Those statistics are misleading as they don't mention how many disappear for good - my guess probably less then .01% of the total.

As a matter of fact statistics like that are what I would classify as disinformation.

The truth is most children that probably end up dead or as sex slaves are sold by their own families and or are created groups that have kids just for the purpose of using them to further their objectives.




[Edited on 21-3-2004 by outsider]

Originally posted by DaRAGE
Thats a huge number of children going missing....

58200/365 days of the year = 159.45 children go missing every day...That's just in the USA alone. By non family members.... Extraordinary....

58200...children...a year..... You can fill up a stadium with that amount of children....

1000 children gone in less than 1 week.

Cmon that is just a gigantic number.

Something weird as to be going on....

And it's not being covered either...

I just did the math and that's one child gone about every 15 minutes!!! If I was a kid, I'd be pretty scared!

Originally posted by SpittinCobra
I wonder whats going on, really going on.

I watched a special on Dateline NBC that talked about one guy in one of the north-eastern states who had abducted atleast 6 girls over the course of about 20 years (they only knew about 6), and he had drugged these girls, snatching them off the streets when they'd strayed from their friends, and kept them in some makeshift dungeon he'd built in his basement. He would keep each girl for quite a few years at a time.

The strange thing, was that he told these girls that he was "given orders by his superiors", which he claimed were "men with power" in the community-- and the Dateline guy made it sound like they were judges and policemen.

He made these girls his sex-slaves, and promised them that if they got free and told anyone, that he or his superiors would find them and kill everyone they cared about. All of the girls were eventually released.
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In a separate story, i believe there was a set of clips I'd downloaded (I believe I'd got them from infowars.com), which spoke about some HUGE boy's home (for runaways and orphans) in the south that was either accused or confirmed to be like a whorehouse for men with power. I don't think I watched the entire thing, but if anyone else has, please lend a hand and let me know what you know.

[Edited on 20-3-2004 by Cappa]

I've been reading the thread and boy I'll tell you what, that is a HUGE number! I am very suprised. As far as the conspiracy theory goes, I'm going to have to go with the theory of military and government research.

It would make sense for the government to abduct children for use in experiments such as genetic research, psychotronics, etc. They would have to keep a very low profile doing this, however, and it would be extremely difficult to abduct all of these children without slipping up, you know?

Mr. M

Originally posted by clearmind
WOW that is a huge number of kids. funny that you never hear about the numbers before..hmmmmmmmif if you give any credibility to things the the montauk project stuff, they said that they used something like 10,000 kids for thier experiment....i always thought that a number like that was totaly out of the question but now.............

the montauk thing was what I was thinking about, too. there are too many subtle hints in the media and in real life about that area of new jersey that make me think that the facility in montauck never did exist. also, a lot of weird kids seem to originate from new jersey. a coincidence? there rarely is such a thing.

think about it. who would really be perverse enough to abduct a child (without any kind of psychological or emotional basis) to subject them to mind control experiments, other than those in mind control experiments themselves?

Ocelot, I usually disagree with a lot of your postings but this one takes real cahonies.
So I am voting for you. Next to the War on Terror, this subject is a very nervous number
two. Of all the various topics I read in this site, this topic is the least conspiratoral and
the closest to reality. It is also the most frightening. Over the last 20 years, the world
traffic in pornography and sex slaves is matched only by drug trafficing, and similiarly
for the illicit profit thereof. It isn't getting better, and the corruption associated with this
can be easily seen by the way the media as a whole rarely touches this, and drops it
like a hot potatoe. When the FBI makes a "sex-ring" bust, the press will almost always
ignore the story. My link to a newspaper in New Jersey, same topic, lasted about two
days. Story gone, no archive.

But the story source data is:

America’s Dark Side: Sexual Trafficking of Women
John W. Whitehead
03/08/2004

Another is : “The Girls Next Door,” New York Times Magazine, January 25, 2004

What is being done about this horrendous problem? Though you hate Bush, he is the only World Leader
trying to take a crack at it. President Bush, in a speech before the United Nations General Assembly
last September, called sex trafficking “a special evil.” The problem is that the thrust of the president’s
U.N. speech and the scope of laws that presently address the problem are not adequate, and willing allies
in such a battle have yet to show up. And you wont see this in the news.
If you desired to make a lasting contribution to humanity, this is the area. Likewise, if there
was ever a topic on ATS that could get you really hurt, this is it. But the "government",
FBI, CIA are not the enemy here. In fact, the CIA does not have accurate estimates either :
quote from first reference above: "According to the CIA, between 18,000 and 30,000
women are trafficked annually ( America)" To get better data would probably cost the CIA more "resources" than
it has already lost. This also may be only the tip of the iceburg. Numbers for South America,
Europe, Middle East, and Asia may be astronomical.

The articles I have referenced will make you sick .
Sample quote: “Andrea told me that she and the other children she was held with were
frequently beaten to keep them off-balance and obedient. Sometimes they were
videotaped while being forced to have sex with adults or one another.
Often, she said, she was asked to play roles: the therapist patient or the obedient
daughter. Her cell of sex traffickers offered three age ranges of sex partners
- toddler to age 4, 5 to 12 and teens-as well as what she called a ‘damage group.’
‘In the damage group, they can hit you or do anything they want to,’ she explained.
‘Though sex always hurts when you are little, so it’s always violent, everything
was much more painful once you were placed in the damage group.’”

I will leave out the depraved sections such as how they trained
toddlers to have oral sex. (I am not easy to anger and these articles make we want to
commit cold blooded murder on the rabid inhuman beasts that would do this to children.)

If we are not made aware of the problem and told how we can help, not only are we
helpless but so are the thousands of youth who are sex slaves for the pimps and their depraved users.

Thanks for the public service Ocelot. And welcome to a very dangerous environment. You are looking at a place
that has no rules. Only greed.


/\/ight\/\/ing

Only reason I hadn't yet started this topic myself was because of the research so far was coming up with many different numbers and stats.

I've noticed this exact same thing though and I do have some theories myself. Some more probable than others of course. So far, the numbers most of you have been reporting sound about right in comparison to what I found as well. There were a few more details however which must be taken into account.

58,000 approx. anually sounds about right from what I remember. Some of the best statistics I found actually came from sources like John Walsh(sp?) ya know the Most Wanted Guy that hosts the show. He lost his Son years back which started him on this whole 'Catch the Bad Guys' thing. He did some work investigating the HUGE number of child kidnappings to find out what the hell was going on.

(This info is off the top of my head, so don't rely too much on it just yet. I'll verify what I can and write up another post with more accurate numbers later.)

What he found was, using that 58,000 for example:
58,000 approx. total children kidnapped anually. Out of those 58,000 roughly 80% (I think) turned up either Alive or Dead, but were found in some way, and case closed. However, there was still about 20%(again don't trust this exactly just yet) of the cases, anually, left totally unsolved, most of which stay that way from that point on. That is still about 10,000 kids every year that end up never being found, either dead or alive. Simply vanished. HOLY MISSING KIDDIES BATMAN!!! That is like a small town/city every year of kids that just completely vanish.

Like others have stated, many are used in Sex Rings and sick sh*t like that. However, another theory of mine that I wonder about is, I wonder if some section of the shadow government is using some, and how many, for things like, Medical Experiments, Cloning Research, Weapons or Military Experiments, and even possibly in creating some kind of Emotionless, Drone like Army, probably housed in all these underground bases, for use in the final 'Check Mate' of their NWO takeover. Like I said, it's just one of many theories, so try and resist comments dealing with me being a paranoid looney and stuff please...

Art Bell Just happened to have someone on the show tonight who worked for Interpol. This guy said about 10% of American children kidnapped are shipped overseas for sex and sold each at about $30,000. Horrible.

[Edited on 21-3-2004 by EricFM]

Originally posted by nightwing
Ocelot, I usually disagree with a lot of your postings but this one takes real cahonies.
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Thanks for the public service Ocelot. And welcome to a very dangerous environment. You are looking at a place
that has no rules. Only greed.

I thank you for your coments. This is a huge problem that needs some serious discussion. The quotes from the articles you posted are beyond disturbing. How a human being can do that to a child fills my heart with rage and anger.

But I think the "sex slavery" angle is only one of many we could cover in this thread. So I want to get everyone's input on this.

Another angle I think worth mentioning is the following. I remember reading somewhere (dont remember where) that the gov/military indusrial complex monitors all new births in the US and obtains DNA data that is usually kept by hospitals. They screen this data and identify a select few children that have something "special". Maybe they've identified a proccess in which they can determine which children are "gifted". These children are "taken" when they're very young from their families for use in secret government research projects. I want to explore this angle a little more so if anyone can do some diggin and find somemore info on this I would appreciate it.

Originally posted by mOjOm
Like I said, it's just one of many theories, so try and resist comments dealing with me being a paranoid looney and stuff please...

No please, do comment. I want to hear everyone's different takes on this. What do you think is going on? And if you can provide links for reading material even better. We need to get to the bottom of this.

I think this would be something to be futher investagated, although 10,000 seems a bit more reasonable if you consider there are about 300,000,000 people in the USA. I doubt the Government experiments angle for no other reason than it would be WAY easier to buy the kids overseas than to kidnap them here, but I dont rule it out.

I think this would make an excelent group project and I would even help myself.

Here a few questions off the top of my head

1. How many childern are REALLY just disappering?
2. Could this be tied into the cathalic church?
3. What is happining to those that disappear?
And we need to be sure on this one not just assume that they are being fed to the Shape-Shifting Reptiles in their underground base.
4.Who is involved? Again something that we need proof on not internet rumors.
5.What can we do about it? Because I dont know about the rest of you but I would.

There is a lot more questions than this but we might want to talk privetly on some of it. Any one can U2U me if they are interested

[Edited on 21-3-2004 by Amuk]

we all remember operation paperclip, what with the US bringing over Nazi scientists before/during/after the war. Could this possibly be just a continuation of their experiements they were doing on the children there? There are aritcles in particular which state they were particular of twins and children.

Originally posted by Grommer
we all remember operation paperclip, what with the US bringing over Nazi scientists before/during/after the war. Could this possibly be just a continuation of their experiements they were doing on the children there? There are aritcles in particular which state they were particular of twins and children.

Do you have any links you could post that could provide some more info on your theory?

Don't you think that one child missing is one child too many?

Get mad, get very very mad, then get over it and find just the facts where possible.

Personally, I would like to see inside some tunnels, I think alot can be hidden in tunnels.

Originally posted by FieryIce1
Personally, I would like to see inside some tunnels, I think alot can be hidden in tunnels.

Tunnels? Please Explain.

it all comes down to this...
these raving psycotics who run this country are having their way with these children...grotesque stories have surfaced about massive rapings that occur with world leaders while snorting up all the cocain they could handle...churches are the sme way, trust me, ive been forced to do things in christian/catholic schools that no one thaught possible, im not afraid to let this type of information out...its already out anyway, look at the mass molestation cases in the church the past few years...then your parents or therapists think you are crazy and give you medication to make you happy, but rally destroying your sanity.
this HAS to stop.