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Originally posted by bknapple32
Can you please answer the main argument??? The clear statement here is as follows...
Palin, has had a big history of earmarks. (like many politicians including Obama)
McCain has had a clear history of little to no earmarks (good for him)
McCain says he will veto the first bill that comes his way with an earmark.
The argument here is not whether these earmarks are bad... Its the hypocrisy of the straight talk express.
Originally posted by jsobecky
reply to post by Bunch
Originally posted by Bunch
Receiving $197 million dollars of "pork" THIS YEAR!!! Just to satisfy her constituency but contributing to the FEDERAL BUDGET DEFICIT, so meaning we all are paying for Gov.Palin Alaka pet projects like:
-$499,900 to assess halibut harvesting
- Lighting village airports in the Alaskan bush, where small planes and gravel runways may be the primary link to the outside world.
......
Also, keeping it in context, let's look at Obama's earmarks:
The GOP ticket spent another day on the trail together and Sarah Palin again attacked Barack Obama on earmark requests. This time her hit was harder and she compared it to what she was doing to fight pork barrel spending in Alaska:
“In just three years our opponent has requested nearly one billion dollars in earmarks. That’s nearly a million dollars for every working day,” Palin told the cheering crowd, “So as we reform the abusive earmarks in our state our opponent was requesting nearly a billion dollars in earmarks as a senatorial privilege as I was vetoing half a billion as an executive responsibility.”
embeds.blogs.foxnews.com...
Nearly a million dollars a day!!
Originally posted by Bunch
What's the result of Gov. Palin love for earmarks?
As a result, Alaska this year was in such a money-flushed condition — with no state income tax or sales tax and total state revenues of $10 billion, double the previous year's — that Palin gained legislative approval for $1,200 cash payments to every Alaskan.
Wow! Returning the surplus to the people! Imagine when she is VP!
Originally posted by jamie83
Originally posted by Bunch
Alaskans lover her, while she raids the FEDERAL GOVERNENT coffins, increase our deficit and make ALL OF US pay for approval rating.
I think it works like this.
States can request whatever they want. I believe it was Obama and Biden who had to make the final decision on how to spend government money. I'm pretty sure governors don't get to raid the Federal Government "coffins."
By the way, did Obama and Biden vote to approve the earmarks Palin requested. Just curious.
Originally posted by Bunch
reply to post by jsobecky
Ok I give you the point that is not at the expense of all 49 states, just those that don't receive earmarks, good enough?
Originally posted by Bunch
In regards to the stimulus payment, of course they are entitled to it, I was just trying to make a point about the need that Gov. Paline requesting earmark money while her state has record surplus.
Originally posted by Bunch
This all comes down to Gov.Palin lying to the country in the biggest stage, in her first chance to speak to us, instead of speaking truth she lied on this issue.
Originally posted by maybereal11
Lets be accurate.....
Obama hasn't asked for any earmarks this year.
Sen. Barack Obama has missed the most votes of any Democratic presidential hopeful in the Senate over the last two months, including a vote on an Iran resolution he has blasted Sen. Hillary Clinton for supporting.
:
Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware has missed 68 percent of the votes during the same period, Sen. Christopher Dodd of Connecticut 65 percent and Clinton of New York 63 percent.
Obama's campaign points out that Biden missed the most votes if the whole year is considered, followed by Dodd, then Obama.
edition.cnn.com...
Originally posted by maybereal11
Last year, he asked for $311 million worth, about $25 for every Illinois resident. Alaska asked this year for earmarks totaling $198 million, about $295 for every Alaska citizen.
news.yahoo.com...
THAT IS TWELVE TIMES PER CAPITA the amount of earmarks than Obama requested last year and 100%/198 Million more than Obama THIS YEAR. FROM A WOMAN NOW CRITICIZING EARMARKS.
Originally posted by maybereal11
Jamie...It works like this.
A govenor get's a Senator, or in this case Palin hired the Lobbyist used by now indicted Senator Stephens, to get "earmarks" attached to important bills. Often the "earmarks" have nothing to do with the bill that they are attached to. The idea is that if you can attach it to a bill that Congress and the Senate need to pass, like a budget, you can force the money through and most senators etc. will hold their nose and sign it for the sake of passing the actual bill despite the unrelated earmarks attached.
Originally posted by jsobecky
Where did she lie?
I pledge to all Americans that I will carry myself in this spirit as vice president of the United States. This was the spirit that brought me to the governor's office, when I took on the old politics as usual in Juneau ... when I stood up to the special interests, the lobbyists, big oil companies, and the good-ol' boys network.
The Wall Street Journal reports that 18-term Rep. Don Young (R-AK) is under criminal investigation for his dealings with Alaska oil services company Veco Corp.
Name a state that does not receive earmarks.
For the 2007 federal budget year, the administration of former Gov. Frank Murkowski submitted 63 earmark requests totaling $350 million, Palin’s staff said. That slid to 52 earmarks valued at $256 million in Palin’s first year. This year, the governor’s office asked the delegation to help them land 31 earmarks valued at $197 million.
Why the gradual move away from earmarks? Palin recognized that Alaska’s coffers were overflowing with revenue from oil profits and it was almost unseemly for the state to press so aggressively for federal money, said John Katz, who heads Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s Washington, D.C., office. In December of 2007, Palin’s budget director put out a memo urging state officials who were assembling their department spending plans to reserve earmarks for compelling needs only, in an effort to “enhance the state’s credibility.”
“When she took office, we talked about the state’s reliance on federal earmarks and she made it clear for several reasons she wanted to significantly cut back on that reliance,” Katz said.
Originally posted by jsobecky
Poor examples, if your intent is to smear her.
The fishing industry is huge in Alaska.