ATS.MIX: 96 - Aliens, UFOs, Orbs & Jesus: Dr. Miceal Ledwith former advisor to Pope John Paul, page 2
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reply posted on 15-9-2008 @ 08:24 PM by Zepherian
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You need to reread my post in the context of the replied to post. I am a catholic by birth too, agnostic by choice, and know that not all priests are homosexual predators. However, I stand by what I say, the higher you go up the hierarchy the more common it becomes. We had a sex scandal here, when one of our priests murdered a kid he had assaulted sexually. He had been brought to this region by our Bishop of the time, who is known for being a homosexual. And there are numerous examples from many other countries if I could stomach listing them.

And this structure fits into other sectors too, politicians for example. I remind people of the recent conservative sex scandals in the US. What is really happening, imho, is that a certain evil powerbrokering sector of society places these people in influence because they can indeed be controlled, via blackmail, to serve the interests of the people selecting them. A sort of unethical darwinism that puts predators and perverts in places of influence so that they can be controlled.

I however do not know what is the circumstance around the interviewee here nor was I the one that brought this unfortunate situation up. I mearly postulated that it is common in the catholic church, and indeed think it is common in other sectors of society. And I never implied that catholic priesthood = homosexual predator by default.

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reply posted on 16-9-2008 @ 06:19 PM by Zepherian
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Agreed, regardless of his background this man produced a fascinating interview that is well worth the listen. But I've already said that so I'll just take the side exit quietly and let the thread go where it may...


reply posted on 18-9-2008 @ 04:09 PM by spacebot
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He does not believe there is something hidden in the Vatican..
Yet he is not working with the Vatican anymore..
And he talked about archives, in a manner of archives been kept in probably scrolls form, meaning probably written stuff.. and thats all there is..
He also said that if they exist (he claims he doesn't know) probably is so much material that we would want so much time to process to find something meaningfull so it doesn't really matter..it also would cost a lot of money and we don't have enough people to do this..

Right..

Its all a fairytale he concludes.
Well I can pull up a page from the internet (is that simple) of the Vatican buildings and clearly recognize numerous stolen art from the Roman occupations possing as decorations on the buildings. Clearly there has to be more than just scrolls right under there.

So Doc.. bring them on the internet and let us decide!
I BET that would be more scary to the Vatican than a whole alien invasion trying to convert everybody in some star religion or something.

Lets examine stolen artifacts during the Roman era, spoils from the Roman occupation of the ancient greece.

Lets examine something that from pure luck, archeologists happened to discover. Something that has no equivalent
in its era and is a puzzling piece of technology, similar like a missing link, only that the entire chain of links is missing except that part. The antikethera mechanism which would undoubtedly had ended up
burried somewhere under Vatican if it wasn't for the Roman galleon that was carrying it to sink in the bottom of the Aegean.

Some things could clearly stand out between supposed scrols of archives. Literaly shout out telling stories, maybe stories the Vatican
does not want us to hear. Maybe stories much more interesting than aliens.
Let the Vatican bring the whole archive in to the open and we can decide ourselves.
Something tells me that stuff under there would be more interesting than the Pope himself dancing jig with a grey.

Some ex-vatican discloses about orbs and hidden life of Jesus and we supposed to believe everything he is out there to claim that exists or DOES NOT exist.
It reminds of the ex-cia guys that supposedly exposed the cia. Is Vatican now following the same "pattern" to convince?
There is a lot of "disclosure" people around nowadays, NASA, CIA, the Vatican, and that is not making me any more comfortable. On the contrary..
These guys are cooking something up.. again.

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