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reply posted on 7-4-2004 @ 04:46 PM by Ocelot
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*U.S. News & World Report*,
Dec. 27, 1993/Jan 3. 1994
Through a glass, very darkly Cops, spies and a very odd investigation
The case is almost seven years old now, but matters surrounding a mysterious group known as the Finders keep growing curiouser and curiouser.
In early February 1987, an anonymous tipster in Tallahasse, Fla, made a phone call to police. Two "well dressed men" seemed to be "supervising"
six dishevelled and hungry children in a local park, the caller said. The cops went after the case like bloodhounds, at least at first. The two men
were identified as members of the Finders. They were charged with child abuse in Florida. In Washington, D.C. police and U.S. Customs Service agents
raided a duplex apartment building and a warehouse connected to the group. Among the evidence seized - detailed instructions on obtaining children for
unknown purposes and several photographs of nude children.
According to a Customs Service memorandum obtained by U.S. News, one photo appeared "to accent the child's genitals". The more the police learned
about the Finders, the more bizarre they seemed: There were suggestions of child abuse, Satanism, dealing in pornography and ritualistic animal
slaughter.
None of the allegations was ever proved, however. The child abuse charges against the two men in Tallahassee were dropped; all six of the children
were eventually returned to their mothers, though in the case of two, conditions were attached by a court. In Washington, D.C. police began backing
away from the Finders investigation. The groups practices, the police said, were eccentric - not illegal.
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reply posted on 7-4-2004 @ 05:00 PM by watcheroftheskies
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isnt it strange Ocelot that the D.C police backed off the finders and found them to be only eccentric...?
im of a age when i remember that in the late 80's and early 90's there was a lot of debunking about the fact that there was no satanic cults
involved in any of theese child abductions and it was all just rumors...
i have always doubted that as i have personally had run ins with satanists and with the help of others ran them out of my home town....and ive had
trouble follow me ever since !!!
Im telling you man this garbage gos right to the highest levels and the energy given off by the sacrafice of children and thru using them in certain
sexual ritual practices is of high value to theese people....just do some studying of Alister Crowley and youll see why theese children are so coveted
by theese creatures!!!
i dont want to call them humans
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reply posted on 7-4-2004 @ 05:00 PM by razorbackhater
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i don't like this thread, not because it's bad, it just really bothers me because i work with at risk kids and i have children of my own.
something i'm starting to look into is dhs and foster parents, there seems to be some unbelieveable stuff going on here, check my link on my
signature mikehuckabee.
outside of children how many people simply vanish every year? i have heard 250 thousand but damn that's a lot people.
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reply posted on 7-4-2004 @ 05:05 PM by watcheroftheskies
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your damn right razorback hater ...what about all theese people that disapear also.....and people dont think there isnt any plausability to the
government being linked to malefic entities from a 4th dimension just better consider what could be going on under our noses is far more than some
random perverts doing this!!!
it could make the holocaust look like a date with little mary sunshine.
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reply posted on 7-4-2004 @ 05:10 PM by Ocelot
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Originally posted by razorbackhater
i don't like this thread, not because it's bad, it just really bothers me because i work with at risk kids and i have children of my own.
something i'm starting to look into is dhs and foster parents, there seems to be some unbelieveable stuff going on here, check my link on my
signature mikehuckabee.
outside of children how many people simply vanish every year? i have heard 250 thousand but damn that's a lot people. 
I know this thread and its subject matter may make some of you uncomfortable. Hell it even makes me uncomfortable. But this is something we need to
talk about and get in the open.
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reply posted on 7-4-2004 @ 05:13 PM by Ocelot
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Originally posted by watcheroftheskies
i have always doubted that as i have personally had run ins with satanists and with the help of others ran them out of my home town....and ive had
trouble follow me ever since !!!
Im telling you man this garbage gos right to the highest levels and the energy given off by the sacrafice of children and thru using them in certain
sexual ritual practices is of high value to theese people....just do some studying of Alister Crowley and youll see why theese children are so coveted
by theese creatures!!!
i dont want to call them humans

Ive been doing some research on this after a member mentioned this possible angle. Satanic Ritual Abuse in children is something that happens all too
often. It may not account for all the child abductions but it certainly may be a factor. This is one of the most important issues that warrants
further discussion. Not only here on ATS but in the media in general. But the media wont touch this story with a 10ft pole.
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reply posted on 7-4-2004 @ 05:20 PM by razorbackhater
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on the other link in my signature for frankly speaking there were on there this morning talking about all the f up's by arkansas dhs, very disturbing
to hear that show this morning, i don't like people messing with kids
why isn't this being reported by the news outlets, i'm sure it has some deep roots because someone sure does a damn good job of keeping it hush hush
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reply posted on 7-4-2004 @ 05:23 PM by watcheroftheskies
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That previous angle that you mention i believe was me if you refer to the previous page you will find my reply to your original posting here a couple
of weeks ago...
Theese people you mention in your article that belonged to this group if you were to track there steps i think you would be quite surprised or may be
not....where they led to...maybe right to the highest levels of government......
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reply posted on 7-4-2004 @ 05:27 PM by Ocelot
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Originally posted by watcheroftheskies
Theese people you mention in your article that belonged to this group if you were to track there steps i think you would be quite surprised or may be
not....where they led to...maybe right to the highest levels of government...... 
Ive read about these so called rituals performed by people in power. Bohemian Grove comes to mind. I think there is something to the whole government
involvement angle you presented. That would explain why the media wont even touch this story in the first place.
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reply posted on 7-4-2004 @ 05:29 PM by Ocelot
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Originally posted by razorbackhater
why isn't this being reported by the news outlets, i'm sure it has some deep roots because someone sure does a damn good job of keeping it hush hush

Exactly. But for what purpose I wonder. I've seen many theories presented on this thread and certainly some of them may explain why everything is
being kept so quiet. Possible government involment? Federal agencies may be complicit (CIA,FBI, etc...)
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reply posted on 7-4-2004 @ 05:33 PM by Ocelot
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Another Possible Theory?
THE UFO COVER-UP
Quote from the article:
"Whatever the answer, these facts are indisputable. The extent and number of persons reported missing every year is a closely guarded government
secret. Since 1980, at least 20,000 children have been reported missing each year. Cattle mutilations (over 14,000 since 1973) are regarded
officially by the government as a "hoax". Human abductions are officially regarded by the government as a "hoax". The latest polls show that 88%
of all Americans believe that intelligent life on other planets is probable and that over 20 million Americans have seen what they believed to be a
UFO. But the U. S. Government officially dismisses "flying saucers" as a "hoax". What do you think?
The UFO Cover-up
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reply posted on 7-4-2004 @ 05:38 PM by watcheroftheskies
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yup ...i think the truth is stranger than fiction here and time may prove that to be true...there are just to many things like the debunking of the
satanic ritual thing to distraction of the public on a similiar but less sinister aspect of what is going on right up to the media's avoidance of
what might really be happening to all theese people and children !!!!!
i personally believe this thing is so sinister im even lack to put it all into words because it just sounds so insane!!!!
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reply posted on 7-4-2004 @ 05:44 PM by Ocelot
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Originally posted by watcheroftheskies
i personally believe this thing is so sinister im even lack to put it all into words because it just sounds so insane!!!! 
Like you said. Truth is always stranger than fiction. I firmly believe that it applies to almost anything.
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reply posted on 13-4-2004 @ 06:56 AM by cloud
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sometimes truth is stranger than fiction
 bad religion- "stranger than fiction"
perhaps they were not the ones to use that phrase first, but i did enjoy how they put it into song...anyway, this is for those that subscribe to the
theory of covert alien control...it does involve the satanic ritual child sex abuse, child sex trafficking rings, and sacrifices by the reptilians and
draconians  .
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reply posted on 15-4-2004 @ 02:05 PM by Ocelot
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THE MONTAUK PROJECT and Missing people
While doing some more reading I found this article that mentions people being kidnapped to be used in the project.
In order to explore the worlds beyond the time tunnels, the Montauk researchers kidnapped large numbers of the homeless as guinea pigs. They would
spend some time (about a week) getting them ready for the trip and then send them though. If they returned, they were expected to make a full report
of what they saw. Unfortunately many didn't. This was why the project used the homeless, since they knew no one would notice if these sorts of people
went missing.
The project also used a large number of children in these experiments. These children were exclusively male, between the ages of 10 and 16, tall,
blond, blue eyed and fair-skinned. Most (if not all) fit the idea of the Aryan stereotype. The exact purpose of these children is unknown, although
all of them were initially sent to the year 6037 AD to investigate a ruined city. There, they had to examine the statue of a horse and report back on
what they saw. After that, the children were sent of on others missions, but it is unknown if any ever returned. It was later discovered that the
project was connected with some sort of NeoNazi organization and that the children were recruited to serve this group.
PHOENIX II
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reply posted on 17-4-2004 @ 10:03 AM by SpittinCobra
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I had found an older thread that I thought might shed some light on this.
Just wanted to make sure Ocelot seen this see what he thought.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
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reply posted on 19-4-2004 @ 07:13 PM by Agent47
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This thread is truly worth its ranking.
Someone should dig up more info on this Finders group..........
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reply posted on 19-4-2004 @ 08:14 PM by Ocelot
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I cant believe this. Well actually I can.
North Korean Intelligence Abducting children to be trained to be intelligence operatives. This is beyond disturbing if true.
I think there is some truth too it. Its one of the theories ive been thinking about for a while.
Im going to follow up on this and see what I can find.
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reply posted on 19-4-2004 @ 08:21 PM by Ocelot
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Originally posted by Agent47
This thread is truly worth its ranking.
Someone should dig up more info on this Finders group.......... 
On it. If you find any info that might be important to the thread please post it. I would really appreciate it.
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reply posted on 19-4-2004 @ 09:36 PM by Ocelot
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Links to NK Child Abductions
North Korea Accused Of Using MK- Ultra 'Sleeper Agents'
North Korea has been engaged for the past twenty years in a world-wide abduction program of young women - who are used to produce "sleeper
agents."
As many as 60 girls have been kidnapped from Europe by intelligence officers working for North Korea's repressive regime.
The staggering story of the program was revealed this week in a Japanese court.
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