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ISRAEL ASKS U.S. FOR BUNKER BUSTERS; ‘Iran renews N-arms work’

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posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 02:41 AM
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Originally posted by bodrul
reply to post by dragonridr
 


why do people automataicaly hate Jews if they hate israel?
curious



I believe my view had alot to do with this sentece in his post


They are so paranoid..And they think nothing of dragging us into there "personal troubles"...gentiles, go yum,...excuse me but,...they think you are less than them to..don't ever forget that...it is sad.


Do You take this any other way looks to me there is a hatred there huh?




posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 05:08 AM
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Regarding the Haaretz article (the website that broke this 'U.S. bunker-busters to Israel' story): some of the Hebrew was omitted from the English version; the original included:


One can evaluate that the supply of the bombs to Israel is intended to limit the [collateral] damage which civilians may suffer, in possible IDF fighting against Hezbollah in Lebanon, against Hamas in Gaza, and perhaps against Nuclear Iranian Installations [which are situated] in populated areas.


Why was this (key) part taken out of the English translation?

And it might be of importance because:

Breaking:

'Terrorists plan to kidnap Israelis in Sinai, take them to Gaza'


The Counter Terrorism Bureau on Monday warned of an immediate and concrete plot by terrorists to kidnap Israelis in Sinai and smuggle them into the Gaza Strip.

The bureau said that Hizbullah, as well as local terror groups, was involved in the plan.

(The Jerusalem Post)


Are the Israelis planning a bit of pre-emptive action of their own?

Nasrallah: No peace in Middle East as long as Israel exists



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 05:58 AM
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Breaking:

Iran holding nationwide air force exercise


The Islamic Republic Air Force and the IRGC have initiated a joint military exercise with the aim of coordinating their aerial defenses.

“A great number of air bases throughout the country, dozens of fighter planes and all aerial units of the Armed Forces are taking part in this exercise,” a senior commander of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) Air Force, Brigadier Ahmad Miqani, said on Monday.

Miqani reported that the maneuver would be held in three stages, starting with intelligence gathering and electronic warfare operations against naval battle groups of a hypothetical enemy.

The commander said the second and third stages would involve countering attacks against military systems and sites, as well as 'critical and sensitive' locations.

This is the first time that Iran's aerial forces have conducted such an extensive joint military exercise.

The maneuver, dubbed Asemane Velayat comes amid rising speculation of a possible Israeli military strike against Iran's nuclear facilities.

On Sunday, Haaretz reported that the US Department of Defense was planning to sell Israel 1,000 'bunker-buster' bombs capable of taking out fortified nuclear installations in Iran.

The Guided Bomb Unit-39 (GBU-39) is made up of highly advanced smart bombs, which have been developed to target fortified facilities deep underground.

(Press TV)


The Iranians are readying themselves for something.



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 07:11 AM
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More breaking:

IAEA report says Iran stonewalling weapons probe


Iran is still blocking attempts to investigate allegations that Teheran carried out research and experiments linked to a nuclear weapons program, said a report released Monday by the UN nuclear agency.

The International Atomic Energy Agency's report is being sent to the UN Security Council.

It also said Teheran was continuing to expand its capabilities to enrich uranium.

The report was posted on the IAEA's internal Web site Monday but was made available to The Associated Press.

Iran says it wants to enrich only to create nuclear fuel, but the process can also be used to create the fissile core of nuclear warheads.

Fears that Iran wants to create nuclear weapons have led to three sets of UN sanctions.

(The Jerusalem Post)



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 10:10 AM
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reply to post by dragonridr
 


unless you can show me where it just says Jews
and states that



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 10:26 AM
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golly gosh the editorial slant on that article is way beyond a joke:

hosted.ap.org...

try a less biased one with such gems as :

ex]To date, Iran had produced about 1,000 pounds of low enriched uranium suitable for nuclear fuel, said the report. Asked to put that figure into context, U.N. officials said Iran would need three times that amount to be begin the process of enriching to the level needed to produce a nuclear weapon



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 10:39 AM
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BREAKING - SKY TV: Iranian Ambassador to UN says Iran will continue to enrich uranium despite demands from UN Security Council.



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 10:47 AM
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That 'less biased' source also contains the gems:


VIENNA, Austria (AP) -- Iran has steadfastly blocked a U.N. investigation into allegations it tried to make nuclear arms and the probe is now deadlocked, the International Atomic Energy Agency said Monday.



Since its last report in May, "the agency ... has not been able to make any substantive progress," the IAEA report said, calling the impasse a matter of "serious concern."



Running smoothly, 3,000 centrifuges could produce enough nuclear material for a bomb within 18 months.



Additionally, Iran possesses diagrams showing how to mold uranium metal into the shape of warheads.



We can all cherry pick.



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 06:55 PM
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US tests bunker-busters for war on Iran?


The Pentagon will test new 'bunker-busting' bombs capable of obliterating underground nuclear production facilities, a report says.

One of Pentagon's highest-profile projects, according to USA Today, is the Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP) project.

MOP has developed a precision-guided 30,000-pound (13,600-kilogram) bomb built to deliver 2 tons of explosives after burrowing deep down to reach underground nuclear labs.

An Air Force spokeswoman, Vicki Stein, said the force plans to test the 20-foot-long bomb on B-52 bombers.

The deepest penetrating bunker buster currently at the disposal of the US Air Force is the Guided Bomb Unit 28 (GBU-28), a 5000-pound (2,270 kilogram) laser-guided bomb, capable of penetrating over 100 feet (30 meters) of earth or 20 feet (6 meters) of solid concrete.

An analyst told the paper that the MOP project appears to be directed at attacking Iran's nuclear enrichment facility in Natanz.

(Press TV)



posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 07:27 PM
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Been there done that, They have already made bomb bay racks in the B-2 for this bomb.

The question is, Why hasn't Israel made its own bunker buster. They almost ran out of them in the 2006 war so why not? They make just about everything else including nukes.

I hope someone takes out Iran's nuclear weapons facilities because Pakistan having them is scary enough. It should be obvious to everyone that Iran is hiding its program from the world and has secret sites well hidden from the U.N.



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 01:42 AM
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want me to google diagrams for nuclear warheads
tis not overly hard tbh

by less biased i mean the way of reporting rather than sensationalism of the first one.

notice how we are seeing `numbers` again regarding `time to the world ends mwahahaha` type stuff



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 02:52 AM
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news.bbc.co.uk...

There you go folks. Certainly puts a cap on those bleeting blindly about Irans co-operation with the IAEA. Military dimension unanswered, missing nuclear material, simultaneous rocket fusion tech....



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 03:51 AM
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Video from Haaretz:

"The Iranian Air Force General, Ahmad Miqani, confirmed that Iran signed a deal with Russia for the acquisition of the advanced S-300 anti-aircraft system."
(haaretz.com)


That would be a game-changer.



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 03:55 AM
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yellow cake can be bought anywhere - heck i could go and buy uranium rock right now if i wanted - since it can be purchased on the internet....


no iran completed the work plan , the IAEA said as much and now the USA wants a reason to bomb them - no other country in the histpry of the NPT has had to endure as much crap as Iran - look at India , not even a signatory of the NPT and yet they buy and sell nuclear material .



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 03:59 AM
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India is a peaceful country and may i add, a democracy, not a religious theocracy, everything is relative. A police man can carry gun, does that mean a convicted murderer has the right? See what im getting at?

You have basically completely ignored the content of the article, which clearly suggests Iran is hiding elements of it's "peaceful" program. This is more a reiteration than anyhting, as they have always suggested this. To regard such a report as US infiltrated is hilarious, the US isn't the only one with real concerns as to Irans intentions.

[edit on 16-9-2008 by theblunttruth]



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 11:17 AM
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Iran gives full powers to hard-line Guards in Gulf


TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran announced Tuesday that it has put the elite Revolutionary Guards in charge of defending the country's territorial Persian Gulf waters in what appeared to be a hardening of its stance in the vital oil route.

(AP)


Iran against broader cooperation with IAEA


TEHRAN (AFP) — Iran warned on Tuesday that the UN nuclear watchdog should not expect Tehran to address any claim about its nuclear activities, after a damning report on its cooperation with the agency.

"We are against offering the agency an open door once more and that they expect Iran to respond to any claim," said Alaeddin Borujerdi, the head of parliament's national security and foreign affairs commission.

(AFP)



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 02:39 PM
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IAEA info suggests Iran worked on nuclear missile


VIENNA, Austria (AP) — The U.N. nuclear monitoring agency shared new photos and documents purporting to show that Iran tried to refit its main long-distance missile to carry a nuclear payload, said diplomats who attended the meeting Tuesday.

(AP)


Iran: Friday new "5+1" meeting in Washington


(AGI) – Washington, 16 Sept – After the call for new sanctions against Iran over its nuclear programme, proposed yesterday by the United States and then by France 24 hours later, a new meeting of the so-called “5+1” has been set for Friday in Washington, that is of the five permanent members of the UN Security Council plus Germany: announced Sean McCormack, spokesman for the US State Department, who said that the six countries will discuss “the next steps to be taken” to convince Tehran to give up it uranium enrichment programme, which was not suspended, as confirmed by the IAEA, The International Atomic Energy Association. The meeting will come a few days before the summit which will take place next week in New York between US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and British, French, Russian, Chinese and German foreign ministers, before the annual opening of the ordinary session of the United Nations General Assembly. Washingto has admitted that the tension with Russia over the conflict in Georgia could make the adoption of the latest provisions “Slightly more complicated”, while China has stressed that further punitive measures will not solve the Iranian crisis.

(agi.it)

[edit on 16-9-2008 by chips]



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 03:25 PM
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you do know the events oin Kashmir right? how it has come closer to nuclear war than any other event in the last 50 years? twice?

and the USA sanctioned India less than 10 years ago - they know this well.

A for Iran - Israel has said they want them glassed - in straight talking english they said this , unlike perisan could be interpreted many ways; all this from Israel who is not a signotory to the NOT , loves to ram down everyone throats WW2 (hello there have been worse attrocities but we dont hear of them everyday) and has threatened to kill the IAEA inspectors if they go near dimona.

i really don`t like what the zionists do for the jewish people - they really don`t deserve to be sold out by there leaders this way - as its the people that will suffer in any war.


i ask you this - in the iraniraq war who used WMD`s?



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 03:34 PM
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Having nukes is very safe for us all, nothing has happened in 63 years.

www.visual-memory.co.uk...

. Prior to the first atomic bomb
tests at Los Alamos, a small group of physicists working on the
project argued against the test because they thought there was a
possibility that the detonation of the bomb might cause a chain
reaction which would destroy the entire planet. But the majority of
the physicists disagreed with them and recommended that the test be
carried out.


Followers of Tesla realized too much UV activation of the atmosphere
might generate the hidden energy.

The push to explode came from the Illuminati developers who
wanted to see results.

And yet again, seeing is believing as we believe the hitech bombs
we are shown and fancy plane maneuvers for the Japan drop.
No missile with actual nukes has been launched, too prone to
mishap. Best to use a simple method, as this hoax might point out:

I heard the most simple atomic bomb hoax of all that
the "clockwork orange" refers to the orange colored bomb core
and a clock set off the bomb.
Well it had to be tied to a parachute or time would be a wasting.

Man that is a set back for Intel.
No film footage of that secret event but plenty of the aftermath.
I think I heard this story before.

Whoever seen testing of this type of bomb drop, well of any
type for that matter. Keep it simple.

More from the hoax: All three bombs were Uranium, the simplest.

But still think Germany was way ahead in A bomb production
and 24 subs had Truman in a tizzy.
Win the war but lose the East Coast.. hey it happen 9/11/01
in a small way.
Those Illuminati are pushy.



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 04:00 PM
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Iran is also a democracy, lest we forget - some may say more so then the US considering the question marks about the 2004 election.

Let's also cast our minds back a few decades to when the shah was in power and the US sponsored a nuclear programme there, giving them reactor plans and expertise to help build it.

1957 The United States and Iran sign a civil nuclear co-operation agreement as part of the US Atoms for Peace program.

1957 The Institute of Nuclear Science, under the auspices of the Central Treaty Organization (CENTO), moves from Baghdad to Tehran, and the Shah, Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, takes a personal interest in nuclear energy.

1959 The Shah orders the establishment of a nuclear research centre at Tehran University.

1960 Iran arranges to establish a 5MW research centre at Tehran University. The United States is supplying a research reactor, it also sells Iran many hot cells.

11 February 1961 The US Joint Chiefs of Staff suggested to place nuclear weapons in Iran as part of its close links with Iran.

1964 During his visit to the United States the Shah decides to start an ambitious plan for nuclear power.

September 1967 The United States supplies 5.545kg of enriched uranium, of which 5.165kg contain fissile isotopes, to Iran for fuel in a research reactor. The United States also supplies 112kg of plutonium, of which 104kg are fissile isotopes, for use as "start-up sources for research reactor."

November 1967 The 5MWt pool-type, water-moderated research reactor supplied to Iran by GA Technologies of the United States goes critical, using 5.585kg of 93% enriched uranium supplied by the United Nuclear Corporation to the United States.

1 July 1968 Iran signs the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) on the day it is opened for signature. Iran ratifies NPT on 2 February 1970.

March 1974 The Shah announces that Iran intends to generate 23,000MWe at nuclear power plants "as soon as possible." The first reactor in Bushehr nearly completed by 1978.

11 April 1974 US State Department says the United States considers co-operation with Iran in the field of nuclear energy as an alternative means for energy production to be a suitable area for joint collaboration and co-operation. The majority of reactors are to be built by the United States.

June 1974 The Shah says that Iran will have nuclear weapons, "without a doubt and sooner than one would think." ("The Shah Meets the Press," Kayhan International)

June 1974 Atomic Energy Organization of Iran Chairman Akbar Etemad and the Shah travel to Paris, where France and Iran ratify a preliminary agreement for France to supply five 1,000MWe reactors, uranium, and a nuclear research centre to Iran.

June 1974 The United States and Iran reach a provisional agreement for the United States to supply two nuclear power reactors and enriched uranium fuel.

20 October 1974 A State Department document says the United States and Iran are preparing to negotiate an agreement that would permit the sale of nuclear reactors as well as enriched fuel "at levels desired by the Shah." The United States also notifies the Shah of their support for Iran's proposal to buy up to 25% interest in a commercial uranium enrichment plant.

November 1974 Iran signs agreements to purchase two 1200MWe pressurised water reactors (PWRs) from the German firm Kraftwerk Union (KWU) to be installed at Bushehr and two 900 MWe reactors from Framatome of France to be installed at Bandar Abbas. Under the contracts, France and Germany will provide enriched uranium for the initial loading and ten years' worth of reloads. The French reactors are to be built under license from Westinghouse of the United States.

January 1975 US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and Iranian Finance Minster Hushang Ansari sign a broad trade agreement that calls for the purchase of eight reactors valued at $6.4 billion. The US Atomic Energy Commission agrees to supply Iran with fuel for two 1,200MWe light water reactors and signs a provisional agreement to supply fuel for as many as six additional reactors with a total power capacity of 8,000MWe.

February 1979 The Islamic revolution in Iran puts an end to nuclear program.

source

What goes around comes around - usually to bite you in the ass.

The US started it all, now they want to take their ball back, cos they don't like the kid they used to play with anymore.




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