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McCain Camp Defends Palin Book-Banning Questions

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posted on Sep, 12 2008 @ 05:13 PM
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McCain Camp Defends Palin Book-Banning Questions


elections.foxnews.com

The McCain campaign is defending Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s much-criticized questions to her hometown librarian about book banning, saying the query was only hypothetical.

Shortly after taking office in 1996 as mayor of Wasilla, a city of about 7,000 people, Palin asked the city’s head librarian about banning books. Later, the librarian was notified by Palin that she was being fired, although Palin backed off under pressure.
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posted on Sep, 12 2008 @ 05:13 PM
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This should be in political news but the submission forms for political and general news aren't working ...Mods?



Taylor Griffin, a spokesman for the McCain campaign, said Thursday that Palin asked the head librarian, Mary Ellen Emmons, on three occasions how she would react to attempts at banning books. He said the questions, in the fall of 1996, were hypothetical and entirely appropriate. He said a patron had asked the library to remove a title the year before and the mayor wanted to understand how such disputes were handled.

Records on the city’s Web site, however, do not show any books were challenged in Wasilla in the 10 years before Palin took office.

Palin notified Emmons she would be fired in January 1997 because the mayor didn’t feel she had the librarian’s “full support.” Emmons was reinstated the next day after public outcry, according to newspaper reports at the time.


I'm getting the distinct impression that this woman is quite the ramrod. I won't say any more..



elections.foxnews.com
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posted on Sep, 13 2008 @ 05:28 AM
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Nobody concerned about the allegation that a vice presidential candidate attempted to abuse her power to have books banned from a public library? I guess we deserve whatever we get then...



posted on Sep, 13 2008 @ 05:32 AM
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www.snopes.com...


This was debunked someplace already.

one liner sorry


[edit on 9/13/2008 by DarkStormCrow]



posted on Sep, 13 2008 @ 05:40 AM
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That's only claiming the 'list' of books she wanted banned is false, not the claim that she wanted 'some' books banned. The story is real, the source is Fox News.



posted on Sep, 13 2008 @ 05:49 AM
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Sliming Palin

Maybe this will be good enough for you, otherwise let the slandering continue...



posted on Sep, 13 2008 @ 05:55 AM
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Again, that article doesn't address this issue only the incidentals surrounding it. There's no doubt the list of books is a fabrication, the claims are that the librarian was approached about banning books on several occasions by Palin and when it was made clear that the librarian wouldn't remove books, she was fired - then reinstated after a public protest. Neither of your links disprove that claim.



posted on Sep, 13 2008 @ 06:00 AM
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From th link above



One accusation claims then-Mayor Palin threatened to fire Wasilla’s librarian for refusing to ban books from the town library. Some versions of the rumor come complete with a list of the books that Palin allegedly attempted to ban. Actually, Palin never asked that books be banned; no books were actually banned; and many of the books on the list that Palin supposedly wanted to censor weren't even in print at the time, proving that the list is a fabrication. The librarian was fired, but was told only that Palin felt she didn’t support her. She was re-hired the next day. The librarian never claimed that Palin threatened outright to fire her for refusing to ban books.



It’s true that Palin did raise the issue with Mary Ellen Emmons, Wasilla’s librarian, on at least two occasions, three in some versions. Emmons flatly stated her opposition each time. But, as the Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman (Wasilla’s local paper) reported at the time, Palin asked general questions about what Emmons would say if Palin requested that a book be banned. According to Emmons, Palin "was asking me how I would deal with her saying a book can't be in the library." Emmons reported that Palin pressed the issue, asking whether Emmons' position would change if residents were picketing the library. Wasilla resident Anne Kilkenny, who was at the meeting, corroborates Emmons' story, telling the Chicago Tribune that "Sarah said to Mary Ellen, 'What would your response be if I asked you to remove some books from the collection?' "



Palin characterized the exchange differently, initially volunteering the episode as an example of discussions with city employees about following her administration's agenda. Palin described her questions to Emmons as “rhetorical,” noting that her questions "were asked in the context of professionalism regarding the library policy that is in place in our city." Actually, true rhetorical questions have implied answers (e.g., “Who do you think you are?”), so Palin probably meant to describe her questions as hypothetical or theoretical. We can't read minds, so it is impossible for us to know whether or not Palin may actually have wanted to ban books from the library or whether she simply wanted to know how her new employees would respond to an instruction from their boss. It is worth noting that, in an update, the Frontiersman points out that no book was ever banned from the library’s shelves.



Palin initially requested Emmons’ resignation, along with those of Wasilla’s other department heads, in October 1996. Palin described the requests as a loyalty test and allowed all of them (except one, whose department she was eliminating) to retain their positions. But in January 1997, Palin fired Emmons, along with the police chief. According to the Chicago Tribune, Palin did not list censorship as a reason for Emmons’ firing, but said she didn’t feel she had Emmons’ support. The decision caused “a stir” in the small town, according to a newspaper account at the time. According to a widely circulated e-mail from Kilkenny, “city residents rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin’s attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew her termination letter.”



As we’ve noted, Palin did not attempt to ban any library books. We don’t know if Emmons’ resistance to Palin’s questions about possible censorship had anything to do with Emmons’ firing. And we have no idea if the protests had any impact on Palin at all. There simply isn’t any evidence that we can find either way. Palin did re-hire Emmons the following day, saying that she now felt she had the librarian’s backing. Emmons continued to serve as librarian until August 1999, when the Chicago Tribune reports that she resigned.




So what about that list of books targeted for banning, which according to one widely e-mailed version was taken “from the official minutes of the Wasilla Library Board”? If it was, the library board should take up fortune telling. The list includes the first four Harry Potter books, none of which had been published at the time of the Palin-Emmons conversations. The first wasn't published until 1998. In fact, the list is a simple cut-and-paste job, snatched (complete with typos and the occasional incorrect title) from the Florida Institute of Technology library Web page, which presents the list as “Books banned at one time or another in the United States.”



Update, Sept. 9: We have revised this section dealing with accusations that Palin wanted to ban books from Wasilla's library to include more detail about what transpired at the time.



posted on Sep, 13 2008 @ 06:05 AM
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I did actually read your link, there's no need to paste it into the thread. It only confirms the Fox News article, this event did occur and Librarian was fired by Palin after refusing to ban books.



posted on Sep, 13 2008 @ 06:09 AM
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As we’ve noted, Palin did not attempt to ban any library books. We don’t know if Emmons’ resistance to Palin’s questions about possible censorship had anything to do with Emmons’ firing. And we have no idea if the protests had any impact on Palin at all. There simply isn’t any evidence that we can find either way. Palin did re-hire Emmons the following day, saying that she now felt she had the librarian’s backing. Emmons continued to serve as librarian until August 1999, when the Chicago Tribune reports that she resigned.



Read it again



posted on Sep, 13 2008 @ 06:14 AM
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Oh, right. That makes it all a hoax for you.

There's not much hope really is there?



posted on Sep, 13 2008 @ 06:32 AM
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When you read the article you linked and the article that I linked the fact becomes clear that Palin did not attempt to ban any books. Her questions about banning books were hypothetical as stated in your article. There was no list of books to ban or books that were banned.



posted on Sep, 13 2008 @ 06:42 AM
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Any public official, appointed or elected, who uses their position to bully other staff and sack them for not fully supporting their agendas should be banned from public office, simple!
From what I have seen / read so far about Mrs. Palin, she seems to be just another power crazy corrupt politician, no more, no less. So, with that in mind, she's ideally placed to become a high-stakes player in national and international politics.

Does anyone really think somebody displaying ethics, morality and a real willingness to listen to, and server the people, would ever make it into a position of power?

What we always get are the best leaders money can buy, which unfortunately means we get screwed every time.



posted on Sep, 13 2008 @ 06:44 AM
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It is regular practice in the US for an incoming chief executive to clean house upon the taking office, its as old as the political parties. Obama isnt going to be keeping Bushes cabinet for example should he win the election.



posted on Sep, 13 2008 @ 07:46 AM
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That's a little like saying Khalid Sheik Muhammed is not a terrorist because he didn't blow up the Sears Tower. Palin fired the Librarian after she refused to ban books. No books were banned because there was a huge public outcry and the Librarian was re-instated. The events are a matter of public record and even Palin isn't trying to dispute them.

Could we please now return to the intention of this thread and discuss the implications of this, since it's a valid news release carried by the mainstream media and not an attempt to 'slander' a political candidate.



posted on Sep, 13 2008 @ 07:51 AM
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And what excatly are the implications of this , do you think that if she is elected VP she is going to fire all the Librarians in the country and burn or ban books? Has she banned any books in her time as Governor of Alaska?



posted on Sep, 13 2008 @ 08:22 AM
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The banning of books is not a small issue, it has huge implications for this society with regards to the principals of democracy and free speech.

And this seems to be just one example of the kind of abuse of power that this woman has demonstrated so far. She's already being investigated for a similar offense involving a marital dispute with her sister's ex-husband, and a subpoena is being issued to Palin's husband in that investigation. There are claims that she's abusing her office and claiming executive privilege to withhold information in that case, which would be entirely inappropriate also.

I have very real concerns that a person with a history of this behavior could be nominated for the second highest office in the land, behind an aged and ailing presidential candidate. I have even bigger concerns that some people view this behavior as trivial, or somehow a good thing.



posted on Sep, 13 2008 @ 08:28 AM
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So the fact that there is a politically motivated investigation is proof of her guilt?

I guess we can toss out that pesky constitution...


You have a great weekend

Be Well Be Safe



posted on Sep, 13 2008 @ 08:32 AM
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I want to know why the Obama campaign is running an ad about the lack of John McCain's Computer skills when John McCain cannot use a keyboard because of the beatings he got in Nam.



posted on Sep, 13 2008 @ 08:32 AM
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I believe there are two Republicans and two Democrats leading the investigation and 3 votes were necessary to issue the subpoenas.

You have a good weekend too.



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