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Conspiracy of Missing Children

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posted on Jul, 14 2004 @ 12:21 PM
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Implications

When, in the wake of notorious kidnappings, parents and reporters clamor for information about the risk children face for such heinous crimes, the best answer currently available based on the data from this study is that an estimated 115 children and youth were the victims of a stereotypical kidnapping in the study year, and that the true number was somewhere between 60 and 170 (this range represents the 95-percent confidence interval around the estimate). This estimate is consistent with the Federal Bureau of Investigation's (FBI's) estimates of the number of abductions by strangers in which, because of their seriousness or duration, Federal law enforcement becomes involved (M. Heimbach, personal communication, August 22, 2002).

The larger number identified in this study, the 58,200 nonfamily abduction victims, represents an estimate of the number of child victims of crimes that meet the legal definition of abduction by a nonfamily perpetrator. Most children's nonfamily abduction episodes do not involve elements of the extremely alarming kind of crime that parents and reporters have in mind (such as a child's being killed, abducted overnight, taken long distances, held for ransom or with the intent to keep the child) when they think about a kidnapping by a stranger.

There was some kind of police contact regarding 47 percent of the nonfamily abducted children, either to report the child as missing or for other reasons. However, in 53 percent of cases, there was no police contact. Most caretakers who did not contact the police expected the child to return or did not think the episode was particularly serious, and some caretakers were never told about the episode (as revealed by the youth who were interviewed).

In 1988, NISMART1 estimated that stereotypical kidnappings numbered between 200 and 300 annually (Finkelhor, Hotaling, and Sedlak, 1990). Comparing the new NISMART2 estimates with these older estimates, people may be inclined to conclude that there has been a substantial decline in stereotypical kidnappings during the past decade. Unfortunately, such a clear-cut conclusion is not scientifically justified by the current evidence because the imprecision of the estimates and differences in the methodologies do not allow it.

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By the numbers...



The 58,000 figure is a broad, sweeping number. The REAL number of stereotypical child kidnapping is a more modest 100 to 200 cases per year.



[edit on 14-7-2004 by neomoniker]




posted on Jul, 14 2004 @ 02:37 PM
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well, it was a good thread anyway.



posted on Jul, 15 2004 @ 01:04 AM
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Sorry, but I'm still not satisfied, I can't get that saying out of my head in regards to there being 3 types of lies - lies, damn lies, and statistics. And some of the other links in this thread made for extremely disturbing reading. Also from that statistical report -




Estimate is based on an extremely small sample of cases; therefore, its precision and confidence interval are unreliable.


sorry, but it's just too glib for me & I don't buy it.



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 12:24 AM
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I'm really glad this thread is doing so well, that many people are taking an interest into this. Even if it means throwing up a few meals. This is really the only conspiracy that matters, this epidemic can be stopped but it must be understood. Many people do not want to confront this problem, but this is like the holocaust you've been informed now you must inform others.

From what I have gathered certain sections of the CIA and other agencies, or criminal interests use drugs, and sex (with child) to blackmail politicians and judges normally, into getting them to do what they want.

There are many pedophiles on high that help snuff any investigation into this beyond the local priest or teacher. They obviously have been pretty successful.. Until now. Remember almost everyone has been kept in the dark on this sick trade. If the word gets out, it is finished. There's gonna be hell to pay.

From what I've gathered the child porn/slave trade makes about an estimated 20 billion a year (These stats are from Interpol).

I believe a good start to this information is David Bannons book 'Race against Evil'. He is an ex Interpol assassin who specialised in killing, and hunting down child porn/snuff/slave traders. One particular story is his book is his team rescuing about 8 white children who had been smuggled into Thailand, and kept chained to beds in a brothel. So yes about 10% of missing kids in North America are sold into the sex trade, many more from other countries though.

Heres a link to a good article on him
ezine.kungfumagazine.com...

His website is www.davidbannon.net...

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www.helpsavekids.org... (I'd show this site to everyone, no mention of theories just fact)

This website for a Broadview of the international child sex slave trade, and how terror networks such as Bin Ladens receive their economic backbone from it. This is a very well researched with devastating insight

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Aside from that I recommend this video -CIA and Satanism (**** disturbing rating) www.propagandamatrix.com...

Or Conspiracy of Silence

www.propagandamatrix.com...


And finally, I posted allot of info on this thread at Guerrilla news Network

www.guerrillanews.com...



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 08:18 AM
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Ocelot found a pretty conspicous piece to this puzzle in the fact that the majority of missing children come from rich families. Could the price for success actually be "your firstborn" as an old saying goes? Could some of these people actually earn their riches with the exchange of a human being? It wouldn't be the first time in US history now would it? No, I don't mean all people with money. Many work their rears off for it but I know myself, and many others see people with extraordinary excess who seem to lack the sense it takes to get in out of the rain much less create a fortune.

This is like an onion, the more you peel it, the more it stinks.

Someone once told me that the meaning of life was an ever ensuing struggle between good and evil. The innocents of children , IMO, is the purest form of good we have. What better way to strike than at that? The good must protect or the evil will destroy. When it all boils down to it, things may just be that black and white with the grey areas created to obstruct the view.

To those reading this who cannot understand how precious a that innocents is, I just wanted to remind you........


you will pay.


Ah yes, but then again, you're painfully ever aware of that aren't you?



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 11:30 AM
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here's a very good website on the history of child abuse, it get's into rituals of the rich (the below is a short clipping)

Hope this helps explain it some more


www.psychohistory.com...

During the past three decades, I have spent much of my scholarly life examining primary sources such as diaries, autobiographies, doctor's reports, ethnographic reports and other documents that document what it must have felt like to have been a child--yesterday and today, in the East and the West, in literate and preliterate cultures.

In several hundred studies published by myself and my associates in The Journal of Psychohistory, we have provided extensive evidence that the history of childhood has been a nightmare from which we have only recently begun to awaken. The further back in history one goes--and the further away from the West one gets--the more massive the neglect and cruelty one finds and the more likely children are to have been killed, rejected, beaten, terrorized and sexually abused by their caretakers.

Indeed, my conclusion from a lifetime of psychohistorical study of childhood and society is that the history of humanity is founded upon the abuse of children. Just as family therapists today find that child abuse often functions to hold families together as a way of solving their emotional problems, so, too, the routine assault of children has been society's most effective way of maintaining its collective emotional homeostasis. Most historical families once practiced infanticide, erotic beating and incest. Most states sacrificed and mutilated their children to relieve the guilt of adults. Even today, we continue to arrange the daily killing, maiming, molestation and starvation of children through our social, military and economic activities. I would like to summarize here some of the evidence I have found as to why child abuse has been humanity's most powerful and most successful ritual, why it has been the cause of war and social violence, and why the eradication of child abuse and neglect is the most important social task we face today.

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Children were particularly useful as poison containers when adults felt anxious about recent or impending success. Success stirs up superego retaliation, and the sacrifice of children to appease the gods--that is, the punitive parents--was an extremely widespread guilt-reducing device. Most early states practiced child sacrifice. Typical was Carthage, where a large cemetery has been discovered called The Tophet filled with over 20,000 urns deposited there between 400 and 200 B.C. The urns contained bones of children sacrificed by their parents, who often would make a vow to kill their next child if the gods would grant them a favor--for instance, if their shipment of goods were to arrive safely in a foreign port. Some urns contain the bones of stillborn babies along with the bones of two-year-olds, indicating that if the promised child was not born alive, an older child had also to be killed to satisfy the promise. The sacrifice was accompanied by a music, wild dancing and riotous orgy, and was probably accompanied by the ritual rape of virgin girls, as it was with the Incans. Plutarch told how the priests would "cut their throats as if they were so many lambs or young birds; meanwhile the mother stood by without a tear or moan [while] the whole area before the statue was filled with a loud noise of flutes and drums..." Sacrifice, rape and genital mutilation of young girls continues to take place today in the Andean mountains, particularly to ward off the guilt coming after successful coc aine deliveries. These ceremonies, from antiquity to today, resemble closely the satanic rituals made familiar recently in the newspapers, using the infliction of rape, sexual mutilation and other horrors in order to visit upon child victims elements of the traumas of the satanists' own childhood.

That child sacrifice was carried out mainly by the rich in each of these early societies confirms my theory that it is a guilt-reducing technique. Whenever new ventures were begun, children would be sacrificed. Whenever a new building or bridge was built, a child would be buried within it as a "foundation sacrifice." Children still play at capturing a child and making it part of the bridge in "London Bridge's Falling Down." Children's bodies were particularly useful in curing disease. Whatever one's physical ills, a child could be used to "absorb" the poison that was responsible. When, for instance, one wanted to be cured of leprosy, one was supposed to kill a child and wash one's body in its blood. When one wanted to find out if a house whose previous occupants had died of plague was still infected or not, one rented some children to live in it for several weeks to see if they died--rather like the use of canaries in mines to detect poisonous gas. When one was impotent, depressed or had venereal disease, doctors prescribed having intercourse with a child. As late as the end of the nineteenth century, men who were brought into Old Bailey for having raped young girls were let go because "they believed that they were curing themselves of venereal disease." Raping virgins was particularly effective for impotence and depression; as one medical book put it, "Breaking a maiden's seal is one of the best antidotes for one's ills. Cudgeling her unceasingly, until she swoons away, is a might remedy for man's depression. It cures all impotence." And, of course, whenever a parent had a disease, they always had their children handy to absorb the poison. Thus British doctors in the nineteenth century regularly found when visiting men who had venereal disease that their children also had the same disease--on their mouths, anuses or genitals...



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 06:12 PM
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slave: have you come across anything about boy's town in your research on this? same question for anyone else who's done serious research of this actually -- has anyone fonud any ties between the boy's town youth rehabilitation organization and stuff like we're talking about on this thread?

also: is there/would you be interested in helping me compile some kinda bibliography of "required reads" and good sources of info on the whole phenomena?



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 08:45 PM
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For the Boystown information you'll want to read the Franklin Cover-up.

The Conspiracy of Silence video that was thought destroyed deals with Boystown extensively,
Watch it here

www.propagandamatrix.com...

Beyond that I get back to on a list

Right now in Portugal there is a major case taking place that is exactly the same as Boystown. Major politicians, TV celebrities, various wealthy indivuals are being tried for raping boys from a orphanage for 20 years while the police turned a blind eye. This is big news in Europe

here's an article

www.cbsnews.com...



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by EricFM
It does seem odd to me that the media only covers certain situations of kidnapping. It's also makes me think where,from the large numbers Ocelot has posted, all these children go.
I have once read from the '96 interview with Alex Christopher that all these children actually are taken to that underground base that the Denver International Airport supposedly might have.

Interview with Alex Christopher

It's always sounded a wee-bit far fetched to me but you decide.


I don't doubt that this many children could be taken a year and taken to underground bases or exploited in some way. The only part that doesn't add up to me is that wouldn't you think that some would get out and report on it? I mean if they're in an underground base. Unless it's like La Femme Nakita where they wipe out the memory and own you. 50,000 a year over 10 years would make an entire Army. Maybe they're preparing them for something.



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by Losonczy
The only part that doesn't add up to me is that wouldn't you think that some would get out and report on it? I mean if they're in an underground base. Unless it's like La Femme Nakita where they wipe out the memory and own you.


The "wiping memory" part is quite possible. Wasn't that part of what MKUltra [sp?] was about?

As for getting out & reporting on this, who knows, this thread may even develop along this direction. At least I'm glad to see that not all members here were put off by "estimates" in some statistics quoted.



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 11:28 PM
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Originally posted by Ocelot

Originally posted by SpittinCobra
I wonder whats going on, really going on.


Exactly. I mean Come on. There has to be something fishy going on here. This is a HUGE problem. Over 50 thousand children are kidnapped by strangers a year in the US!! Why is this not a HUGE story? Whats going on here. Where are all these children going?
Right, some real sick wierdo is going haywire, and making 50, 000 kids and their family pay. superly messed up.


XL5

posted on Jul, 22 2004 @ 02:29 AM
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Sorry for the one liner but, maybe its Freddy K or the MIB trying to see how kids with little outside influence grow up and turn them into the NWO warriors?



posted on Jul, 22 2004 @ 02:48 AM
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You get my first way above vote for this most neglected issue.


this thread is very



posted on Aug, 10 2004 @ 12:24 PM
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The tide is turning

check out Dr Reina Michaelson's website, www.csapp.net...


MPs and police 'in child sex network'
By Gosia Kaszubska
July 09, 2004

www.theaustralian.news.co...e...^2702,00.html

A SOPHISTICATED pedophile network involving former politicians and police has been operating in Victoria since the 70s, anti-child-abuse campaigners claimed yesterday.

Reina Michaelson, head of the Child Sexual Abuse Prevention Program, and Bravehearts founder Hetty Johnston said victims had told them of an organised child pornography and prostitution network with links to former MPs and senior police officers.

The claims a pedophile ring was operating under the protection of police came after the Victorian Ombudsman released a damning report on the conduct of four child sex abuse investigations, leading to a review of the operations of the sexual crimes squad.

Two experienced members of the squad will be investigated over their role in the abuse cases, which are being reopened.

The inquiry found the officers failed to adequately examine several child abuse allegations and concluded they may have lied under oath to investigators from the Ombudsman's office.

The Ombudsman found officers from the squad told the Education Department a teacher had been cleared of abuse allegations, despite conducting no investigation into the claims.

In a separate case, a senior detective blamed a 12-year-old girl for encouraging a man who had allegedly abused her and another officer described the victim as "a little slut".

The Ombudsman's inquiry followed complaints from Dr Michaelson, who gave a dossier of child abuse cases she claimed had been mishandled to police Chief Commissioner Christine Nixon in late 2001.

Dr Michaelson, supprted by Ms Johnston, called for the Ombudsman's confidential report to be made public, and demanded a royal commission into child sexual abuse and police corruption.

"When problems within Victoria Police are shown to have extended into the investigation of serious sex crimes against children, as has been revealed by the Ombudsman's investigation, it is time for the Victorian Government to act," she said.

Dr Michaelson, a psychologist, said she was working with victims who had witnessed police protection of pedophile rings and had allegedly suffered abuse at the hands of officers.

Ms Johnston said she had met many of the victims, who independently named "high-profile individuals" as members of the organised pedophile network, including "former elected officials".

Victoria Police Assistant Commissioner Simon Overland said he would meet Dr Michaelson to discuss her claims.

"I am aware allegations have been made in the past about police being responsible for sexual abuse, and obviously if these allegations are made they will be investigated ... I don't care who the perpetrator is, I don't care if it's a police officer," Mr Overland said.

A spokesman for the Bracks Government said anyone with concerns about the conduct of any investigation was "encouraged to refer that matter to the Ombudsman".

Deputy Ombudsman Bob Seamer said the report could not be made public or tabled in parliament because it might identify victims of abuse.



posted on Aug, 14 2004 @ 01:20 PM
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its awful that statistics like this are kept away from the public eye. instead of trying to cover up the problem why dont they bring it out and make people more aware of the dangers children face.



posted on Aug, 15 2004 @ 12:30 AM
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Thanks for the update on child abuse in Australia, slave. I wish I were as confident as you that the tide is turning though. Nothing seems to have changed much since the damning evidence in the 1999 Commission into the New South Wales Police Force - a link to which I provided on the previous page of this topic. There have been many disturbing & IMO, valuable links posted throughout this whole thread.

I can't answer your question, Miss_Blonde. Maybe some of the stories here beggar belief. Maybe people only become aware when it happens within their own families - plus the news of a missing child eventually isn't "newsworthy" after a while. All I know is that this has been a nightmare topic to me since I joined ATS.



posted on Aug, 15 2004 @ 03:47 AM
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Originally posted by Ocelot

Originally posted by SpittinCobra
I wonder whats going on, really going on.


Exactly. I mean Come on. There has to be something fishy going on here. This is a HUGE problem. Over 50 thousand children are kidnapped by strangers a year in the US!! Why is this not a HUGE story? Whats going on here. Where are all these children going?


To Michael Jackson's Home.



posted on Aug, 15 2004 @ 06:05 AM
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This is pretty disturbing
where do the people go
I live in Tasmania (AUS) and the other week they released a number on people go missing 170. the states pop is around 400000.

Man info you guys are giving is the most creepiest thing ive heard. i couldnt imagine if this happened to my nephew.
id be like rambo in one of his movies.

[edit on 15-8-2004 by Die Trying]



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 02:41 PM
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could scenarios like this one be where some of the missing children are :

Seven Texas Children found in Nigerian Orphanage:

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by TACHYON
To Michael Jackson's Home.


LMAO!!!
Oh man that's just wrong.....




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