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why do all of you hate america... the thread

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posted on Sep, 11 2008 @ 11:42 PM
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I love how up-to-date you are! In health care alone we are 47th in the world. Our education system is worse. Have you paid ANY attention to the truth about our standing in the world? It doesn't seem so. By all measures used world wide for quality of life Norway Finland and the Scandanavian Isles are the best place to live. Sorry you missed the news but my US, which I dearly love is ranked behind almost the entire 1st world in pretty much everything. We have more crime, murders, teen mothers, STD's, lower education, worse health, lower ability to move up in the stature, you name it most of the educated world beats us at all these except of course Religion and guns. We've got the most of them. Oh yeah, we're doing GREAT. Wake Up and smell the coffee!!




posted on Sep, 11 2008 @ 11:57 PM
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I read most of the posts, and the reasons people give for not liking America are all BS.
The people that don't like America are just resentful of America's wealth and power. All the reasons I have see here, for not liking America, apply to almost every country in the world.

I saw some posts from Australia saying it's American foreign policy, it's the environment, blablabla...
America is just more recognizable, on the world stage, that's all. Australia, just to give an example, is hated in it's backyard, it's just less visible. Australia has invaded as many countries as the USA, Australians, on a per capita basis, pollute as much as Americans...

Basically, people hate, or dislike, the USA, for one reason only...envy!!!

Every major power has to carry that burden. Britain was hated when it was a super power, so was Spain, Germany, Russia...



posted on Sep, 12 2008 @ 12:05 AM
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I won't even travel to America, that is how scared I am of their Gestapos the HSD. I don't want to disappear and be tortured for the rest of my life by psychotic American soldiers handpicked for the job. Bush authorized via John Yoo the torture-rape and mutilation of children's genitalia as a method of 'Advanced Interrogation" in front of their parents - so as to better 'persuade' the to reveal pertinent Data. It is so sick. This Truth is more horrible than anything.

I don't want to go to any country that does that. It could happen to anyone, and no one would ever know. People would just think I went missing. Nazi Germany didn't even have the courage to advertise their Evil the way NeoCon America does.

I was born in 1936 and I am from Canada. Americans are not what they once were, and that is a damn shame...and their loss is not our gain. It is our Loss.

Need Proof?

Google: Bilderberg Group
Google: Bohemian Grove
Google: NSPDD-51 - this is on the .gov websites
Google: REX- 84, RX 84 Alex Jones - also on
Google: Continuity of Government, John Warren Defense Commission -.gov
Google: John Yoo Torture Memo
Google: Patriot Act 1 & 2

[edit on 12-9-2008 by TruthTellist]



posted on Sep, 12 2008 @ 12:25 AM
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I hate all arrogant and ignorant people equally.

By the way, a case in point....North Auckland is in NEW ZEALAND.

AUSTRALIA is another country entirely...see the ignorance that is born from blindness to the bigger picture.



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posted on Sep, 12 2008 @ 12:40 AM
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Hi there, just so you know where my point of view is coming from I am an Australian living in Sydney, who has traveled to Western Europe (UK, France, Germany, Italy, Spain), SE Asia, all through Japan, Beijing and NY, Los Angeles and New Orleans.


Originally posted by scrambledeggs
i am starting this thread to see why most, but not all, people on this site have an aggression, that can be labled as hate, towards america.

An aggression, or hatred towards your current regime in power is more accurate rather than a hatred to Americans per se. You need to know the difference between the two.


Originally posted by scrambledeggsdoes america not have the highest quality of life in the world?

No it doesn't at all, although the standards are quite high of course. I rate the Japanese and French as having the highest quality of life through my experiences traveling, although I've read that countries like Switzerland and Sweden are the highest, and of course here in beautiful Australia, well it can't get any better.

But one thing that concerns me is the obesity rate which is prevalent in Western Nations. The US is known to be a nation of fatties who are one Big Mac away from having a heart attack. It is bad over here as well and England, and I assume Canada has an obesity epidemic also. In Japan you don't see fat people at all, unless they are Sumo wrestlers.
Cancer rates are low in Japan also.


Originally posted by scrambledeggswhat is so bad about this country that you have to bash it time and time again?

I think it has something to do with arrogance, and the misguided belief that America is the centre of the universe. Of course this is not the case at all in reality.


Originally posted by scrambledeggs... where you can voice your hatred for a country that has done so much for the world in so many different ways.

If you read history from an American perspective I can see how you have come to that conclusion, I don't blame you for believing it. True to an extent, America has done many great things, but on many issues they are a nuisance to the world.



posted on Sep, 12 2008 @ 12:46 AM
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Originally posted by NuclearPaul
Too many people say, "I hate America", or "Americans" and are just stereotyping. It has nothing to do with the country or the citizens, it's the leaders people really hate.


nobody likes the bully,which is how america is seen all over the world right now.

the american people are great.optimistic,outgoing and fun loving.

parasitic corporations are dictating the policies of all western governments,so the us is first in the firing line.will they realise the limits of the populations tolerance levels or head straight on into the next brawl?who knows



posted on Sep, 12 2008 @ 12:55 AM
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Originally posted by TruthTellist
I won't even travel to America, that is how scared I am of their Gestapos the HSD.

The US is the most tightly controlled police state on the planet. I pity American citizens, I really do...



posted on Sep, 12 2008 @ 12:56 AM
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There is some one that's self righteous, overweight, hypocritical, and a self proclaimed tough guy. Most people despise this guy and find him repulsing; this guy doesn't even realize he is mutually hated because he's too preoccupied with himself.

That guy is Ugly America.

[edit on 9/12/2008 by JPhish]



posted on Sep, 12 2008 @ 01:10 AM
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My father was murdered by the US funded IRA in the Birmingham pub bombings, the US funded and armed them knowing that their targets were primarily innocent people going about their day, of a so called allied country.
They have been the biggest funders of terrorism going this past 50+ years, they arm war torn countrys so the blood shed and genocide can continue.
War on terror, dont make me laugh, just stop arming, funding and training them, there job done, no need to go invading, killing thousans of inocent people while bombing the # out of their countrys whether they had anything to do with it or not.
The US are the biggest terrorists bully`s going, and you wonder why your not liked?
If 9/11 was the work of CIA trained Bin Laden you had it coming, how do you like your city/s being devastated, it was a small taste of your own medicine.
And dont get me on how you "saved our asses in WWII", you wonder why you lost less men than the rest of the allied forces? Its not because your men were bullet proof.
To fight half as long but then claim you won it almost single handed is a perfect example of the arrogance of the US, especially when you consider youve never even won a war on your own, not even agaist the tiny viet cong, you even need us to hold your hand agaist the Iraqis.
And im not even going to go into your dangerous religous veiws, like God loves America and all that nonsense, how can you keep voting in fundaMENTALIST nut jobs, the type of people who dont even believe in evolution ffs, isnt that a bit dangerous?
It make me laugh when fundamentalist christians call fundamentalist muslims evil and thats aside from the fact they pray to the same God.
And look what you do to your own people, "best standard of living" tell that to the folks of New Orleans, you should be ashamed, and you with all your wealth and power, but hay there just poor black people eh and who cares about them, not you and your every man for him self culture anyway.
It makes me feel sick when i read all to often comments like "why should my taxes go to help poor or elderly people", im not going to answer that for you because if you really need me too i`d be wasting my breath.
The arrogance and the way many American view there selves and the rest of the world often reminds me of the way the Nazi`s viewed their selves, like some kind of master race who are better than everyone else and dont think twice about calling other nations evil and killing thousands of inocent people, like dropping atom bombs on citys.
I`ll leave it there because theres just so much to cover.



posted on Sep, 12 2008 @ 01:19 AM
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I find it interesting that for every post that says "We don't hate America's people, we hate the American government," there is another poster saying "We hate Americans because they're rude/ignorant/stupid/fat/greedy/lazy/etc."

Well, which is it? Do you hate us, or our government? If you hate our government, welcome to the club. Most of us don't like it either. You are a friend. You'll get nothing but respect from me.

On the other hand... Some of you do, in fact, hate us as people. Some of you will claim you hate our government, but it's not that hard to tell which camp you're really in. And if you hate us, the people, then you can go take a long walk off a short pier. I'm not going to bicker about whether or not your hate is justified. I'm just going to give you the one finger salute and go find somebody who matters to spend my time with.

And to give an example of the kind of attitude I'm addressing with that last paragraph: Some "person" back on page 3 or so even said one reason he hates Americans is because we put food coloring in our cheese. Seriously? Fine, fair enough I guess. There's no food coloring on that pier I was talking about. Start walking, girlfriend. SALUTE!

[edit on 12-9-2008 by mattifikation]



posted on Sep, 12 2008 @ 01:31 AM
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We hate you because you are evil. One day Canadian forces will help to liberate you.

Welcome us, we are not like you. You will be safe from death and plunder. We will not rape your wives or your children, we are not like you. There will be no mercenaries.

You torture and rape children - You torture, lie and you kill innocents - when you are not tortureraping them. You sexualize your own children.... You are the scum of the earth.

Every German was a Nazi, as Every American is a Neocon. That is how it is. Get used to it.

The world has turned against you, their hatred is real and palpable - one needs only to travel abroad to witness it.

America Das Uber Alles...


[edit on 12-9-2008 by TruthTellist]



posted on Sep, 12 2008 @ 01:32 AM
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I've been on holidays with Americans on the Same Tour.
You can always Pick the Yanks, they are always the Loudest, Fattest,
most annoying and never shut up until they pass out from drinking.
Always criticizing everything and saying how good the USofA, is even more annoying.

My Favorite line from Moovies, is "You can't do that, I'm an American".
It's like they are expecting special treatment just because they were
born in USofA. But to actually hear this while on Holiday is a real hoot.
Never heard "You can't do that, I'm British".



posted on Sep, 12 2008 @ 01:38 AM
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I dont hate America, to hate America is to hate everybody that lives there, thats stereotyping, i think, borderlining racism.

I hate your Government, but having said that I hate my (UK) Goverment. I don't like the Americans who are full of themselves because they are American (we are the greatest nation, la la la), patriotism is a good thing, but i will say Americans are most likely to push that, its wrong, to quote Queen, "one world, one nation", we need that one vision, we are all human at the end of the day.

I am in a league on a game site called pogo, and a good majority of its members are American, and I love them to bits, they are great people, they don't rub America in my nose, they are just people, and thats great.

At the end of the day, if there is other life in this universe, take the Star Trek approach (not a trekkie!), we are humans, we are not Americans, British, Frogs...sorry....French, Spanish etc etc, we are human, one race with many cultures.

[edit on 12/9/08 by woogleuk]



posted on Sep, 12 2008 @ 01:48 AM
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"Us people?" Never mind. You are not worth it. Mods, feel free to delete this post.

[edit on 12-9-2008 by mattifikation]



posted on Sep, 12 2008 @ 02:31 AM
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Hell yeah man!,I always love a legal fiction that uses it's legal status over me to force me to live my life in a certain way.I love being told how much money I will make regardless of how hard I work,being penalised for my hard work in the form of income taxes,fearing for my well being because I may be wearing clothes similar to the clothes worn by someone else who was seen committing a crime a county away.
I love being fed into a legal system that is not so much a mystery to me,but will not recognize me in court unless I hire an attorney I cannot afford,and forces me into a plea bargain if I am too poor to hire a high priced lawyer,forcing me to admit to a crime I did not commit in order to avoid prison,and milking what money it can out of me in the process.....
Here in america,most people live in fear of their government without even realising it,they live in pollution and are surrounded by all manner of wierdness,...crackheads,methheads,gangbangers...they are everywhere,you would see them if you were not in your car with windows rolled up and stereo blasting,you hide in your car,it is your refuge from reality.
America is a country of ignorant sheep,most of you here at ATS are the most guilty of all,sit at your computer and talk about nothing that will change anything,as long as you are safe at home in front of your monitor,never doing anything for anyone but yourselves of any importance.
America is in trouble,the government of america is what makes it an ugly place,the ignorance of it's citizens,and fear of losing all of their material BS is what allows the government of the US to do the # it does.
A bunch of greedy scoundrels who are so self absorbed and ignorant that they are their own worst enemy,believing they are better than everyone else in the world for some reason or other,have special rights over other countries,and the right to steal resources and crap because they have some kind of horsecrap priveledge over the lesser countries in the world for some reason....bomb,burn,destroy...
Keep your windows rolled up or you might get some on you,keep your AC and stereo turned on or you might hear the truth,keep your TV turned on to guide your thoughts in an acceptable direction,and learn how to interact with each other on a meaningful,healthy basis.Go to church to learn how to be a good little consumer,and justify your ignorance and greed because it makes someone happy,get forgiven for being alive while you are at it.
Be the polite smiling little friendly fella with a gun or martial arts training to use to get his way,right or wrong.....
The correct term for am american is PEON,that is short for PEONAGE,which is a form of slavery.The masters give you enough to support your own needs,but you still are not FREE.
I hope some come to this realization before the last thought they have,just before loss of consciousness,shortly after taking their last breath,when it is too late.
You can only live in denial while you are alive.......I gotta go to work now



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posted on Sep, 12 2008 @ 06:27 AM
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I was born in europe but travelled a great deal .I spent over ten years living the american dream . I saw the best and the worst it had to offer .
I saw extreme self indulgent wealth and grinding poverty the likes of which you do not see in europe because of socialised medicine and the stronger sense of the need to provide ALL citizens with the basic rights of a civilised society .
Its a beautifull country ,the land itself ,the mountains and rivers , away from the sleazy cities like chicago ,eurgh !

But what saddened me most was the realisation that many ,though not all american men in particular are encouraged to behave like spoilt brats . In most countries ego inflation is frowned upon as unhealthy and dangerous .IN america it is positively encouraged .

Greed is still good IN the US and that will be its undoing . You get greed everywhere , but IN the US in particular it justifies just about every facet of americas brutal rutheless foriegn policy .

BUT many americans see this all to well , they know it sucks ,they know its not working .
Your country was founded by religious extremists who still practice thanksgiving so they can expiate their guilt ovet the genocide of native americans . The theft of THEIR LAND .
I was always disgusted by the way native americans are treated by White america . There is so much hypocrisy in the founding myths of the white mans conquest of the US . You all know it but you very rarely will get a white yank to speak honestly about the atrocties they commited .

denial ,shame ,guilt and insecurity .These are the founding emotions that skew americas view of itself .

An apology to the native americans and black population would be a good place to start if America is ever to set her self right and renew herself.



posted on Sep, 12 2008 @ 06:29 AM
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Originally posted by NorthWolfe CND
I read most of the posts, and the reasons people give for not liking America are all BS.
The people that don't like America are just resentful of America's wealth and power. All the reasons I have see here, for not liking America, apply to almost every country in the world.

I saw some posts from Australia saying it's American foreign policy, it's the environment, blablabla...
America is just more recognizable, on the world stage, that's all. Australia, just to give an example, is hated in it's backyard, it's just less visible. Australia has invaded as many countries as the USA, Australians, on a per capita basis, pollute as much as Americans...

Basically, people hate, or dislike, the USA, for one reason only...envy!!!

Every major power has to carry that burden. Britain was hated when it was a super power, so was Spain, Germany, Russia...


this is a 'why we hate america' thread not 'why we hate australia'


we are hated in our backyard....really?

i agree we are the worst polluters per capita though wont agree that we have invaded more countries than the usa.

ahhhh yep.....we envy the ever so powerful and strong america...pleez



posted on Sep, 12 2008 @ 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by TruthTellist
We hate you because you are evil. One day Canadian forces will help to liberate you.


Hummm, that`s funny, I`ve read where some of your own countrymen say that Canada is no better off, and has the same evil running your contry. But hey, don`t let any of us stop your rant.




Welcome us, we are not like you. You will be safe from death and plunder. We will not rape your wives or your children, we are not like you. There will be no mercenaries.



No, no thanks, we can take care of ourselves, besides, we have enough bigots in this country the way it is without you coming here adding to it. I gather your saying all the men in the US are like that, we rape our women and children? And in your country, you have no rapists? Wow, do tell.


You torture and rape children - You torture, lie and you kill innocents - when you are not tortureraping them. You sexualize your own children.... You are the scum of the earth.


I would really love to see your facts on this, if your saying all the men in the US are like this. Last time I heard, things like this happen all over the world, and I`m not saying all the men in the world do this. Yes, you are right about one thing, rapists are scum, as are bigots.


Every German was a Nazi, as Every American is a Neocon. That is how it is. Get used to it.


Humm, aren`t you being just a tad arrogant in your assumption? Please show me facts that say all people in the US are Neocons, and all every German was a Natzi.


The world has turned against you, their hatred is real and palpable - one needs only to travel abroad to witness it.

America Das Uber Alles...


I guess I`ve looked at what you are saying from all angles and I come to a conclusion. Canada has some very nice people living there, no doubt about that, but, just like the US, you have your share of the hatemongers living there also. And you have proven it to all that read this.








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posted on Sep, 12 2008 @ 08:05 AM
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LOL, sarcasm goes over your head?

Please read the post I made before that one - reply to that one.

Are you by any chance American?



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