180 lb Crossbow - Test, Assembly and Review, page 2
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reply posted on 26-1-2009 @ 02:57 PM by big gee
reply to post by WatchRider




Excellent and informative post WatchRider. I recently posted here on Crossbows and found your thread to be very helpful. Star for you



reply posted on 27-1-2009 @ 05:57 AM by WatchRider
reply to post by Anonymous ATS



The lower poundage arrows are fine for the crossbow, I've had no probs with them.



reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 10:05 AM by Actualiser
Excuse me but I signed up as I stumbled upon this thread and laughed, laughed hard I tell you, at the ignorance in the thread. I would have passed it up but to see the OP continue to pose like he knows something has me in fits.

Firstly this Taiwanese hunk of junk lies. It may say it is "180 lbs" but that big number should NOT be confused with ft/lbs energy impact, which I assure you is MUCH lower for this product. The 180 is the draw, which MUSTbe high because the limbs are not efficient.. this is no advantage. It's either that or an outside marketing gimmick lie for the rambo watching instant gratification buyer. Their website tells you, had you looked, the actual SPEED is 165 F.P.S (foot per second). This is what really matters but you haven't mentioned its FPS anywhere. When you see 180 lbs - 165 FPS is telling you one of two things; the manufacturer assumes you know nothing about crossbows and put a big number there, or that the crossbow has no efficiency. By contract my crossbow, a crossbow that is a genuine full size crossbow, the Barnett Revolution has a 150 lb draw weight.. less than yours.. but Guess what??!11 It fires at 340FPS repeatedly with fieldtips (and I actually have a chrono). For reference this FPS is over twice that of yours.

People in this thread have said crickey the OP could hunt a deer with that. WRONG. You need AT LEAST 200 FPS before you stand a chance of bleeding big game and that is an extremely conservative number. 280fps is getting there for a 6 pointer. 165 would only mildly injure a yearling What use is that? Moreover this crossbow specs state it fires a field tip 18 incher at 165 FPS.. such a bolt is useless on big game. Your crossbow therefore would FAIL with a necessary broadhead, wobbling along at around 80FPS before hitting the ground.

Next point is that the watchrider writes that the manual "imples" (as in does not say at all) that zeroing should occur at 50 - 100 yards. LOL. 50 yard is the maximum EFFECTIVE hunting range of a 350F.P.S crossbow, nevermind your toy. You wrote this nonsense about zeroing in at 100 yards to insinuate how big and strong your "180 pounds (of something)" toy is. Fail.

Also WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU DOING MASKING TAPING THAT CRAP ONTO YOUR LIMBS? Even a weak bow like yours is as risk of breaking apart when fiddled under stress. Does it come manufactured with things taped onto it? No? OK so leave it. Accessories are one thing, but if you can't actually forge real ones then leave out the DIY attempt. Especially since I can say with 100% certainty that taping that crap on is BADLY effecting what must already be low accuracy at over 10 yards.

Now the Watchrider obviously likes to prance around pretending he is ready for the SHTF.. taking photos in that urban home does not make you the expert you have made out to be. Let's get this straight.. You recieved the mail order package. You then go outside and fire at what appears to be 20 yards STRAIGHT INTO A WOODEN WALL LOL.. there goes your bolts.. Let's see, you drilled them out.. but they are SCREWED up all the same right, you didn't mention that LOL. Have you heard of a BACKSTOP? This is mine, in case you need a pointer or two;



BTW what happened to picture 3, after you had zeroed in this fine piece of equipment? No pic? Did you A) Miss the wall entirely B) Miss where you aimed thus prooving you can not zero as you have no experience but just like to use cool tactical words like clicks or C) not take the shot because you couldn't afford any more bolts?
The lesson learnt, which you won't admit, is you should do some research before buying a crossbow. And don't go for cheap. You should also prepare somewhere to shoot. And if you want to do a "test, assembly and review" then you need more than a camera, you need EXPERIENCE.. experience that is not attained by firing 2 (maybe 3) arrows into a wall on the first day.

[edit on 3-11-2009 by Actualiser]


reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 01:43 PM by colec156
reply to post by Actualiser



Coming on here and posting on this thread about someone's mistakes or lack of experience does not make you a model for survival either when the SHTF.

Yes Watchrider may of made some mistakes but instead of just sitting up there in your ivory tower, why not give him advice on what can be done to improve his x box and target etc , etc, I mean come on, you must be an expert to sit their and just laugh at someone.

I'm not here to cause an argument but I like to learn and if you have the expertise in the field of Xbow's why not start your own thread. Show us what to do and what not to do.

Regards.


reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 09:07 AM by Muckster
reply to post by Actualiser



I'm sorry to say this but for someone who is new to these forums you will soon learn that being rude and sarcastic will get you anywhere!!!

If you have a good knowledge of Crossbows that’s great... but you should try being constructive in you criticism and should not laugh at what you see as others mistakes.

I belong to a Gun club and regularly go clay shooting. Fortunately before you are allowed near a shotgun you are given training in its use and have to sit through a health and safety course (Gun Safety and Handling for Beginners) We then have registered safety officers present at all open practice shoots.

In the world of crossbows you do not get this! Anyone can buy a crossbow and then has to learn for themselves. Sure there are archery clubs were people will happily give you advice. But most people do not realise this when purchasing their first Bow.

So... cut the guy some slack... he may have got a few things wrong (which I agree with) but trying to belittle him in front of everybody serves no purpose and can often just isolate people.


To the OP... I have S + F you because i can see that you have put i lot of thought into your post and that you mean well.

However, i would strongly recommend that you find a club to join were you will find experts who are happy to share their knowledge.


reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 12:23 PM by colec156
reply to post by Actualiser



So let me get this straight.
You are very p!ssed off that the OP brought something, tried it out, posted some photo's of what he had done.
You are annoyed that the OP has little experience and instead of asking advice, he goes ahead and does what he does.

Like I said before, you are attempting to come across as some sort of x bow expert.
Ok start a thread on a cross bow and show us what you bought, how you aim, what sort of game you think you can take down with it. etc etc, If you want to feel great about someone asking advice, here I am.



reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 12:19 PM by colec156
reply to post by WatchRider



Thought so, it did seem that there must be more to the story than just a random attack on someone.
It also explains why he would not put a thread up about cross bows and what he would do...
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