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Cults disguised as christians

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posted on Mar, 20 2004 @ 04:35 PM
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I recieved a flyer the other day from the christodelphians. Me in my ignorance i had never heard of these but as i read into this leaflet/flyer i thought it was just a new denomination. Everything appeared to be fine.

I did some research. And found they were not really christians at all only they believed in parts of the bible. But the differ quite considerably in many areas.

Firstly the trinity They believed in only one God but not three persons
Christ that he was not eternal not sinless
Holy Spirit that the holy spirit dont exist
Christs death was just an example not a sacrifice for sins
Heaven and HellThat there is neither only a futer earth for the saved
Salvationthat you must be baptised and then approved by good works (probably handing out these leaflets)

I am amazed how they can appear to be christians but venture so far from the truth. I may have generalised some areas of christodelphians but this is what i found. Do other cults behave like this?
Mormons? 7thday adventists?




posted on Mar, 20 2004 @ 04:43 PM
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Facimiles. Giving the appearance of being Christian, but leaving out key elements, and altering the rest.

There are many groups out there that are similar in that they are off enough to where the followers do not know who Christ really is, let alone accept him. That is the only Satanic goal, to prevent the human from accepting their only Savior.



posted on Mar, 20 2004 @ 04:50 PM
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The greatest trick the Devil ever did was convince the world he didn't exist... -Roger Kint



posted on Mar, 20 2004 @ 07:39 PM
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From Dictionary.com

"cult - n.

1.
a. A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
b. The followers of such a religion or sect.

2. A system or community of religious worship and ritual.

3. The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.

4. A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease.

5.
a. Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.
b. The object of such devotion.

6. An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest. "

Technically any religion is considered a cult... after all, who's to say what is right, and what is not.

The word has a bad connotation.

-Durandal



posted on Mar, 20 2004 @ 07:42 PM
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You beat me to it.

A cult is the OTHER religious fanatics group


ET3

posted on Mar, 20 2004 @ 08:34 PM
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And, They are almost as bad as evolutionists and fanatical scientists. Now there are some real cultists. For that mater, try looking at the political parties from the same view point.

Does that say enough for you Proud American?





posted on Mar, 20 2004 @ 08:45 PM
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In 1985 I met Elizabeth, a Christadelphian girl, at work and we dated for a while. She knew that I was divorced and had no problem with it. She lived in a rented house with some other women of her age who were students - all were Christdelphians. Most of her friends were very friendly people, except for one who took instant dislike to me upon finding out that I was divorced. She instantly insisted that Elizabeth dump me or she would inform the 'elders' of the church. This would result in Elizabeth being 'outcast' and her family wouldn't be allowed to have anything else to do with her.
So that was the end of us. I wouldn't have minded if we just broke up of our own accord, but to be 'ordered' to do it was annying to say the least. Needless to say, having learned more about them, I have absolutely nothing to do with them. I do feel for the people caught up with this cult, but my true animosity is reserved for their elders.



posted on Mar, 21 2004 @ 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by Durandal
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Technically any religion is considered a cult... after all, who's to say what is right, and what is not.

The word has a bad connotation.

-Durandal


I was using the word in terms many people know it as the 1st one

1.
a. A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.

Probably talking about christian based cults people whose beliefs originate from something in the bible



posted on Mar, 21 2004 @ 06:43 PM
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I personally have no problem with these "cults" as long as they don't hurt anyone (physically... moral damage does not count as there is no universal morality) if the members are happy then why try to ruin that. There is no one right religion. Like I said before, nobody can tell anyone else what is right, because nobody knows what is right.

but i wouldn't join one.

-Durandal



posted on Mar, 21 2004 @ 10:08 PM
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"Religion is the opiate of the people." - Karl Marx

The scariest thing I can think of is the human capacity to be the sheep in someone's flock. I much prefer to be the shepard. Better yet, the sheep dog - he's the one with the REAL power.



posted on Mar, 23 2004 @ 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by DeltaChaos
The greatest trick the Devil ever did was convince the world he didn't exist... -Roger Kint


Yeah the mormons look pretty much the same by the looks of it



posted on Mar, 23 2004 @ 04:02 PM
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A cult in u.s. census terms is one that does not exceed 1 million members, other wise, it would be referred too as a religion.



posted on Mar, 23 2004 @ 04:12 PM
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Y'all are calling us sheep for not being part of the current US-sponsored religion: Darwinism and athiesm. I don't really understand how we can be sheep for following our religion, and you are a free thinker for following yours...


ET3

posted on Mar, 24 2004 @ 08:11 AM
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CULT, just another name for group, only with a sinister degradation.

What worries me are the agents that come to your door disguised as religionists.



posted on Mar, 24 2004 @ 08:34 AM
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Part I - The Bible

Any one who reads the bible in modern day times must understand that the definitions of its words are over 2,000 years old. Therefore, it would be unwise to study the bible without the aid of a biblical dictionary.

Furthermore, when translating text from the original Hebrew bible, much information is lost. The NIV, KJV, and All American Standard translations are not entirely accurate.

More importantly one must study ancient Sumerian writings. The Garden of Eden was located in Sumeria not in the King James translation or any other. Early biblical writings were borrowed from ancient Sumerian clay tablets. If someone is ignorant of these ancient writings they will misinterpret the Book of Genesis entirely.
www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...


Sumeria
www.coco.cc.az.us...

"They came to earth millions of years ago to spread the poison of hatred , war and catastrophe. . . they are with us still..."
www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...

Sumerian Art




posted on Mar, 26 2004 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by project_pisces
Part I - The Bible

Any one who reads the bible in modern day times must understand that the definitions of its words are over 2,000 years old. Therefore, it would be unwise to study the bible without the aid of a biblical dictionary.


The bible still is reliable and can portray the saving message very little value has been lost.

But yes studying the newtestiment ancient greek or old testiment hebrew really does help create a picture of the authors original message.



posted on Mar, 26 2004 @ 09:46 PM
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Pisky, I can identify with that................

I once had a girlfriend that was (is) a Jehovah's Witness, while I am a pretty keen Christian myself, I found the JWs to be a bit over the top for my tastes.

However, I wondered about all this, and asked God through prayer. They are indeed very spiritual people loved by God, but it placed burdens on me I simply could not accept.

I believe there are many paths to God, and what religion you are, probably depends on what part of the world your parents originally came from.

But there are a lot of sinister fanatical sects springing up all over the place that have nothing to do with God.

Occult and satanic practices are growing at an alarming rate, and very soon I believe we are all going to have to decide which side we are on. It should be an interesting time.

We all are going to die eventually, maybe soon for some of us, and physical death is nothing to fear. Or is it ?

So beware.



posted on Mar, 26 2004 @ 10:13 PM
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warpspeed youre talking about the year 2012 when the antichrist will arrive, making the world denounce the christian religion by force. mass christians will be executed, hunted down, saved. etc. you bet its gonna be an interesting time...



posted on Dec, 9 2008 @ 06:10 AM
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Please do your research www.thisisyourbible.com



posted on Dec, 9 2008 @ 06:37 AM
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Originally posted by junglejake
Y'all are calling us sheep for not being part of the current US-sponsored religion: Darwinism and athiesm. I don't really understand how we can be sheep for following our religion, and you are a free thinker for following yours...


I think you're comparisons are unjust and a bit warped -at least there is some form of working scientific hypothesis (not to mention tangible evidence) for the idea of organic evolution.
You say that there should be a difference between an organised religion and a cult - other than the negative connotations the word brings and size of some religions-I cannot see any difference.
Both have fantastical claims but no evidence:both encourage the mindset that its members are in some way more holy,chosen,saved,superior to other non cult members and both expect the inductee to mindlessly and unquestioningly accept what they're told from others.
Objectively speaking (and free from emotive agenda) just what is the actual difference between the claims of David Koresh and the claims of the pope?




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