reply to post by canuck7500
Well, in terms of hacking.
The real hackers actually don't use the exploits themselves. All they are trying to do is make a name for themselves, prove what they are capable of,
hence, when they find a security flaw, one of the first things they do is prove it to a security company, like Nortons. Basically, they are
bragging... and rightly so.
The ones you have to look out for are the Script Kiddies. Usually in their pre-teens or early teenage years.
They look on the internet for things actual hackers have found, and try it out themselves. Only, they don't care about making a name for themselves,
because it wasn't them who discovered the flaw. So basically with the script kiddies, it becomes internet vandalism.
From the security companies standpoint, they have a limited amount of time from when the Hacker alerts them to the security flaw, to when a Script
Kiddie exploits it. Often this time line is dictated by the hacker as a test of the companies worthiness.
As a bargaining chip, security companies will often employ the hacker himself, if the security hole he found was impressive enough. His job from then
on is to purposely try to get around the security programs, and let them know how he did it.
Essentially, the Hackers support the security companies for their own gain.
This is why I think Microsoft having their independent security programs on Vista is a bad idea... most hackers hate Microsoft with a passion. Hence,
they won't be turning in all the problems they've found, the majority will be passed straight to the Script Kiddies to go do some damage with, all
out of sheer spite. (Normally hackers and script kiddies don't get along.)
Outside of this, if the security company doesn't hire the Hacker, other companies often do through less legal channels.
Essentially, competitive companies might chose to hire someone to electronically trash the rival company.
Hence, where many viruses come from. Most are simply attempts to destroy another companies database etc... the problem is, there's nothing to stop
the virus from getting out onto the internet once it's done its job destroying the other companies information.
Make no mistake, many companies indulge in Electronic Corporate Warfare.
You have to break a few rules to survive in a competitive world.
Now, software piracy... that's where it gets iffy.
It depends on what you think software is... and also what you think piracy is.
You see, many people think of software as a physical object. Once stolen, it has been taken from someone. This is a bit of a problem, as "Piracy" is
a term which depicts taking from someone... not cloning.
Many in the open source community (linux etc.) believe that software is no different from a cooking recipe. All it is, is a series of instructions for
your computer to follow, to make you (x) result.
From the open source coders point of view, you can't copyright an IF statement... nor can you copyright the concept of a LOOP command.
You also can't copyright the order it's used in.
So how can you copyright a program, if all it is, is something hundreds of other programmers have already done before you?
You can't arrest someone for making the same meal you did, nor following the same instructions.
The open source community feels strongly enough on this point that everything they write is free to use. Free to copy. Free to alter and edit. The
only difference being, that the original person who wrote the code, gets to keep his name on the recipe.
Considering the open source community is a very real threat, and is becoming an even bigger threat by the day to Microsoft and other proprietary
software companies... I'd say their novel ideas of open source software is working, wouldn't you?
When I think about software piracy, I can't help but think of "Rap Artists" going after each other for "Stealin ma beats yo"...
You mean that 'thud thud thud thud thud thud thud' noise?
That noise that's been around since humans first started hitting things and making a rhythm?
How can that possibly be copyrighted?
Same as, how can you possibly copyright an IF sequence?
The hilarious part about all of this is... Apple didn't make it's operating system, Xerox did. Apple's newest operating system X and up wasn't
made by them either... that's a modified UNIX system you're looking at.
Microsoft didn't make DOS.
Microsoft also didn't make windows, wanna know who they stole that from?
And they're trying to COPYRIGHT?!
They have no right to their own software in the first place.
Now, as for music and video piracy. That's an undecided topic for me. I think it should be up to the artist who made the music, not the company that
was SUPPOSED to be only burning the CD's and printing labels.
Yep, the recording industry was originally just supposed to take your music, and put it on Vinyl disks, and print off cardboard sheaths.
They didn't pay you... you paid them.
You had to do the rest of the work yourself, all they were was a printing press.
Since the digital age came around, the recording agencies have quickly realized they AREN'T ACTUALLY DOING ANYTHING... but their still getting
So they decided to make themselves look like they're standing up for the artists, by suing their fans who want to listen to the music.
But the artists aren't seeing much of the profit... it's all going back to the recording agencies WHO AREN'T ACTUALLY DOING ANYTHING.
So hence, it should be up to the ARTIST, not the AGENCY.
Me, I write piano pieces.
But I've always felt strongly on the idea, that people who want to listen to my music should be able to do so without fear of me attacking them
financially. And hence, my work, is free to copy, I make that very clear in the description of every file.
I wrote the music to be listened to, I'm not going to take offense to it for doing so!