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posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 09:24 PM
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posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 09:51 PM
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Page after page we get more and more confusion and now new people joining in to stir the pot...

@ Mr Green,

Sorry about me using acronyms, it comes out sometimes because people I usually hang around with in real life know what they mean...


EDP - Emotionally Disturbed Person
DID - Dissociative Identity Disorder (former MPD - Multiple Personality Disorder)

@beamish

I second that comment about the new lecture from Richard Hoagland - I am watching it right now as I write this, and am pretty fascinated by the torsion fields theories. I read about them in the past but did not make the connections that Hoagland did with the Hyperdimensional Physics. Suffice to say, I still have the other part of the lecture to go through...



@ mystiq


Originally posted by mystiq
... and Miriam Delicado saying that there is a possibility Kachina may return, it depends on our consciousness rising, and that danger may occur for this world, she says in 2010. She talks about the safe zones as being ones you may be able to find by studying the myths and legends and seeking the knowledge of the first nations people, for they are the keepers of the knowledge, and the only ones where certain groups were protected during the cataclysm that killed most of the earth off...


This is the kind of nonsense I'm talking about, this lady Miriam Delicado who to me sounds like the self-proclaimed knower (or others here would say "guru"). She "knows" where these places are, if I'm reading this correctly, but will not disclose them to the rest of us for we are not worthy of that knowledge?

And as any other guru who has disciples does, we must do our "homework", in the words of Jordan Maxwell (another "guru") to find things out on our own.

Total BS imho, we should work together collaboratively, not against each other.


Which brings us to another "character" who just appeared on the stage recently...


@ RussianScientists

What is your dis-info purpose and agenda here, "comrade" ?

You know what I said in my previous post to you and I'm sticking to it. That reply to headlightone was totally uncalled for (disrespectful). I am not here to defend anyone but I found that reply inappropriate:


Originally posted by RussianScientists
Comrad "headlightone" when I look in the mirror I don't see a higher being, but I see someone that has knowledge that no others on Earth have. I've never been around an alien or even a person that has met one, I know nothing about aliens. When you have something useful or positive for this thread, then please enlighten us with this knowledge.


Perhaps you should apply the last sentence to yourself:

When *you* have something useful and positive for this thread, then please enlighten us with it. So far you had nothing...


@ smokingman2006

Take a break, by all means. Gather your thoughts, re-examine your feelings. Try to step away from the situation and look at it as an observer. Perhaps there's more insight to be had from that meditation...but by all means challenge everything and always seek answers to questions.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 10:34 PM
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Miriam Delicado's interviews can be found on the project camelot website. I have her book. She's a contactee of nordics and is strongly connected to the Hopi's and the four corners, which is the safe place she knows of. She has said there are others and to look for the legends of the natives. She has a website and is very much about collecting seeds. She's not sure that Kachina will come for apparently this has something to do with ets, or our consciousness. Kachina is a blue star from the Hopi legend that will end this world in cataclysm and bring in a new cooperative era. She lives close to me, in Vancouver, and when my native friend saw her interview, she was very impressed, and told me that the natives have been collecting seeds for years. She also talks about nordics and cloudships coming.

Miraim also speaks of a moment in time when all the contactees will come together and give a message to the people of the earth. There is a possiblity in my mind that there is a connection between SM's contacts and hers. Her contacts talk about being the caretakers of the planet from our formation and the various eras, the dinosaurs, the time of the flood, when the Hopis were taken underground by the antmen in their legends. The natives are described as being honored because of their moneyless resource society which was one of the most idealistic, and therefore many were spared and survived from the last era, therefore they are the keepers of the knowledge.

My "mission" is a moneyless resource society, much like gl2 promotes in his thread, a more alien like economy, as well the venus project. I don't want a reset button however, but clean technology and advancement for the human race. I'm very drawn to Miriam's experiences. Especially since there are parts that reflect on my own feeling of what's most important.



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 03:01 AM
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Hi Mystiq

You could be right as the main message I seem to get is that only we can change ourselves, Free will is good but it sometime clashes with the true mission of our energy sources (Souls) which are pre set at creation with a good and positive path but many never dig deep within themselves to become better intune with this inner guide and are brainwashed with false Gods or are corupted with modern values.

We all understand the effects of negativity in our every life yet fail to realize that the opposite positive value not only improves us as people but helps the universe at its very core.

[edit on 8-2-2009 by smokingman2006]



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 03:51 AM
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As a soldier of this so -calll darkness. Tell me about the night and what it means?...Y SERIOUS QUSTIONS? You claim to know what your are talking about. Now I ask for YOU these OF THESE little idiots WHAT HAS ANYONE DONE....they surely must hAVe evidence...oh wait...the government has taken it....lol.. Tell me one thing (since there are no aliens) do you really know things? aS A MATTER OF Fact of the matter is this. Why do the aliens call worlds/starsystems what we call them..I am pretty sure they have thier own name for planets.

Oh yes comrade whatever..if I cared about your opinion..
.. I would seriously take what you had to say to heart. Since I do not care about thhat little man down the street( A DELUSON)...
what makes your opinion matter? i mean no disrespect , I am saying, what I say, and it is not for approval, I say what I want...Oh yes ..christinaty is only one 1/3 of the worlds religion, and it is only popular is western society. So tell me...one thing...what makes your religion more important than another

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posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 05:58 AM
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Originally posted by RussianScientists


[edit on 7-2-2009 by RussianScientists]


Hello ComradScientist

Why did you remove your very long post above? I read it late last night. You spoke of many things and its a shame you've deleted this as I wanted to ask you questions on it but was too tired last night.

You said you were a real scientist and that youd sat back and watched your colleagues invent boring useless stuff (Im sorry if Im not quoting you correctly here) but you remained strong and had invented many great things. What sort of scientitst are you, Im a scientist too so I would love to know. Especially as you are a Russian scientist, which may I say without any offense to you is the perfect addition to this threads many twists and turns.


You spoke of being the holder of a great secret that would save many, you knew how to predict the earthquakes and how the waters would flow and into what areas, youd be able to give safe locations out and which under ground bunkers to go to.

There was much in your post and Im having trouble remembering it but you did say you would be able to release this knowledge soon to the world.

If you are telling the truth then when will you be able to release this information. Your post almost made out you were the only person that had this information. Is this correct? You said by the end of this year many things will start to happen and people need to stock up on food, water and money. What use will money be in a time of mass destruction though?

My questions to you are genuine and please dont take offense but your post was even more intriguing than many of SMs. Im sorry you have removed it but I can see why, you would have created pages of questions for sure. Do you not wish to take these questions head on though?

Ah yes you said to me that I was right in that 2012 is becoming about fear and that you would change this. This caught my eye. You had knowledge of how to turn the 2012 message around without fear and that you would put this in motion soon. Again Im sorry ifIm quoting you wrong here but without your post its hard. How will you achieve this, you have to remember maybe 80% of the world hasnt even heard about 2012 . You have a very big mission ahead of you to first educate them on 2012 and then to remove fear. We have seen most of the population are full of fear and will panic.

I think you also said you'd never had contact with any aliens. Who has given you your information then? You said you would set up a thread, are you still going to do this?

I had a dream last night, it was in full colour. It was of a large red sun burning in the middle, it had red sun spots giving off massive heat. Do I take this as an omen of 2012? No I take it as a dream from reading too much about red suns on this thread.

So comrad what can you tell me?

(Oh and I agree 100% with amigo your post to headlightone was well out of order and to me shouted EGO. No one is any better than any one else and for you to say to him you had great knowledge and were making sacrifices for man kind,however he was not and should go away and become a better person...was I think the most egotistical post Ive seen in a long time.)



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 06:16 AM
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Originally posted by smokingman2006
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You could be right as the main message I seem to get is that only we can change ourselves, Free will is good but it sometime clashes with the true mission of our energy sources (Souls) which are pre set at creation with a good and positive path but many never dig deep within themselves to become better intune with this inner guide and are brainwashed with false Gods or are corupted with modern values.

We all understand the effects of negativity in our every life yet fail to realize that the opposite positive value not only improves us as people but helps the universe at its very core.

[edit on 8-2-2009 by smokingman2006]


This is something I have also found as a message but from within myself, from looking deep within myself. No alien told me this, I discovered it within myself.

We dont need aliens to tell us this we already know it, we just need to have the courage to hear our inner most thoughts, as you say become more intune away from modern influences.

Positive thinking has an amazing effect on our lives, and it also provides great power to the universe as you say down to its very core.

This is the best post Ive seen from you in a while SM. See how much more can be said in only a few words, and how no great stories of anything is needed. Messgaes like this speak for themselves.



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 06:40 AM
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but on a lighter note is it not funny or strange that each time I put up a large post beamish does his up most to swamp it will gibbishish rabbles regardless of what time of the day or night it is.


Well, if the truth be told, I continuously ask questions that you persist in refusing to answer. If that is “swamping”, then guilty as charged.

This quote is following directly on from RussianScientists post and his insinuation that I’m working for and Intelligence Agency. More on this at the end of this post…

I assume that when you say “gibbishish”, you mean gibberish, as in nonsensical rambling? When have I ever blathered or digressed from the subject unless in answer to a direct question? Point it out to me, otherwise I’m going to take that comment in the manner it was intended; an attempt at derision. If you can’t attack the subject, attack the person.


and never reference to it.


This I’ll chalk up to your self proclaimed limited English vocabulary, as it makes little sense.


In a casino I would take all his chips he is soooo readable


Firstly, I’m really glad you can afford to frequent casinos. The life of a famous baccarat player must be hard to abandon, even if you’re an alien ambassador. And I’m readable? This from a man who produces generic contact scenarios.

To address this Agent matter; I’m pretty sure there are several adherents of yours that believe I am a real dis-info operative. Ok, please read this:

For some time now I have been employed, by various groups and concerns, and often under the auspices of my own agenda, to utilise what talent I have at my disposal to alter, even temporarily, the opinions and viewpoints of the general public.

Whilst this may not be the most lucrative job (it pays in varying degrees depending on the resource I am asked to apply to any given situation) or even the most agreeable form of service (most do not know how to react to a watered-down job description; reactions vary to an indifferent and uncomprehending ‘Oh, that’s interesting’, to, ‘Really! Tell me more!’), I have to admit that sometimes I just do what I do purely for the sense of immense satisfaction it provides. Many might, if they were acquainted with my rate of success, question my record of accomplishments in these fields, and rightly so. It is not an easy business. But any failings I encounter do not deter me from engaging in what are difficult, and sometimes uncomfortable, scenarios. In life, occasionally one has to just get on and perform tasks that one finds unnerving and unpleasant. That is what is expected of me. But once again, it does not put me off, as more often than not my superiors have been pleased with my results.

In this employ, the opinions and viewpoints I put across may well not reflect my own. Often, they go against everything I believe in, but I have to maintain them in a believable and reasonable way for the success of the assignment. Often I’ve ended up feeling physically sick and terrified, but elated, after the execution of my duties. It is not easy, believe me, to maintain a consistently credible facade whilst trying to persuade committed minds that I am something I am not, or that the concepts I ply them with are not only more enlightening than their own, but more important.

So why do I do it? I know that to take someone out of their contrived comfort zone by the power of suggestion, if only for a few minutes, can leave behind profound differences in that person’s psychological make-up. But more importantly, with each confrontational concept I represent, or impassioned presentation I offer, they become more susceptible to the efforts of others in my field. And slowly but surely, under the barrage of my efforts and of those far more skilled in these arts than I, the ingrained perspective of what humans insist they know is either altered, or at least the seeds of intellectual transformation are planted. Either way, it’s a positive result.

Do I have a conscience about this manipulative activity? No. Not at all. Someone has to do it, and I’m glad I have the opportunity.



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 07:08 AM
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Beamish I feel uneasy about your last post.you said this

In this employ, the opinions and viewpoints I put across may well not reflect my own. Often, they go against everything I believe in, but I have to maintain them in a believable and reasonable way for the success of the assignment. Often I’ve ended up feeling physically sick and terrified, but elated, after the execution of my duties. It is not easy, believe me, to maintain a consistently credible facade whilst trying to persuade committed minds that I am something I am not, or that the concepts I ply them with are not only more enlightening than their own, but more important.

So this means you admitt to getting paid to lie while acusing me of doing it for free



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 07:28 AM
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Take from the post what you will.

And where does it say, precisely, I lie for a living?



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 07:31 AM
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Your words old friend

In this employ, the opinions and viewpoints I put across may well not reflect my own. Often, they go against everything I believe in,

Please explain what you would call this, I would call you a spin-doctor



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 07:37 AM
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Have you U2U this guy?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

If this isnt fear mongering I dont know what is! Im all for free speach but honestly "reptilian queens blowing up the Earth" unbelievable .

They also told me the reptilian queens have threatened to explode the world if benevolent races from outside interfere. They told me they have the technology to blow up the entire earth and have even planted devices but they told me not to worry that if people were prepared to accept the help from the outside that they could easily stop them because there are more good out there than bad with much more advanced technology.

I have only read the OP as Im not going through 350 replies but do you chat to similar contactees on ATS? Have you thought about trying to contact similar people ? Have you been on this thread at all?

Has anyone else been on this thread?



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posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 07:51 AM
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Good afternoon Madame Green.

I never Heard of this thread before and I dont know the poster.

I dont post on many threads at all here on ATS apart from my own.

after a quick search I think david Ickie has got to this person mind.

Did you read my posting from last night asking to try and keep this thread on a positive course as the Vibe have not been good the last few day here.

Please read it and see what I said.
Regards SM



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 08:31 AM
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Originally posted by smokingman2006
[I never Heard of this thread before and I dont know the poster.

I dont post on many threads at all here on ATS apart from my own.

after a quick search I think david Ickie has got to this person mind.

Did you read my posting from last night asking to try and keep this thread on a positive course as the Vibe have not been good the last few day here.

Please read it and see what I said.
Regards SM





Youve never heard of this poster. He also has a message from the Pleiadeans in which reptile queens have placed bombs around the world and that they will detonate these if the Pleiadeans intervien. Dont you think this is of relevance to you. You dont think it important to contact others who have had messages from these aliens?

Why dont you all form like a contact group or something, that way you can help each other.

Im sorry I find it amazing that you havent spoken to other messengers on ATS when the subject is to save the world.

What post are you referring to above. I replied very positively to your recent post and if this is not of a "good vibe" then I dont know what is. Did you even read my reply to you


I had noticed that you dont post on other threads much but I didnt want to mention it. Dont you think this limits your understanding a little. Do you read other threads at all?



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 08:41 AM
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Sorry my puter went mad and then I lost this site.

As beamish correctly stated awhile back I have refused all main stream attemps to surface publicly with my encounter, I want to play it safe and see if what has been told to me becomes fact.

Before going full trot.

I read alot of threads but limit my postings and spend alot of my time thinking and sorting my inner feeling about this whole experience.
Apart from the member who U2U me I seek out no-one as I feel I must first understand myself better before talking to others who have similar stories.
Thank you for the nice coments on the Vibes posting now let me go look for the other one I did late last night calling for a peace on this thread

Found it here it is
To all the readers of this thread

Today I decided to take a little time away from this board and evaluate my commitment to this encounter I came to the decision that the hard love some of these posters are throwing my way is just part of what one can come to expect when the story is stranger than fiction.

There is no madness in my family and no royal blue blood floating through my veins.

I have kept some information and encounters of the boards but surely this is not a crime.

I too have been trying to process this information and experience to understand in which way it is best to use but there are no reference guide to use here so I have to act on judgment.

My story is off the wall and 6 month ago I too would have reacted in the very same way as some poster have if not worst.

Then again 6 month ago I would never have even come to a site such as this.

So I see both side of the argument here and can understand the anger as well.

This all said I am here to stay at least till I see for myself if what has been told to me is correct.


The name calling on this thread has to stop not only is it uncalled for it only increases the negative vibes and belittles us all.

I need no one to take my side here only read about my experience and give your honest view as to what you think in a constructive way if possible.

I am not after fame or attention quiet to opposite if you really knew me.

As for being a hoaxer what is the point? Have I ever ask for anything?

Have I ever contact any one of you posters out there by U2U first?

I shun the limelight like a vampire shuns the sunlight and I have my own reason here.( No I don't believe in Vampires)

I have only told a small potion of my total experience because I too believe that certain things should happen before I can tell the rest as some of the things I have been shown are beyond thinking about and keep me up at night.

I really hope that what has been shown to me is not part of our future and that I will be wrong.

But if it is then I will be ready to move ahead.

I will depart with a question for you all to think about
One day may it be 3 years or 3000 years this beautiful planet of ours will cease to exist either by our sun going Super Nova or some other reason.

Do you really believe that all the energy sources (soul) would vanish forever or would we all be reborn at the creation level to follow other paths and experiences perhaps even into the bodies of those we today call Aliens.

Now if we truly believe in this 3 years or 3000 years makes little difference.

Creation has the master plan and we human only have the time it has allocated for us to reach our goals if we have fallen behind in those goal then there is no-one to negotiate with for more time.

If creation feeds and grows on positive energy than you could say that at this present point in time we are in serious overdraft.
Bidding you all a good night.
SM


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posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by smokingman2006


Did you read my posting from last night asking to try and keep this thread on a positive course as the Vibe have not been good the last few day here.

Please read it and see what I said.
Regards SM





yes I have read this post, it is a different one from the one I responded positively too. However I still dont understand why me questioning if you've U2U another Pleiadean messenger is not keeping this thread on a positive course. I think this course of questioning is VERY relevant to this thread in a positive way.

I must say I find his OP unbelievable but thats not the point. The point is he is another bringer of insight from your contacts. YOUR contacts and the fact you havent even spoke to him I find hard to understand.

Can I ask you this then? Do you believe his story? Do you believe he was contacted by the same race as you? and if so why do you not speak to him?

Do you know anything about reptile queens planting devices all over the world because this is the first Ive heard of it. can you not read these words and think how unbelievable they sound?

Im NOT being negative by asking these questions. They are very valid points I am making here and if you disagree with me then Im sorry.
When I was visited by my green friend I searched endlessly to find others accounts of such beings, if Id have seen another on thread speaking of the same encounter Id have U2U them immediatly. Do you see my point here?



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 08:49 AM
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Thank you for the nice coments on the Vibes posting

Your welcome. I found it a very good post.



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 09:02 AM
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Hi again my Green friend.

I have read but never comented on this reptile so call agenda it reminds me of that TV series "V" I watched as a teenager I detect no vibes that pull me into this reptile business,

I have enough serious posters who share with me far better experience I did search the internet after my first encounter made afew contact but most wanted something in return and that to me is a turn off.



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 09:10 AM
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Originally posted by smokingman2006
Hi again my Green friend.

I have read but never comented on this reptile so call agenda it reminds me of that TV series "V" I watched as a teenager I detect no vibes that pull me into this reptile business,



yes it does indeed remind me of that series too.

So his reptile vibes dont pull you in, this I can understand, but Im still struggling with the fact his message is also from the pleiadeans. Are you saying they give different message out to different people?

I can also understand why you would need time to gather your own thoughts before speaking to others but how long can you go on with "this" alone. Dont you find you need to talk to others that have actually had contact with these beings also? If indeed they have had contacts at all.

What did the others contacts want in return from you?

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posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 09:11 AM
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While I also suspect you are paid to disinform or change opinions on threads, and see a couple of members here in particular as being the good cop/bad cop duo, which is amusing to see because on many threads there is just one that comes on, so SM's must have merited more effort, just one of my opinions, mind you.


Still, seeing this in writing, from you no less, makes me feel you're pulling everyones leg here somehow.

So which is, the truth, or an attempt at humor?

Whether this is an assignment, or a personal attempt to continually mess with the exchange of information on a thread, you must realize that in doing so you are depriving people of their basic freedom of expression, exchanging information , and analyzing more information that can be compared against their own, if they are experiencers. You do realize that, for the many who have gone through expereinces, and who are constantly ridiculed for bringing forth this information, they are actually extremely angry that there is a massive campaign to shut down this exchange of information because it has to go out in whatever means necessary, with or without proof, with testimony alone if necessary, and it has to draw together a larger group who also can testify, until people GET WHAT"S GOING ON and actually kick out their leaders who are part and parcel of the situation.

In mine, my message is, in the year of 1967(8) there were nazis working with your US cabal, (ie. these guys would have been talking to all of the presidents) and the greys, kidnapping kids and whole families and messing with them. The war ended in the 40s. If enough people become aware of how messed their political system is, we will have changes and the leaders will be removed! I'm all for that.

So, if you're not having fun at our expense right now, and making up this elaborate story, which just happens to coincide with what many have been feeling, then you are selling the human race out! This is intellectual prostitution. This is the same question I've asked myself over and over, how could all the brightest and best minds amongst us, our scientist, and specialists, people who should definately have a clue about life itself, be so willing to sell themselves out to the twisted psychos at the top, what??? for an increased salary, a more yuppie house??? How do they rationalize it, this intellectual prostitution and selling the human race out?



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