F-35 Clubbed like a baby seal by Russians and Chinese, page 2
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reply posted on 15-9-2008 @ 08:54 AM by Canada_EH
reply to post by Chadwickus



Well to be clear you talking about 1 plane that goes by 2 names

As for if it was considered or not I'm sure it would of gotten talked about in the initial requirement meetings but at that time the EU fighter/ Typhoon was in trials and the role it was being designed to play was much more A2A then A2G then the 35. But in the subsequent meetings in say the past 3 years I'm surprised it hasn't been looked at more carefully or say looking at the Gripen if they are going to be silly enough to look at single engine planes for their requirements of coastal patrol/ long range over water sorties.

Don't get me wrong I don't hate the 35 or the tech it represents but the program is the one entity that is slowly ruining the plane. My biggest gripe about the 35 is the fact its single engine and an export plane to countries that really should have twin engine planes due to the operating environment. Like the the CF, Royal Navy, RAAF


reply posted on 15-9-2008 @ 08:59 AM by Chadwickus
reply to post by Canada_EH



Ah fair enough, I thought the British or was it the French? pulled out of the development of it but continued on with basically the same design on their own.

As for the F35, from what I've heard it does have a good all round package which, for it's role is probably adequate for Australia. Besides I'm sure not all the FA18's will be phased out straight away so just in case the 35 is a real dog we'll at least have some other decent plane.

Oh yeah and we HAVE to keep the F111's even if its just for flyovers of events so they can fuel dump.

Damn thats a good sight

[edit on 15-9-2008 by Chadwickus]



reply posted on 15-9-2008 @ 09:11 AM by Canada_EH
reply to post by Chadwickus



yup the French pulled out but Italy and Germany stayed on as well as maybe 1 or 2 other that I don't recall so you could still make the claim it was a international team headed up the British still.


reply posted on 15-9-2008 @ 09:19 AM by DMTeed
reply to post by Snappahead



....America is number 2 now. Cool. Maybe we are going to start making closer relationships with the rest of the world now. Or shall we start WWIII for an economic relalighnment?


reply posted on 15-9-2008 @ 09:30 AM by Canada_EH
Originally posted by DMTeed
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post by Snappahead



....America is number 2 now.


Well if you can provide me proof and backing for a theory to prove this in context to the 35 I'd be happy to listen, but frankly you post is pointless on a aviation thread. Please try to stay on topic or if your really nice you would contribute to it.


reply posted on 15-9-2008 @ 12:17 PM by WestPoint23
reply to post by Darkpr0



If the situation called for attaining air superiority in a high risk environment then the F-35 will be configured for that role. It's really quite pointless to configure external stores, expect maybe fuel tanks which can be jettisoned with no RCS loss. In the future, we might see a configuration for six AMRAAMs, yes there is space, or stealth pods. In any case the current state stands that Sukhois and Migs will be long gone before they even get to spot an F-35. No one in the region will be able to project more then a wing of aircraft near Australia doorstep, and thats the worst case scenario. Such a deployment can be soundly handled with a mix of air to air and air to ground configured Lightnings and the rest of Australia's military systems and capabilities.


reply posted on 16-9-2008 @ 02:44 AM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by Hot_Wings

We have got better things to spend our money on like Hospitals, Education, Roads and Housing it’s about time you yanks start doing the same.


reply posted on 20-9-2008 @ 01:14 AM by C0bzz
reply to post by Midav



The exercises were secret, Burbage said, but Air Force officials told Davis that they didn’t even involve pilots "flying" simulators.

"To have somebody extrapolating that into clubbing baby seals is pure B.S.," Burbage said.

www.star-telegram.com...



ROFL @ JENSEN.



reply posted on 20-9-2008 @ 01:06 PM by C0bzz
reply to post by jimmyx



From all the posts? Did you read the thread? From all the posts the F-35 is fantastic. Why are you posting?

[edit on 20/9/2008 by C0bzz]


reply posted on 21-9-2008 @ 03:53 AM by paraphi
reply to post by C0bzz



It basically says that the JSF is overweight and problematic with a variety unresolved issues. It mentions the tests in Hawaii as a negative. However, the article suggests that so much money has been invested Denmark would not be able to pull out.

Something like that anyway.

Regards
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