel like there's a group of people trying to spread bs info like this in hopes of making it happen via consciousness...satan anyone? xD but seriously there's an underground group of people that keep posting this same kinda bs over and over again...cant the ats admins just ban them?


-sorry if i offended anyone...its just the truth IMO



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 12:28 PM
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To theses being death is not final its a passing another level nothing more

As for why not save everyone, I dont know may be we are too many this vision she gave me of the new place seemed much smaller than earth.

At least she didnt ask me to built an Ark

since my encounter i have many strange vision but I cant talk about them yet trying to get my head around it all
I chat with strangers on line but cant tell my friend strange.

my sense of wellness has improved

[edit on 15-9-2008 by smokingman2006]



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by smokingman2006
My three cats are very good judges of people they even bolt from most of my friends


The one I have does to, I know what you mean.

Thanks for sharing your experience. I look at the sky these days and it just doesn't seem like the sky I remembered as a child. Something is different, and I believe that some type of change is going to occur soon.



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 12:38 PM
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For one they wouldn't know our language nevermind our movements, hand signals, e.c.t. The only reason they would contact us is to kill for resources, and save the planet for things they would need. There is no good and evil side to any story its just fighting for survival, it may sound naive but i hate these conspiricies and stories... What makes you the special one being contacted by a higher being. They would choose someone in a higher position with power.

Nice story but why would you be sharing it with us on a website such as this one.?

BS!

P.s How can they percieve what death is, they would know as much as us. In


In Reality We Cannot Comprehend


[edit on 15-9-2008 by Ryan Lloyd]



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 12:38 PM
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Registered: 30-10-2005
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Mood: Suspicious
Member is on ATS now

Gidday Mate

Nice to see some fair dink aussie around may have a tinny of four X with you one day

go the Aussie



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 01:12 PM
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Next time you talk to her, tell her to start a thread on ATS. That way she can see the ignorance of mankind first hand, and her people can save their time and effort by realizing that this planet and its inhabitants are not worth the effort.

Come on people, feeding a thread you don't think is plausable by bashing the idea or person is ignorance at it's best. Some people enjoy these threads as they are hoping for a positive future and are willing to consider that anything could be possible.

The people that try to discredit every idea that seems far-fetched has already given up on a better future and is only looking for doom-and-gloom; and if they can't find it, they create it.

I'm personally getting tired of filtering through sarcasm and negativity.



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 01:50 PM
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you might want to change the title, it could mean, your first contact, with ANY being. like a hermit...



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 02:12 PM
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I think the most rational and scientific question here would be,,,Was she hot?



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 03:01 PM
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I am new to ATS although I have been reading this forum and others for many years. When I get my nerve up I will share my experience with 2 small "beings of light" in the summer of 2006 in Connecticut. They did NOT want us to approach them tho they slowly approached us....



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 03:04 PM
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Next time you talk to her, tell her to start a thread on ATS. That way she can see the ignorance of mankind first hand, and her people can save their time and effort by realizing that this planet and its inhabitants are not worth the effort.


May I ask a simple question or two? What makes you believe the veracity of this thread? What is "ignorant" about healthy skepticism?

And on a personal note; I know of many people who are absolutely worth the "effort". You don't know them, and you never will know how good and kind they are, so why is is it so easy to write them off?


Come on people, feeding a thread you don't think is plausable by bashing the idea or person is ignorance at it's best.


Ignorance?

Its' being rational!

Again; what makes you believe the op is telling the truth? Or is it just the feel good message that makes you defensive, without giving thought to the possibility that what you are reading is fiction?


Some people enjoy these threads as they are hoping for a positive future and are willing to consider that anything could be possible.


I believe anything is possible. But I can differentiate fiction, no matter how good it makes me feel.


The people that try to discredit every idea that seems far-fetched has already given up on a better future and is only looking for doom-and-gloom; and if they can't find it, they create it.


Who on earth wants doom and gloom? Just because someone does not believe every alien based prediction that appears on these boards does not mean that that they are doom merchants! In fact, quite the opposite! Just because we don't believe, does not mean we are against!


I'm personally getting tired of filtering through sarcasm and negativity.


Your going to have to get used to it. Logic, reason and clarity of thought will not go away.





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